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    Osho – Only by giving do you become the possessor. If you cannot give, then you are not in possession
    Osho on Possession

    Osho – Whenever you are unable to share, whenever you are unable to practise charity, note down — you must be poor. You may have much in the eyes of others, but deep down you must be poor if you cannot share. You possess only that which you can give. Only by giving do you become the possessor. If you cannot give, then you are not in possession, you are not the master. Then the thing that you think you possess, is possessing you. Then you are possessed by your possession.

    Charity is a beautiful flowering of one who has, one who is in possession of his being; one who is not poor, one who is rich. This man may be a beggar on the streets. It has nothing to do with your bank balance. The rich man may be a beggar, but if he has his being, authentic being, if he can love, if he can sing, if he can dance, if he can see poetry in the world, he is rich. He may not have anything at all. As far as material things go, he may not have anything. But he has something of the spiritual… something which cannot be taken away from him.

    Observe this fact: that which you really possess cannot be taken away from you. You can only give it — if you want — but nobody can take it away. That which you don’t possess, and by which you are possessed, you can never give — it can only be stolen or taken away, robbed.

    Your love cannot be robbed. There is no way to rob it. You can give it voluntarily, you can give it freely, but nobody can rob it. You can be killed, but your love cannot be killed. There exists no way to murder love. Love seems to be more eternal than your so-called life. Your life can be destroyed very easily… just a hit on the head, just a bullet through the heart; very simple… but nothing can destroy love. Love seems to be the only eternal thing; something not belonging to the world of time. You can give it, but nobody can take it.

    Your money, your respectability, your power, your prestige — they all can be taken away from you. That which can be taken away from you creates a clinging in the mind. You become poorer and poorer, because you have to cling more and more, you have to protect more and more, and you are always afraid and trembling.

    The so-called rich people are continuously trembling… trembling. Deep down they are always afraid because they know that that which they have can be taken away. They can never be certain about it. The very uncertainty goes on eating their heart like a worm. You possess only that which grows out of you, which belongs to you, which is rooted in you. A rich man is one who has poetry in life, dance in life, celebration in life, silence in life, centeredness in life, rootedness in life… who blooms into his inner sky. The rich man is one who is so full, like clouds in the rainy season… ready to shower on anybody who becomes available. Or like an opening bud… ready to share its fragrance with any wind that passes by, or any traveller that comes by. Sharing is overflowing.

    Buddha says this is one of the most difficult things — to try to share that which you don’t have — and that’s what people are doing. They go on trying to love without ever considering the fact that love has not yet grown in their heart. In fact, you don’t love yourself — how can you love others? The basic is missing, the very basic is missing.

    You are not happy alone — how can you be happy together with somebody else? If you are unhappy alone, when you come together with somebody, you will bring your unhappiness to be shared. That’s all you have — your poverty, your rottenness, your misery, your depression, your sadness, your angst, anxiety, anguish… your disease.

    Try to possess something — that which cannot be taken away by anybody, not even by death. Difficult, but possible. It looks impossible. How to be loving without finding a lover? Our whole mind has been conditioned in a wrong way. You can dance without the audience; why can’t you love without there being somebody? You can sing without a listener; why can’t you love without a lover? Your mind has been conditioned wrongly. You think you can love only when there is somebody to love.

    Practise love. Sitting alone in your room, be loving. Radiate love. Fill the whole room with your love energy. Feel vibrating with a new frequency, feel swaying as if you are in the ocean of love. Create vibrations of love energy around you. And you will start feeling immediately that something is happening — something in your aura is changing, something around your body is changing; a warmth is arising around your body… a warmth like deep orgasm. You are becoming more alive. Something like sleep is disappearing. Something like awareness is arising. Sway into this ocean. Dance, sing, and let your whole room be filled with love.

    In the beginning it feels very weird. When for the first time you can fill your room with love energy, your own energy, which goes on falling and rebouncing on you and makes you so happy, one starts feeling, ‘Am I hypnotising myself? Am I deluded? What is happening?’ Because you have always thought that love comes from somebody else. A mother is needed to love you, a father, a brother, a husband, a wife, a child — but somebody.

    Love that depends on somebody is a poor love. Love that is created within you, love that you create out of your own being, is real energy. Then move anywhere with that ocean surrounding you and you will feel that everybody who comes close to you is suddenly under a different kind of energy. People will look at you with more open eyes. You will be passing them and they will feel that a breeze of some unknown energy has passed them; they will feel fresher. Hold somebody’s hand and his whole body will start throbbing. Just be close to somebody and that man will start feeling very happy for no reason at all. You can watch it. Then you are becoming ready to share. Then find a lover, then find a right receptivity for you.

