Osama bin Barack wants the Koran taught in public schools!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wa bluska wica, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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  2. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    I'm coming for your inheritance wacky!

    BOO!
     
  3. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    I believe you called me spoiled once. Today marks my 21st day of work without a day off. I average 8-14 hours of work a day. I had almost 4 hours of sleep last night, started work at 8:30 this morning, and am just finishing up (it's about 1:30am) I did take about a three hour break this evening for dinner and to relax my brain. That sure sounds spoiled doesn't it? How lucky am I? I'm not looking for sympathy, and I do not put these long hours in because I would not be able to survive on income provided from a normal schedule. I put an extra effort in because I recognize the importance of financial stability, and also because there are luxury items that improve my quality of life that I am able to afford because I work above and beyond what is required to just get by.

    So am I spoiled because I am watching a 60" plasma? Am I spoiled because I gave up having weekends off, 8 hours of sleep a night, stress free life to pay for luxuries like that? I could have kept the 32" CRT. There was nothing wrong with it. Would I have been less spoiled if I only worked 40 hours a week and had all my weekends off? Less spoiled by having a lower stress level and waking up from 8 hours of a good night sleep? There will become a point in taxation where it no longer becomes worth putting in this extra effort so that the bottom feeders can have more than they earned. Unfair taxation forces people like me to wash what I can, use loopholes where available, and pay blood sucking lawyers and accountants so that more of MY money stays in MY pocket. Am I trying to get out of paying any tax? No. But you can be sure of one thing. After Obama accepts the Presidency, when he raises inheritance and capital gains taxes to the levels that he has promised, he will not get another dime from me.
     
  4. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    It's amazing to see the number of people on this site who don't like Obama. Considering most people here are left leaning in some form or another, seeing the number of anti-Obama posts is kind of suprising.

    Considering that and similar semtiments on other sites as well, I have to wonder how acurate Obama's poll lead really is.
     
  5. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    wackyiraqi sure posts a lot for a guy who [claims to] work so much
     
  6. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    Wow, you really believe in your own narrative, don't you.

    Working hard does not entitle you to inherit massive sums of capital without paying tax on the income, despite what Sean Hannity tells you. Income is income. The reality is that you can't make the transfer without the help of the government, and you will have to pay for that. Freedom is not free.

    If you are going to whine about how hard you work, I will tell you not to work so hard so you can enjoy life instead of whining. If you like working so hard, quit whining.
     
  7. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    About 75% percent of my work requires the use of a laptop, and about 50% of that requires an online connection. Tranferring electronic files, accessing key servers, etc.... 2mb wireless connection, allows access wherever I can receive coverage. Usually during work I have several windows open in the background and take frequent "mental" breaks. Usually post in a forum or two to keep the mind excercised while taking a break from work, sometimes I research other interests, sometimes play chess. Also usually do about two hours on the stationary bike a day while working, and often perform some calisthenics to keep the blood flowing. Sitting behind a computer screen all day isn't too exciting, but I guess there are worse jobs out there. At least I don't have to sit in an office.

    No conspiracy here folks, sorry.
     
  8. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    We've discusses this regarding inheritance tax, and I understand that you are an advocate for massive taxing of the "wealthy" (which I am not). I have no problem paying tax. I do have a problem with paying excessive tax.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894&feature=related


    I do enjoy life, very much. And I am not whining, just trying to show you that one man's spoiled, is another man's compromise. I could sit on my ass for 20 extra hours a week or so. I would have more free time, more time to sleep, less stress, pay less tax, etc... Or I could work these extra hours and purchase the things I like, visit the places I choose, etc... I choose the latter and I don't think that I should be punished for doing so.
     
  9. lode

    lode Banned

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    Nations not that great.
     
  10. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    It's just knowing that you'd be one of the first to be screaming, if it was you with an inheritance to protect...

    All that aside, just how do you figure that money your family made and wants to leave to you is some sort of basket of gold, up-for-grabs, for everyone to have some of? Did everyone contribute to it?

    What about the mathematics of it all... Hmmm... i get $$$ - 55% from my father. i don't do anything with it, in my lifetime, and i want to leave it to my son. NOW, he gets ( $$$ - 55%, that's what i got) - 55%.

    First off, that's a blatant double taxation.

