Over 300 Proofs of God's Existance

It may appear to be faith to you, Shane, but it is reality to Kharakov. I believe it is truth, not my truth, but valid and real truth nonetheless. Just because I have not experienced it, is no reason for me to dismiss it. I have seen some pretty amazing stuff myself, and though others might call my experiences 'beliefs', they are far more than that to me, they are truths and reality to me.

 

For "truth" to be so subjective rapes the meaning of the word.

"Human beings require sleep to survive."

This a truth, anything saying opposite is false.

How can this be true for one, but not for all?

 

How can you ever know what I experience? One thing I believe is true for all is that none of us can know another persons reality.
There are people who don't sleep, I guess you have not heard that. I know a man who sleeps 2 hours a night.
truth is just like anything, it is subjective in the sense that no one can ever be totally objective.

 

2 hours a night is still sleep...

When speaking of the senses, perception of a truth is subjective there is no doubt about that.

But that does not change that things are or they are not.

Either blue is blue or it is another color.

Your perception of blue might make it seem more yellow or red than another's perception, but how does your perception actually change the nature blue which is an objective reality?

 

I have read of cases of people who do not sleep at all.
Who is to say what is and what is not? I could say something that is as true to me as the sun rising in the east, and you might scoff, and not believe me.
For example, I have had half a dozen precognitive dreams, not deja vu, not premontions, but exact pictures of the future weeks, and sometimes years in advance. That is true as can be to me, is it to you?
How could I possible prove it to you, I could not.
That is my point, just cuz something is true for you does not make it true for me. this is logical, since you are not here and i am not there, I expect us to have different realities.

I can never know if the blue you see isn't what I call red, can I?
And what of angels, or astral travel, I believe in them, and for some they are truths cuz they say they have experienced them, and I cannot prove them wrong, and can see no reason for them to lie. Do they just like being mocked?
I think not.

 

In these instances (precognition, astral travel, ect.) you could be wrong, i could be wrong, we both could be wrong due to our limited perception, but we cannot both be right.

You can say blue is red and I respond by saying blue is green. We'd both be wrong but neither of us right, for if blue were red or green one of us would be stating a truth and the other a false..

"It's truth for them..."

Whether they belive it to be true does not affect whether it is in fact true.

Take the statement: Water can be a liquid, solid, or gas.

You can take this statement and believe that none, some, or all of it is true. Yet your belief is still "yours", holding no bearing on the objective truth.

To believe that truth is subjective to your sences is slippery logic.

If the truth of reality is subject to our sences then for what reason do I have to question them? If I and 99% of the world percieve blue to be blue for what reason do I have to belive that to 1% blue is red? Our senses serve to define the objective world around us, if our sences can't be trusted there is no basis for "reality" at all.

 

i say we can both be right.

objectivity is an unattainable absolute, so it is a moot point to me.

As for others and their experiences I can only say I believe them. For my own experiences, the precognitive dreams, you either believe me or not, and it does not matter to me either way. They happened, and so for me, it is not a case of right or wrong, but becomes one of am I lying, delusional, or telling you the truth? You must choose which one you are most comfortable with, I cannot choose for they happened to me. I have had many dreams, and have never been able to tell which ones would later materialize. Very few have, but those ones were as exact as a movie or photograph, and came to pass a significant amount of time later. It is inexplicable to me, that is why I do not expect or require anyone to tell me they believe me, though it has been nice when others have, since it is so illogical.

 

How so?

If you flip a coin in the air 1,000,000,000,000 times while standing in a cornfield gravity will cause it to fall back down to the earth 1,000,000,000,000 times.

This is not unattainable.

One person can say that out of those 1,000,000,000,000 times gravity failed to work twice. Does his belief shape the reality of what did happen?

Are insane men living in a valid alternate reality or do they view an objective reality with false perceptions?

But then again, what if we are all insane and none of us view reality the same? Does that in itself change or reshape what reality is?

 

You could be wrong and I right.
You could be right and I wrong.
We could both be mistaken.
We cannot both be stating contradicting truths.

 

you are there
i am here
we are different people
in different places
living different lives
how can our realities possibly be the same?
they must be different, so must our truths.
I repeat, we can differ, and due to the above, both be right.

 

I can live in London while you live in Bangkok, yet we are both subject to the physical laws of the universe.

Many different perceptions of a reality doesn't change that reality.

You believe to have had precognitive dreams and i have no reason to doubt that you have.

But, the fact that there exists the possiblity that you are lying or delusional says in itself that there exists truth and fiction, real and unreal.

Therefore what you are stating could be truth or it could be false, but it cannot be both.