    Source – Osho Book “Discipline of Transcendence, Vol 2″
     
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    The same Irony that can be said about the Catholic Church's Mafia of Marcinskus, who poisoned Pope John Paul I, in order to stay in charge of the Vatican finance's, and not be "the church of God", as John Paul I was going to have them do if he had stayed alive.
    Osho's poisoning was said to be so,afater analizing Osho's hair, urine and blood, by many prestiged Doctors in Europe,
    Germany, and UK. Done by Thalium.While 12 days in false imprisonment.
    So Osho's poisoning has been proven.

    I don't really believe everything the controlled press have said.
    But you are free to believe anything you want without analyzing things.
     
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    Osho - Life is purposeless. And it is beautiful that it is purposeless

    Question: Beloved Osho, If everything is simply happening, then can there be any ultimate purpose to It all, or is life just an accident? Can it be said that life is evolving towards Some ultimate goal?

    Osho: It is very difficult, particularly for the Western mind, to understand that life is purposeless. And it is beautiful that it is purposeless. If it is purposeful then the whole thing becomes absurd – then who will decide the purpose? Then some God has to be conceived who decides the purpose, and then human beings become just puppets; then no freedom is possible. And if there is some purpose then life becomes businesslike, it cannot be ecstatic.

    The West has been thinking in terms of purpose, but the East has been thinking in terms of purposelessness. The East says life is not a business, it is a play. And a play has no purpose really, it is nonpurposeful. Or you can say play is its own purpose, to play is enough. Life is not reaching towards some goal, life itself is the goal. It is not evolving towards some ultimate; this very moment, here and now, life is ultimate.


    Osho - Life is Purposeless


    Life as it is, is accepted in the East. It is not moving towards some end, because if there is some end who will decide the end and why? If God decides it, then you can ask the same question about God: ”What is the purpose of creating a world with purpose?” or, ”Why should he create a purposive world?” or even more deeply, ”What is the purpose of God’s existence?” Maybe life has a purpose and God decides the purpose, but then God’s existence has to be questioned – why he exists – and that way the question is simply pushed one step ahead.

    Then God becomes purposeless, or you have to create another God to decide the purpose of this God. Then you will be in a regress ad infinitum, then there is no end to it. Somewhere deep down you will have to come to the conclusion that this phenomenon is purposeless; otherwise there is no end. So why go from the world to the God? Why not say that life itself is purposeless? The whole game of logicians, theologicians, is stupid in a way. They say, ”God created the world, because how could the world come into existence if there was no one who created it?” But the question can be asked, ”Who created the God?” – and then they fall on their own. They say, ”God is uncreated.”

    If God can exist without being created, why can’t this life itself exist without being created? If you accept that something is possible without being created, then what is the trouble? Then why think about a God who created the world? The East says God is not the creator, God is the creation. Nobody has created it, it is there. It has been so always, it will be so always – sometimes manifest, sometimes unmanifest; sometimes visible, sometimes invisible. It goes on moving in a periodical rhythm, in a circle. But existence itself is uncreated and it has no goal.

    Then think about it in other ways also. Firstly, if there is a goal why hasn’t it been achieved yet? The existence has been existing timelessly, millions and millions of light-years it has existed, and the goal has not been reached yet. When will it be reached? If so many millions and millions of light-years have passed and the goal is nowhere to be seen, when will it be reached? Secondly, if some day the goal is reached, what will happen to existence? Will it disappear? When the purpose is fulfilled, then what? Conceive of a moment somewhere in the future when the purpose is fulfilled: for what will existence exist then? Then it will be purposeless for it to exist.

    The reality is this: that it is already always purposeless. There is no goal towards which the existence is moving. It is moving, but not towards any goal. It has a value, but the value is not in the end, the value is intrinsic. You love someone. Have you asked the question, ”For what purpose does love exist?” The mind, a calculating mind, is bound to ask, ”Why love? What is the purpose?” If you can answer then one thing is certain – that you are not in love. If you can show the purpose then love is not there, it is a business, it is a bargain. But lovers will always say there is no purpose to it.

    To be in love is the goal. The goal is not somewhere else; it is intrinsic, it is in the very phenomenon of love. The goal is already achieved. When you are happy have you asked, ”What is the purpose of being happy?” Can there be any purpose to being happy? When you are happy you never ask because the question is absurd. Happiness is itself the goal, there is no purpose to it. Life is like love, life is like happiness. Life is existence – no goal. And once you can understand this your ways of living will change totally, because if there is no purpose in life itself there is no need to create a purpose for your individual life also – no need. Because of individual purposes you become tense, something has to be achieved.

