Opiates and Depression

Codone, this is not a realistic scenario. Sure, just to have fun and get high oxy can be used in moderation--however, when one is using it to escape occasional depression or anxiety, then there is no way they won't start using it alot. the reasons for this are endless. and even if they could muster up the strength to not use unless they are really depressed--it will make the "normal" times when they are neither depressed nor high seem particularly dull and unenjoyable compared to when on oxy. so even if they manage to use in moderation, all in all they are better off not doing it all and just handle depression like most everybody else, without drugs.

 

you've got it my friend. you've just summed up the extremely thin line between the occasional recreational user and the addict in rehab.

 

well actually, weed is not a stress reducer. infact, it can significantly increase stress and anxiety. it just basically intensifies your feelings and sensations and inhibits the ability to monitor your thought process. so if your feeling happy and relaxed before you get high--then you will feel even better stoned...its all about the mindset going into it. it is not naturally liked regardless of disposition such as opiates are--opiates, regardless of the mindset, will make one feel good due to its chemical makeup. to a degree it is like acid in that it "removes" the outer shell of the body and reveals your inner self--and whatever that is is how you will feel. there is not one standard, expected feeling to get when stoned. the only sure fire thing you can expect is to get the munchies.

 

Although I don't recommend this, I 100% understand what you're saying. Sometimes when one is very depressed--they can't even begin to think of how life could be enjoyable and forget what it feels like to feel good. opiates, although artificial and short-lived, have a way of reminding one of how enjoyable life can be. if one can take note of this while high on opiates and realize that life can be good, it could possibly carry over to help depression when they are not high. it is very unlikely though, because within a couple of days, that feeling more and more distant and disconnected, and youre left even more depressed. but totally understand what you are saying.

 

I wouldnt recommend anyone try it either, toocrisp.

Its a slippery slope that requires self discipline, determination and will power... all of which dissapear once the high is gone. I dont think most people would beable to pull it off.

Ive been succesfull with this method twice, but Ive also failed at it as well.

So generally, I wouldnt recommend opiates for depression. Can they work to help treat depression? Yes. Is it recommended? No.

 

opiates is a 4 to 6 hours escape from depression it doesnt cure it, it causes it because when you use opiates to escape, normal life seems mundane and boring like nothing can make you happy. opiates and depression is a horrific cycle of trying to run from real life

 

I totally agree. When I was using opiates every day I would get severely depressed once the high wore off.

 

^^ dam , i can relate to everything in this thread, like i don't feel suicidal but days i can't get a perk, damn its terrible.. being on that shit for a year straight and the doses rising from feelin good off 10 Miligrams to now 90 a day , it's hard to not do anything every 4-6 hours i'm awake and when i dont have money or a perk for the next day i scheme to get stuff and i end up in debt and when my paycheck comes i pay off the debt and then only have enough to either pay my bill or get more pills, the last cycle i got more pills so now imy phone service might hsut off until i wait til my next paycheck which is next friday but the thing is i ran outta money and pills to do my last check so without anything for the whoel week i'm going to start borrowing and be in more debt.. shits a never ending cycle and by the time a few months roll by i'll probably be fired for some stupid shit ..

hell times i've been so hurt i've done deals at my job under the camera and 2 days ago an employee saw a sketchy kid walk to my car and i opened my trunk n threew cash in there n he threw something grabbed it and walked off and i closed my trunk and looked over and there was a coworker lookin at me with his newspaper open and i was liek fuck , but i didnt care cause i went into the bathroom n blew my perk and i was like fuck em i feel good , i dont care if i get fired , my mentality is completely different it sucks

 

I have severe bipolar disorder with horrible depression being nearly constant for the last 15 years of my life.

I have been on a member of every class of antidepressant, been to every major type of psychotherapy, and a number of off-label medications (including amphetamines). The only thing that ever truly put my troubled mind at peace was opioids. So much so that I welcomed becoming addicted to opioids and have absolutely NO regrets for it. When I became heavily addicted, I simply got on Suboxone and since then have had a normal life for the first time in my adult life (and teenage life). I am so thankful that opioids exist. I literally believe I would have succumbed to suicide about 2.5 years ago without them.

I am the happiest opioid addict in the world and have no qualms saying that!

 

mike - you need to go talk to somebody ASAP. Get a plan! The only place that you are going is downhill. I know all about how opiates can make you act and feel. Since I've started taking suboxone I feel like my life is back. You should look into it.

etk- man that sucks but I glad to hear that you are now happy. I agree that suboxone is great!