One Shiva

Absolutely, psychedelics are a very psychological phenomenon.

 

Damn, this is a great discussion right now. It really pumps me up about tryptamines.

So what exactly defines a tryptamine?

Is 5-meo-dmt any good?

I don't know, i feel like it will be a while before i even touch any more psychedelics, but perhaps i need to start delving a bit into tryptamines. I'm tired of the mindy-ness of my latest acid trips. I'm really good at just observing and remaining completely calm lately, and i feel as if i've really matured with remaining in balance. But afterwards i'm always just thinking "what the fuck was that?". It's just gotten WAY too abstract lately. Utterly strange.

I just like the idea of just getting launched into higher realms of perception. Like there's no time to have a good or bad trap, it just fucking happens to you so hard. It's like going on the Millenium Force (for those of you familiar with Cedar Point). And salvia is like this too, but i get the vibe that DMT isn't so demented like salvia is.

But i mean i don't really know too much what i'm talking about. I've only smoked DMT once, a very small amount, but it did blow my fucking mind. It was basically getting locked and loaded for takeoff but never really launched.

It'd be sweet if tryptamines were the next counterculture drug of our generation. You're at this fucking cosmic ass concert and people are ripping DMT left and right and launching into hyperspace and experiencing Christ Consciousness. I get epic visions.

 

if you're "tired of the mindy-ness of your latest acid trips," you might wanna with PEAs a try. they are generally thought of as a more clear headed trip, where i don't think the same is true with tryptamines, which can come with considerable "mind-fuck" (i have limited experience though, with just mushrooms)

 

Yeah, the 2cs I've done are pretty clear headed.
On t7 I looked FUCKED up though. I couldn't see where to walk in my hallway cuz of one of those little "night light" things you plug into sockets had blinding tracers going all across my vision so I couldn't make out the floor or the wall.
That was a great trip though, extremely euphoric.

 

I took oen shiva on my first acid trip. Good times.

 

why is mushrooms considered a tryptamine and not acid?

 

From the very little ive read on it LSD has a tryptamine molecular structure but also a phenethylamine structure as well, So it can't be strictly categorized as a tryptamine.

 

yea, i never thought of LSD as strictly a tryptamine, but it does appear in TiHKAL.
the "active ingredient" in mushrooms is 4-ho-dmt, a tryptamine.

 

Whew, I read pretty close to the entire thread. Several thoughts:

There are many words written in this thread that are the IT, not about it.

My situation is similar to Pb's. Since tripping quite a bit for several years in the 60s and 70s, I've taken lsd once in the past 35 years and that was 27 years ago.

Returned a few years ago, with cacti, bark products, and (thank goodness!) RCs.

If someone offered lsd I'd probably take it - to have in case I get cancer or some other slow-goer. But, now? I'm not ready. Too heavy (for me).

Two weeks ago, in a New Mexico wilderness area with a friend who's even older than I am, tripping on 2C-E, sitting where a little meadow met the pines ...

 

^ I do not feel rereading the thread, can you clarify what you mean by "the it, not about it" part.

Also 2ce is not exactly light stuff, some seem to find its intensity and body load comprabable or even stronger to that of LSD. I guess one of the only biggest differences is you have better control over your dosage with 2ce than LSD.

 

yea, that's the ONE benefit of 2ce over LSD - that you can measure your dose

 

a tryptamine is any molecule with the word "tryptamine" at the end of it, like Dimethyltryptamine. It's just a kind of molecular structure. Serotonin is a tryptamine, it's chemical name is 5-HT or 5-Hydroxy Tryptamine; this is probably why trypts can sneak in and squeeze into serotonin receptors. 5-meo-dmt will remove stains from carpets pretty well, but I find it doesn't work so well with red wine, that's just my experience though. I might need to increase dose or scrub harder/longer?

what is christ consciousness and what is the relationship between tryptamines and it?

 

Christ Consciousness = Buddhahood = LSD Consciousness = Tao

Full Vividness; Full Influence; Full Happiness; Full Willingness to Flow

 

Tryptamines smell like old people and plastic.

 

People telling the truth vs. chatting.

 

tryptamine - 1. a naturally occurring compound found in both the animal and plant kingdoms. it is an endogenous component of the human brain.
2.series of compounds containing the tryptamine skeleton, and modified by chemical constituents at apporpriate positions in the molecule.

their are tryptamines that will treat hay fever, there are tryptamines that will kill weeds, there are tryptamines that will make u trip

 

yes this site in general has a good number of people who know their stuff but I find a fair amount of threads where I feel like a psychedelic dr. Ruth.

 

So is lsd not a tryptamine? Since it is diethylamide?

Christ consciousness or Buddha consciousness or whatever you want to call it, is only a name to describe someone who has awakened or realized their divine nature, and lives from that level of realization. In a trip you wake up to that reality, but it seems one always falls back asleep when the trip is over. What shall really wake us up?

 

lsd is actually an ergoline. lsd shares molecular structure common of both phenethylamines and tryptamines. it's often grouped with tryptamines because it's mode of action in the brain is more similar to that of tryptamines.

 

I may be wrong but I believe LSD actually contains the entire tryptamine structure ALONG WITH a lot of other things which make it fit equally into the "tryptamine" family, or, if we differentiate based on the added (significant!) differences, the lysergamides/ergolines/ergotamides/namegame.