    Then an achieving mind is created which is always trying to achieve something or other. And whenever something is achieved again the mind asks, ”Now what? What is to be achieved now?” It cannot remain with itself, it has to go on achieving. This achieving mind will never be blissful, it will always be tense. And whenever something is achieved the achieving mind will feel frustrated, because now new goals have to be invented. This is happening in America. Many of the goals of the past century have been achieved, so America is in a deep frustration.

    All the goals of the founding fathers who created America and the American constitution are almost achieved. In America the society has become affluent for the first time in the whole history of mankind. Almost everybody is rich. The poor man in America is a rich man here in India. The goals have almost been achieved – now what to do? Society has become affluent: food is there, shelter is there, everybody has got a car, radio, refrigerator, tv – now what to do? A deep frustration is felt, some other goals are needed. And there seem to be no goals.

    Instead of one car you can have two cars – a two-car garage has become the goal – or you can have two houses, but that will be achieved within ten years. Whatsoever the goal it can be achieved. Then the achieving mind feels frustrated. What to do now? It again needs a goal, and you have to invent a goal. So the whole of American business now depends on inventing goals. Give people goals – that’s what advertisements and the whole business of advertising is doing.

    Create goals, seduce people: ”Now this is the goal! You must have this, otherwise life is purposeless!” They start running, because they have an achieving mind. But where does it lead? It leads into more and more neurosis. Only a nonachieving mind can be at peace. But a nonachieving mind is possible only with the background of a cosmic purposelessness. If the whole existence is purposeless then there is no need for you to be purposeful. Then you can play, you can sing and dance, you can enjoy, you can love and live, and there is no need to create any goal. Here and now, this very moment, the ultimate is present.

    If you are available the ultimate can enter you. But you are not available here; your mind is somewhere in the future, in some goal. Life has got no purpose and this is the beauty of it. If there was some purpose life would have been mean – just futile. It is not a business, it is a play. In India we have been calling it leela. Leela means a cosmic play... as if God is playing. Energy overflowing, not for some purpose, just enjoying itself; just a small child playing – for what purpose? Running after butterflies, collecting colored stones on the beach, dancing under the sun, running under the trees, collecting flowers – for what purpose?

    Ask a child. He will look at you as if you are a fool. There is no need for purpose. Your mind has been corrupted. Universities, colleges, education, society, have corrupted you. They have made it a conditioning deep down within you that unless something has a purpose it is useless – so everything must have a purpose. A child playing has no purpose. At the most, if the child could explain he would say, ”Because I feel good. Running, I feel more alive. Collecting flowers, I enjoy, it is ecstatic.” But there is no purpose. The very act in itself is beautiful, ecstatic. To be alive is enough, there is no need for any purpose.

    Why ask for anything else? Can’t you be satisfied just by being alive? It is such a phenomenon. Just think of yourself being a stone. You could have been, because many are still stones. You must have been somewhere in the past, sometime, a stone. Think of yourself being a tree. You must have been somewhere a tree, a bird, an animal, an insect. And then think of yourself being a man – conscious, alert, the peak, the climax of all possibilities. And you are not content with it. You need a purpose, otherwise life is useless.


    Osho on Life Purpose


    Your mind has been corrupted by economists, mathematicians, theologians. They have corrupted your mind, because they all talk about purpose. They say, ”Do something if something is achieved through it. Don’t do anything which leads nowhere.” But I tell you that the more you can enjoy things which are useless, the happier you will be. The more you can enjoy things which are purposeless, the more innocent and blissful you will be. When you don’t need any purpose you simply celebrate your being.

    You feel gratitude just that you are, just that you breathe. It is such a blessing that you can breathe, that you are alert, conscious, alive, aflame. Is it not enough? Do you need something to achieve so that you can feel good, so that you can feel valued, so that you can feel life is justified? What more can you achieve than what you are? What more can be added to your life? What more can you add to it? Nothing can be added, and the effort will destroy you – the effort to add something.

    But for many centuries all over the world they have been teaching every child to be purposive. ”Don’t waste your time! Don’t waste your life!” And what do they mean? They mean, ”Transform your life into a bank balance. When you die you must die rich. That is the purpose.” Here in the East – particularly the mystics we are talking about, the Upanishads – they say, ”Live richly.” In the West they say, ”Die a rich man.” And these are totally different things. If you want to live richly you have to live here and now, not a single moment is to be lost. If you want to achieve something, you will die a rich man – but you will live a poor man, your life will be poor.

