Ozy on Buddhism

I really agree with the first sentence of White Feather in his last post, about understanding.
What you say prismatism is very true too. Introduce a notion of time in desires.
All we have got is now.
Then there is also the notion of judgment, is it good or bad? beautiful or ugly?
What you think about it will not necessarily change it...
That s all we ve got.
I m not sure we have to satisfied or disapointed about it

 

"as logic stands, you couldn't meet a man who's from the future.
but logic broke. as he appeared, he spoke about the future.
we're not gonna make it. he explained how the end will come.
you and me were never meant to be part of the future.
all we have is now. all we ever have is now."

 

I think you've really understood and taken the teachings to heart!

I especially like the comments; "we spend a lot of time living in the future. we spend now planning for later, which never comes, and our plans never work out the way we wanted."
I've always seen this to an extent , which is why i've always been hesitant to make any real solid lengthy plans about my future...If my mind is always looking into the future, how will I ever enjoy and grow in this moment? If I can never enjoy and sieze this moment, how will I ever be happy tomorrow?
I think this is a very important teaching and realisation to come too. I think Thich Nhat Hanh uses this as his core teaching in his books...But only recently have I realised how important this point is.

 

I think all our problems are because of relationship, that all desires are becaue of relationship (not "a relationship" with another, just relationship with everything.) I think that that is just the nature of Duality, that we see everything in relationship to everything else.

But as far as desires go, I have my own problems. It's one thing to see desire arising and quite another to not want to indulge in it because of the memory of my past pleasureable feelings. At that moment the idea of suffering doesn't enter into my mind, it is only after the fact.

I don't think that many healthy people desire to be sick but the pleasures that they engage in (cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, fatty foods, excessive exercising, etc., for example) do cause health problems later on. The problem is: why do people engage in these activities? Well, because of unfulfilled desires. Duh. D'oh. "Round and round she goes and where she stops nobody knows."

There is no way that a normal human does not have desires since we are born desiring the teat from the get-go. But somewhere along the line the natural desires of Man were supplanted willingly by us all with unnatural desires.

 

we were born with desire. but we were also born not knowing how to walk or talk.

i agree, our problems come from relationships. in order to experience in this world, we need to be able to relate to something else. but relating by itself doesn't make us miserable. desire, to want to have or be or know what someone else or something else does, is what causes the problem. saying you want something is saying you don't have it, which cuts you off from infinity.

"once you get the blanket thing, you can relax. because anything you could ever want or be you already have and are"

if it exists somewhere, it is already yours. if there is a beautiful person, you can be happy instead of jealous, because you're really the same. when you hear of something good happening to someone, you can be happy because good things are happening. not angry because it didn't happen to you.

for the most part, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, fatty foods, and exercising are used because people have nothing better to do with their time. if they're used for other reasons, they're mostly harmless and not addictive. a person who is really into buddhism will hopefully find healthier ways to occupy themselves.