    Second, since when is it considered 'right' to change a man's bequest OR take away his inheritance???

    That is not good legislation to anyone but a socialist, who already PLANS to 'suck' off the public teat, for all s/he's worth, because, i mean, y'all are ENTITLED to the same life-style as someone that actually works for every little thing they get, right? i mean, you're At Least As Important as Wacky, and even though you aren't willing to work for those little extras, that doesn't mean you don't Deserve them, does it? :dupe:

    That surely explains a lot.
     
  11. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Before we advocate increased taxation tell me just what is so great about out goverment that it should claim and even greater portion of our wealth?

    Is taxation viewed as a way to fund useful goverment actions or is it a way to realise your schadenfreude and take punitive action against wealthy people?
     
  12. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    what is so great about the wealthy that they should take an even greater portion?
     
  13. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    actually what a socialist believes is that the person who actually creates the wealth

    [by sewing the shirts, making the shoes, assembling the televisions, assembling the automobiles, et cetera]

    and that the person who protects the wealth

    [by putting out the fires, arresting the criminals, fighting the wars, teaching the children, et cetera]

    deserves the same pay as those who merely own the corporations and the property

    the estate tax is to prevent the children of the owner class from becoming lazy trust-welfare recipients

    they should really spend a little time digging ditches

    [it's for their own good]
     
  14. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    btw wackyiraqi sounds like the saddest person i have ever [virtually] met
     
  15. goodvibes83

    goodvibes83 Senior Member

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    you make some bold statements and irrational connections.

    "I wish that Mrs. Finkelsmith could teach us about some of the other people in the world. I would like to learn more about other religions too."

    Clearly this PROVES to all you terrorist-loving Thugocrats that your Messiah is actually the Mahdi, who will bring a Millenium of Islamic terror and Socialist destruction to America once he is installed as IMAM.

    haha are you SERIOUS? First off if this is real, then good for him...he didn't say only Islam should be taught in school. You have drawn such irrational conclusions with NO data to reference it. I'm sure I said the same thing back when I was little, and I say the same things now. If one religion is gonna be taught, all should be introduced. Otherwise it is not the study of religion it is theology. If we are going to infer anything from this quote (which might not even be legit) we should appreciate an open mind
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    Go ahead Islamofascistcommies, vote for "The One", when he climbs out of his well in Iraq and kills our brave men in uniform and destroys the world, you will only have yourselves to blame!!!

    ...you are takling abuot George W. Bush here aren't you?
     
  16. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    the whole thread is a put-on, based on similar serious threads i have seen herein with equally ludicrous logic

    sheesh...
     
  17. maryjohn

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    You read too much NYPost. It appears to be breaking down your ability to think about issues in more sophisticated terms.

    To answer your question, please don't confuse the joking, which pokes fun at the ridiculously simplistic notion that taxation is a punishment and that we are heading towards the dictatorship of the proletariat, with a serious statement of political philosophy. You are obviously intelligent, so when you see me playing the role of "typical liberal" as caricatured by your favorite right wing tabloid, assume it's a joke.

    Taxation is not punishment. It is payment for value. Without government and taxation, the wealth you speak of would lose more value than is lost through taxation, even at the disputable figure of 55%.

    Wa bluska, you got one thing wrong. Under socialism, the corporations belong to the government. Sort of the way you and I are partial owners of quite a few US banks.
     
  18. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    do not confuse socialism with communism, or assume thatany of these ideologies has one rigid stance

    additionally, all my wealth is in my paypal account [there ain't that much]
     
  19. maryjohn

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    Socialism is defined as collective ownership of resources an capital.

    Communism is a specific political philosophy that incorporates socialism.
     
  20. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    @ bold "Who merely own the corps and property" ...

    You don't believe that someone that is a LOT smarter, more inventive, better educated, more talented, whatever, should make more than Joe Blow, putting in his 40hrs/wk?


    @ bold "from becoming lazy trust-welfare recipients" ...

    Sounds a lot better to me than REAL welfare recipients, who are perfectly capable of doing Mr. Joe Blows job, but just "don't feel like it."


    What you're calling for in society is the nullification of ANY individuality, creativity, and ambition, and i've got to tell you, coming from a hippie, that's quite the contradiction.
     

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