    Look at rich people: their life is absolutely poor, because they are wasting it transforming it into bank balances, changing their life into money, into big houses, big cars. Their whole effort is that life has to be changed for some things. When they die you can count their things. Buddha became a beggar. He was born a king, he became a beggar. Why? Just to live richly... because he came to understand that there are two ways to live: one is to die richly, the other is to live richly.

    And any man who has any understanding will choose to live richly, because dying a rich man doesn’t mean anything; you simply wasted yourself for nothing. But this is possible only if you can conceive that the whole existence is purposeless; it is a cosmic play, a continuous beautiful game, a beautiful hide-and-seek – not leading anywhere. Nowhere is the goal. If this is the background, then you need not be worried about individual purposes, evolution, progress. This word progress is the basic disease of the modern age. What is the need?

    All that can be enjoyed is available, all that you need to be happy is here and now. But you create conditions and you say that unless these conditions are fulfilled you cannot be happy. You say, ”These conditions must be fulfilled first: this type of house, this type of clothes, this type of car, this type of wife, this type of husband. All these conditions have to be fulfilled first, then I can be happy.” As if by being happy you are going to oblige the whole universe. And who is going to fulfill your conditions? Who is worried?

    But you will try for those conditions, and the effort is going to be so long that they can never be fulfilled really, because whenever something is fulfilled, by the time it is fulfilled the goal has shifted. One of my friends was contesting an election, a political election, so he came to me for blessing. I said, ”I will not give the blessing because I am not your enemy, I am a friend. I can only bless that you may not get elected, because that will be the first step towards madness.” But he wouldn’t listen to me. He was elected, he became a member. Next year he came again for my blessing and he said, ”Now I am trying to be a deputy minister.”

    I asked him, ”You were saying that if you could become a member of parliament you would be very happy, but I don’t see that you are happy. You are more depressed and more sad than you ever were before.” He said, ”Now this is the only problem: I am worried. There is much competition. Only if I can become a deputy minister will everything be okay.” He became a deputy minister. When I was passing through the capital he came to see me again and he said, ”I think you were right, because now the problem is how to become the minister. And I think this is the goal. I am not going to change it. Once I become the minister it is finished.”

    He has become the minister now, and he came to me a few days ago and he said, ”Just one blessing more. I must become chief minister.” And he is getting more and more worried, more and more puzzled, because more problems have to be faced, more competition, more ugly politics. And he is a good man, not a bad man. I told him, ”Unless you become the suprememost God you are not going to be satisfied.” But he cannot look back and cannot understand the logic of the mind, the logic of the achieving mind.

    It can never be satisfied, the way it behaves creates more and more discontent. The more you have the more discontent you will feel, because more arenas become open for you in which to compete, to achieve. A poor man is more satisfied because he cannot think that he can achieve much. Once he starts achieving something he thinks more is possible. The more you achieve the more becomes possible, and it goes on and on forever. A meditator needs a nonachieving mind, but a nonachieving mind is possible only if you can be content with purposelessness. Just try to understand the whole cosmic play and be a part in it.

    Don’t be serious, because a play can never be serious. And even if the play needs you to be serious, be playfully serious, don’t be really serious. Then this very moment becomes rich. Then this very moment you can move into the ultimate. The ultimate is not in the future, it is the present, hidden here and now. So don’t ask about purpose – there is none, and I say it is beautiful that there is none. If there was purpose then your God would be just a managing director or a big business man, an industrialist, or something like that.

    Jesus says.... Somebody asked him, ”Who will be able to enter into the kingdom of your God?” Jesus said, ”Those who are like small children.” This is the secret. What is the meaning of being a small child? The meaning is that the child is never businesslike, he is always playful. If you can become playful you have become a child again, and only children can enter into the kingdom of God, nobody else, because children can play without asking where it is leading. They can make houses of sand without asking whether they are going to be permanent.

    Can somebody live in them? Will they be able to resist the wind that is blowing? They know that within minutes they will disappear. But they are very serious when they are playing. They can even fight for their sandhouses or houses of cards. They are very serious when they are creating. They are enjoying. And they are not fools, they know that these houses are just cardhouses and everything is makebelieve. Why waste time in thinking in terms of business? Why not live more and more playfully, nonseriously, ecstatically?

