Ordering from legit companies

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by 25dimethoxy, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. guerillabedlam

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    I'm absolutely terrible at frisbee golf, I usually end up just chucking the fucking thing as far as i can by the end of the game.
     
  2. 25dimethoxy

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    No no no, I know several sites that sell in LSD milligrams, and doi in illigrams to.
    I dont know if its against bored rules, but 1mg of lsd from one site is £55. This is a very large legittimate copnay.
    From what i can read no one really has any experiences delaing witjh companies like this?

    DOI is illegal though isnt it. I still dont see how they can get away with it, do they need a licence?
     
  3. UXnIHAOnUXbmUXn

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    Sounds sketchy. Cybercrime units have caught up to what's going on with the internet and the illegal drug trade. They know the methods now, they know how to impersonate "legitimate companies", they know how to lure people into "trading forums" they create or infiltrate those that are created by others.

    About a year ago I was dealing with a very private vendor distributing LSD and MDMA among a few other things. This guy had been around for about 3-4 years, and in the later years he became private but didn't let down on any of his security protocols.

    I had ordered some MDMA and valium tablets from him and the package was mysteriously "misrouted" to another part of my state. Never arrived. Vendor tells me for some reason this has been happening to some of his other packages at the same time, but not to worry, it's only a cooincidence I interpret as being creepy. Nevertheless, I ask for my money to be refunded. I'm done with this - too many red flags.

    Ultimate suspicions are confirmed when package with my money never arrives. Vendor stops answering e-mails. Tracking information locks this time at "Arrived at Sorting Facility" from the vendors end. About two months later I get a letter from the FBI Cybercrime division asking me if I would like to come forward and claim the cash being sent to me, and included a case # regarding illegal activities from the sender. Obviously, and as everyone should in this type of situation, I simply ignored that letter and never "claimed" anything.

    Your first red flag should be that they're offering to send you a Schedule-1 substance in a significant amount - 10 grams - and are willing to do some sort of cash on delivery thing. The cash you hand over at delivery could potentially be the incriminating evidence used to arrest you. Just saying....

    If this isn't the case the 'company' may be lying about sending you the product up front. They will say it didn't arrive and must have run into problems with customs. They might offer to "send less as a sample - in more secure packaging" but this time demand payment up front. The whole idea they were going to send you something upfront to begin with is part of their scam to get you to trust them or feel guilty and obliged to pay for the next "sample" which is cash they will pocket.

    And no, a company isn't protected if a scheduled substance in the receiving country is not scheduled in their home country. We have started to see reports since 2007 of the US DEA working with INTERPOL to arrest international vendors who do this. No one is immune anymore.

    Take a look at some of the suppliers we're pretty confident are legitimate in all aspects - they will only sell compounds that are not explicitly scheduled in the US, UK, or most other countries where their demand comes from. They will also not offer chemicals, usually, until established members at clandestine biochemistry forums figure out that new compounds are theoretically "relatively safe" for consumption.

    hate to rain on your parade - I just want you to stay safe and off the radar.

    PS it's not unusual for scammers and LE informants to send out small parcels to establish themselves as "legitimate" then bad things happen to those who try to go for something bulk. This is what I've heard through the grapevine. I'm not saying truly legit vendors aren't still out there, just for someone out of the loop it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack. A haystack that's on fire....
     
  4. Codmouse

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    Yeah, people like it in CO. But not as much as in MT! MO didn't have that big of a scene that I saw, but I didn't live there.

    And as far as I know, in the US at least, DOI is just an analog. I just checked erowid and they don't have anything either.
     
  5. LoC

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    DOI is not scheduled in the USA.

    LSD is scheduled, but really, really small amounts of controlled substances are exempt from scheduling if they meet certain conditions (search for "schedule i" exemptions or exempt chemicals or something like that, you will find this is true). I believe they have to be sold by DEA licensed facilities, but I'm not 100% sure. Usually the fees are 10x what you would see on the street to keep you from buying them. This could be what you've stumbled upon.

    A "company" could still scam you by sending you 10g of talcum powder. You pay upon delivery and they get the money and you still get fucked.
     
  6. JungleChild

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    Ain't this the truth. I've spent the past 3+ weeks searching all over the place for a legitimate vendor, but I am iffy about all of them, even the ones that seem genuine.

    I've already been burnt twice now and the two other sources I found that look legit will only accept larger orders, and I refuse to throw that much money at them without knowing for sure that I will actually get the package and it is indeed what they say it is.

    I not a stranger to the google and I thought I could kind of weed out the real from the fake, but I guess I never realized how many scammers are really out there. A needle in a haystack is an understatement. :willy_nilly:
     
  7. rcable

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    X, no wait.... I'll put in two scents.

    Customs declarations are often as fake as the gucci labels inside them. Ever hear of importing industrial/commercial goods and hollowing them out to make a container? It's easier to just sign a name to a lie on a sheet of paper, and wave the box through the red tape. That's for y'all noobs out there.

    I also highly doubt a company will ship on credit to a client they have no history of relation to. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Maybe it is relevant to these clients manner of doing business - strikes me as a mark for scammers. I've been so swamped by freebie requests to prove validation, I had to wonder if every hot dog cart vendor goes through this, and imagine a great number of them turned scammer as result of it being more lucrative a biz than legit vending.

    Who walks into a 7-11 saying they'd like a big gulp and hot dog, and once it is digested, they'll return to buy another one once they believe you aren't selling empty bottles and bags, scouts honor. Or, let me bite into this hot dog and slerp the big gulp, before I pay for it... In a 7/11 you might just shoot the clerk before he calls the police, or misc. shenanigans.

    May the OP and me-too's have good luck finding, and keeping a legit vendor. I know they are out there - one is within arms reach of me this second! :D Treat them with respect, as hospitable as some are, they do not need any of your misery piled on them.
     

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