    Ecstasy is not something which you can achieve by some efforts, ecstasy is a way of living. Moment to moment you have to be ecstatic, simple things have to be enjoyed. And life gives millions of opportunities to enjoy. You will miss them if you are purposive. If you are not purposive, every moment you will have so many opportunities to be ecstatic. A flower, a lonely flower in the garden... you can dance if you are nonpurposive. The first star in the evening... you can sing if you are nonpurposive. A beautiful face... you can see the divine in it if you are nonpurposive. All around the divine is happening, the ultimate is showering. But you will be able to see it only if you are nonpurposive and playful.

    Source: from book “Vedanta: Seven Steps to Samadhi” by Osho



     
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    Osho On Religious & Political Leaders:
    Neither the religious leader nor the politician is interested in the people whom they pretend to lead. They are interested in being leaders ― and of course the leader cannot be without the led, so it is a necessity to go on promising the people things. Po…liticians promise them things of this world; religious leaders promise them things of the other world. But do you see any difference in what they are doing?

    Both are promising so that you go on following them, afraid to get lost somewhere else, because if you lose the path then you will miss the promise.

    The promise keeps you with the crowd ― and promises don´t cost anything. You can promise anything. Promises are always for tomorrow, and tomorrow never comes. Osho, Excerpted from: From Darkness to Light, chapter 5


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    “Each person comes into this world with a specific destiny. He has something to fulfill, some message has to be delivered, some work has to be completed.”

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    21 June 1977 pm in Chuang Tzu Auditorium

    The courage of a madman is needed

    ... Let the past be dropped as if it were part of a dream, as if it belonged to somebody else, as if you had seen it in a movie that you were just a witness to and not a participant in – just a watcher, a spectator, standing aloof.

    That is the best way to drop all the burden that the past naturally creates. There is no need to fight with it. In fighting it you remain attached to it; in fighting it you remain obsessed with it; in fighting, it remains. At the most you can press it back into your unconscious, but it will be there. It will move into the underground of your being, will become part of your basement but will go on affecting your life from there.

    So the best way is never to fight. To fight means one is ready to get defeated; it is self-defeating. The best way to win is not to fight. Just drop it! Just have the awareness that you are a watcher... and that’s how it is!

    Whatsoever has happened to you in your life and whatsoever you have done, deep down your inner being has been just a witness to it; it has never been a doer. It is always transcendental. When you are angry, it is standing far away and looking at your anger. When you are cleaning the floor, it is standing far away and looking at you cleaning the floor.

    You are young and it is looking, you become old and it is looking; you are happy it is looking, you are unhappy it is looking. It is always just there, standing by the side; it never gets involved. It remains pure and untouched by all experience whatsoever: neither good makes it good, nor bad makes it bad.

    That purity, that innocence, is always there. It is ours to claim: it has just to be recognised. So with the new name forget the old and drop the past.

    ... Prabhu means god and praveeta means pregnant – pregnant with god. And you are pregnant with god; that has been your search for many lives. You have been groping in the dark but the search has been there. And unless god is born in you, you will never feel contented, you will never feel satisfied. Nothing less than god will help, nothing less will do... and that can happen!

    That is the easiest thing in the world to happen because it is our innermost nature. We are made in the image of god, we carry the seed inside: it just needs right soil, right nurturing, right nursing, and it will sprout. That’s what I mean by pregnant. Everybody is pregnant with god but very few people are fortunate enough to give birth.

    You can become one of those fortunate ones. Just trust and courage – almost the courage of a madman – is needed. The courage of a fool is needed because it is such an impossible adventure that clever people cannot go into it; their very cleverness prevents them. Calculating people cannot have any god; their very calculation is against them.

    Only people who are innocent childlike, in a way primitive, mad, can take the jump – because they can trust that the impossible is also possible.

    The moment you believe that the impossible is possible it becomes possible – because it is all our belief. As a man thinketh, so he becomes. It is all our idea: if we think we are unhappy, we are unhappy; if we think we are not unhappy, we are not unhappy. It is just that we go on creating a certain vibe around ourselves by thinking it continuously. If somebody lives in misery it is his own fiction.

    It is just like people who go to the movie to see a horrible film: they know it is horrible but they want to see it. And they suffer in the film; they go through all kinds of torture because they become identified. Still they pay and go; they pay for it! They know it is just a film, and it is horrible, but they want to see it.

    It is exactly the same case in life: there are people who want to remain in misery; that is their decision. There are people who don’t want to remain in misery; that is their decision. And you choose your life; it is all your choice. The moment you want to change, you can change it – just like that.

    So let this sannyas be a radical change in your pattern of life. From this moment think of god, from this moment look for god, from this moment whatsoever you see, try to find god in it. It may be a rock, but god is rock in a rock. It may be a tree, but god is tree in a tree. It may be a child giggling, but god is child in a child, god is giggling in giggling.

    Go on looking for god. By and by you will see that this whole universe is his temple and we are not to go somewhere else to find him. He is here, he has always been here... just a recognition was missing.

    [The new sannyasin asks about returning to the West to finish a book she is writing about Francis Bacon: It’s a historical study about what historians can do to the reputation of a man who was loved in his time.

    Mm... good! Bacon is one of the most important persons to think about.

    Good! – go and finish it.

    OSHO, The Further Shore, ch.19
     
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    This must be clearly understood. Definitions are not ultimate truths, they are relative. There is not a single act that cannot be considered good in some context. A good deed can be bad in one context and a bad deed may be good in another. If you are to make any final judgment you will have to know everything from the very beginning to the very end – everything in the whole of existence. But of course, this is impossible.

    All our statements about good and bad, beauty and ugliness, are nothing more than traffic regulations. We have to make them, but they are not ultimate truths. “Keep left” or “keep right” – it makes no difference. But no society can do both: either you have to keep right or you have to keep left. The rule is utilitarian; it is neither natural nor ultimate.

    The road is absolutely unconcerned with whether you keep to the right or to the left, but traffic does require certain rules. When there is less traffic you do not have to make any rules; but the more confusing the traffic, the more rules will be needed. In a village there is no need for traffic rules, but in a big city rules are needed.

    As society develops in a more complex way, a more clearly defined morality is needed; otherwise you will not be able to live. But these moralities, these conceptions of good and bad, are human expediencies.

    When you ask how there can be corruption if God exists, remember: God is not involved at all. There are reasons for corruption, but God is not responsible, the total is not responsible. If responsibility is to be put anywhere, it is to be put on us. We have created a society in which corruption has become necessary because its very base is corrupt.

    Unless you change the very foundation of society there is bound to be corruption; there has always been corruption. Forms have changed, but the corruption has remained because we have not yet created a society in which corruption is impossible.

    This situation is our creation; God is not involved in it at all. It is as much a human creation as this table, this sofa, this house. You cannot hold God responsible for this house, or for this room’s being small and not large, or for this window’s facing west and not east. You never ask God, “Why did you build this window onto the east wall and not the west?” That would be nonsense – you know that it is some person who built the window into the east wall. God has never been asked about it, he is not a party to it.

    In the same way you can ask why there is corruption, but you cannot make any reference to God. To ask why there is corruption is a pertinent question. But to talk about God in reference to corruption is impertinent. Our society has been made by us – we are the architects of it. And because the foundation of it is wrong, because the base upon which we have built all of society’s structures is not scientific, it is bound to be corrupt. It is a human problem. We can change it or we can prolong it – it depends on us.


    From Osho, The Great Challenge, Chapter 8

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    Love is the ability to experience. Love is sensitivity. Love is the experience in which all your impurities are washed away and you throw open all your doors, all your gates.

    Then whosoever stands at your door is no longer an enemy or a friend but a beloved, and you open your door to him. When you begin to feel the whole world is yours, when you begin to see the beloved in whosoever comes to your door, when you no longer see strangers or enemies, when you begin to see only friends everywhere – when this phenomenon takes place in you, know that you have found love.

    And for the man who has found love what else remains to be found? The man who has found love has found the key to the door of God.

    Understand the significance of love carefully. Nothing is greater than love, not even God. God is achieved through love, but love is not achieved through God. The presence of God does not guarantee love, but the presence of love will surely bring him to you. As Jesus has said, “Love is God.”

    The basic question, the fundamental problem, is seeking love. So let us clarify at the outset how love has been lost, because the way to regain it will only be clear when we know and understand how it has been lost in the first place.

    The road you take to find love is the same road on which you lost it. But you have to reverse your direction. You will have to turn around and walk the opposite way. The same ladder leads to heaven or to hell. One end is in hell and the other is in heaven.

    You begin to lose love as you become more and more attached to material things. This is hell; this is the end of the ladder that is grounded in material things.

    But as love grows, God becomes manifest. And this is the other end of the ladder. This is where the other end is fixed. Love is a ladder, a path. If you abandon love you begin a downward journey; as you embrace it you begin an upward path.

    If you ask me, I will tell you to forget God, to forget truth. I will tell you to seek only love. All the rest will follow. Just as your shadow follows you, God follows love.

    But no matter how hard you seek, you will achieve nothing without love. This is because the seeker is dull and insensitive. He has neither the capacity nor the fitness for the search. He is asleep, unconscious. He is full of hatred, anger and hostility; he is submerged in the poison of malice. And only the nectar of love brings forth joy.

    Every child is beautiful, lovely. And this is because he is born with love. But then, by and by, a disorder somehow occurs within him. Every child is so lovely; every child is so beautiful. Have you ever seen an ugly child?

    The beauty of a child has nothing to do with his physical body, it comes from some inner strength. Within him, his lamp of love burns brightly and its rays emanate from every pore of his body, spreading their luster all around. Wherever he looks, he looks with love. But as he grows he begins to lose this love. And we help in that process.


    From Osho, The Great Secret, Chapter 1

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    OSHO - Beyond Enlightenment [Discourse 18] - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVgcon4o-4M"]OSHO - Beyond Enlightenment [Discourse 18] - YouTube
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    0shos ppl convicted of poisoning nearbytown
    over political rivalry

    then osho says usa poisoned him

    my carma ran over your dogma
     
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    This has been answered before.
     
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    Vulture CULTure = USA
     
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    A fakir, a beggar, was praying in a mosque, just early in the morning when it was still dark. It was a certain religious day for Mohammedians, and he was praying, and he was saying, "I am nobody. I am the poorest of the poor, the greatest sinner of sinners."

    Suddenly there was one more person who was praying. He was the emperor of that country, and he was not aware that there was somebody else there who was praying - it was dark, and the emperor was also saying:

    "I am nobody. I am nothing. I am just empty, a beggar at our door." When he heard that somebody else was saying the same thing, he said, "Stop! Who is trying to overtake me? Who are you? How dare you say before the emperor that you are nobody when he is saying that he is nobody?"

    This is how the ego goes. It is so subtle. Its ways are so subtle and cunning; you have to be very, very alert, only then will you see it. Don't try to be humble. Just try to see that all misery, all anguish comes through it.

    Just watch! No need to drop it.

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    PSYCHOLOGY OF DREAMS

    Can you explain something in reference to dreams?

    We have seven bodies: (1) the Physical (2) The Etheric (3) the Astral
    (4) The Mental (5)The Spiritual (6) The Cosmic (7) The Nirvanic

    Each body has its own type of dream. In Western Psychology, the physical body is known as the conscient and the astral body as the collective unconcious.

    The physical body creates its own dreams. If your stomach is not well, a special type of dream comes up. If you are feeling sick, with fever, the physical body creates a dream in reference to this. One thing is sure: the dream comes out of an un-easiness.

    The etheric body (the 2nd body) dreams in its own style. The etheric body
    can travel in dreams. It is possible that it will abandon your physical body. When you remember this, you will remeber this as a dream; but it is not a dream
    in the same sense of the ones the physical body has. The etheric body can leave you while you sleep. Your physical body will remain there, but your etheric body can go out and travel in space. There is no space that can limit it; no distance is too far for the etheric body. For those who do not understand this ,who do not recognize the existence of the etheric body, will say that it is the unconcious. Then , the physiological dream is called "concient" and the etheric dream "unconcious". Iit is not unconcious. It is as concious , but at another level..

    The etheric dreams can be created by being stimulated. The MANTRA is one of the methods to create etheric visions, esoteric dreams. A MANTRA , a word that resounds repeatedly in the etheric cetner, can produce esoteric dreams. There are so many methods. Sound is one of them.

    The Sufis used perfume to produce etheric visions. A determinate perfume can produce a certain dream.

    Colors can also be useful. In a certain ocasion Leasbeater ( an outstanding Krishnamurti figure) had an etheric dream with a blue colored vision, only in a blue shade, a precise one. He started looking for this specific tone blue color in the markets of the whole world. After many years of searching for it, he finally found it in an Italian store: a velvet with that precise blue tone. Velvet was then used to create etheric dreams in other people.

    There are also astral dreams. In astral dreams, you go through your past lives. This is the third dimension of your dreams.

    Sometimes it happens that in a common dream parts of the etheric or astral appear. The dream turns then into a mix: you cannot understand it. Since your seven bodies exist simultaneously ,a fragment of a level can appear in another, can penetrate in it. So sometimes ,including in common dreams, appear parts of the etheric or astral.

    In the etheric body, you can travel in space but not in time. You can go anywhere.
    In the dimension of the Astral, the 3rd body, you can travel not only in space ,but also in time. The astral body can go through the barrier of time ,but only towards the past, not towards the future. The astral mind can penetrate in the infinite scale of the past, from the amoeba until man. In Jungian psychology, the astral mind is the equivalent of the collective unconcious.. It is your personal history of lives before. And astral dreams have a lot of sense, of meaning. Nevertheless the 3rd body can only dream with the past, not with that which will come.

    The Fourth body is the Mental. It can travel to the past, and to the future.
    In a real emergency, including a normal person can have a dream of the future. If someone you love is dying, this message can be delivered to you in a normal dream. Since you do not know other dimensions of your dreams, the message will appear in your current dreams.

    Nevertheless the dream will not be clear ,because it will have to cross barriers that it will find before being able to become part of your current oniric dreams.
    Each body has its own symbology, so when a body goes from one body to another,
    iit is translated to the symbology of the last. Then everything can become confusing.

    If you dream DIRECTLY from the fourth body---you will be able to see into the future, but only in yours, you can not do it in that of another person.

    For the Fourth body, the past is so much present as the future is. Past, present and fure unite themselves, it all becomes a NOW. a NOW that penetrates into what has gone, a Now that penetrates into that which will come.

    The FIFTH BODY, the spiritual body, goes through the dominion of the individual and that of time. Now you find yourself in eternity. The dream has no relation with you as an individual but with conciousness of the whole. Now you know part of of the past of existence, not of the future.

    Through this Fifth body all the myths of creation have been developed. They are the same. Symbols differ Wether they be Christian, Hindu, Jewish or Egytian ,the myths of creation are basically similar. For example there are similar stories to the universal flood. There is no historic record of them; nevertheles there IS a record. This belongs to the fifth mind, the spiritual body. The fiifth mind can dream about these stories.

    The deeper you go, the more the dream comes closer to reality. The physiological body is not so real. The etheric is more real ,and the astral much more, the mental comes CLOSE to reality and finally in the fifth body , you come to be realistic in your dream. This is the way to know reality. To talk about a dream is inadequate. But in a certain way it is a dream, becasue what is real does not find itself present. It has its own objectiviity, but it comes to us as a subjective experience.

    Two persons that have come to be realised in the fifth body can dream simultaneously. So starting from the 5th body, a dream can be dreamed by many persons at the same time. This is why dreams are to a certain point objectives.
    This is how many people dreaming in the 5th body ,came to know all about myths. These myths were not created by isolated individuals. They were created by specific schools, traditions that worked together as a team.

    All the theological concepts are created by the fifth body. They differ in language, its terminology, concepts ,nevertheless, at the bottom they are the same. They are dreams of the fifth body.

    In the SIXTH BODY, the cosmic body, you cross the threshold of conciouus/unconcious ,material/mental. All distinctions dissapears. The 6th body dreams with the cosmos. Now everything is alive and concious. Even that which we know as matter, now forms part of conciousness.
    The dreams about cosmic myths have been realized in the 6th body. They have transcended the individual and that which is concient. You have transcended time and space; but you still need langauge. It points toward something; it indicates something. All those that have dreamt in a cosmic dimension have been the creators of the great systems, the great religions.

    In the 6th type of mind, dreams are in terms of the SELF, not in terms of non-being. There is still a being tied to to existence and fear of non-existence, being and non-being. They are still separate. This is the last barrier.

    The SEVENTH BODY, the nirvanic, crosses the frontier of the positive and jumps to the void. It has its own dreams: dreams of non-existence,dreams of void, dreams of emptiness. The yes is left behind and NO is no longer a NO; void is not part of anything. It is more part of the infinite. The positive must have limits: it cannot be infinite. Only what is negative has no limits.
    Now there are no symbols, or shapes. Now there are no more sounds than that of absolute silence These silent dreams are total and unending.

    In the dominion of the spiritual, a lot was known in the East. Nevertheless, this knowlege ends up being dangerous in the hands of ignorant people, so the keys was hidden. Kowledge was hidden in secret ,transformed into esoteric. It was transmitted from one individaul to another, carefully. Nevetheless ,due to scientiific progress, the time has come to reveal it. Science will come to be dangerous if these esoteric truths are unknown. They should be exposed so the spiritual knowledge will go side by side with scientific knowledge.

    Dream is one of the most gigantic esoteric dominions.

    I have said a couple of things about the subject so you can start getting concious of this, but I have not transmitted to you the entire science. It is neither necessary or useful. I have left breaches.

    If they come into something these breaches will fill themselves up automatically. What I have spoken about refers to the most outer phase. This will not be enough to start a theory on the subject; but it is enough to start.


    From PSYCHOLOGY OF THE ESOTERIC, OSHO (extracted)





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