ok, who's not here?

Everybody dies, but not everybody lives.

 

Nobody dies lol

The only medium to experience reality we have is this moment

Death can never occur in this moment (if "you" were dead, there would be no moment for reality to exist in)

If there is only ever this moment, and death cannot occur in this moment, I'm not sure exactly what there is to be afraid of

 

the next moment.

 

This is a really confusing topic. Consider the cultists who killed themselves believing they were not dying, but simply transcending this plane. Is that suicide, because they physically killed themselves? Is it murder, because of misinformation on behalf of the leaders? Or is it truly a transcendental transformation, because they overcame the largest instinctual fear we have?

And frankly, death is just a label for something unexplainable. Like religion. Or like trying to tell one who has not been changed by psychedelia what a trip is like. I agree with Writer in that I believe you cannot truly prepare yourself for death; much like you cannot truly prepare yourself for psychedelics (regarding First Trip. After the first plunge, preparations can be made so that you Are ready.) We may find that they are also similar in that you go in Expecting Something, and it turns out to be Something drastically different. So, like with psychedelics, when It thinks you're ready, It will come to you, and in the meantime, we can only pursue worthiness.

 

You mean THIS moment?

 

The one after this moment.

 

painful ways of "dying"? (substitute your word of choice)

 

Oh, THIS one

Certainly nobody wants to experience pain. But you experience pain every day, and I'm willing to bet that for 99% of people, the most pain they experience in their life does NOT occur on the day they die. But nobody runs around with a "fear of pain" (atleast, nobody I've met), and people do run around with "fear of death"(literally everyone I've met). Why is that?

I believe it's because death represents the unknown. The ironic thing, is that we're LIVING in the unknown right now. You don't actually know what you are. You have an idea of what you're like, and what you are theoretically made out of, but nobody ACTUALLY KNOWS what they are. Death represents the inevitability that one day you're going to have to face the fact that you don't know what you are, and spent your entire life solving problems that didn't get you any closer to knowing what you are.

 

I am

 

you were missing the...i think, therefore, i am.....Or either i just misunderstood everything that was said before...If so i feel like a hugh asshole and would like to apologize haha

 

Even before the thinking, there is the I Am.

 

xd

 

And what's before I am

 

ahh...there has to be one constant unchanging entity in the universe that alway was and will be. What that exactly is we don't know so we call it God for lack of better understanding.

i mean, some people believe we came from gases or a big bang and I won't argue but something had to be there first. Whatever was there first is probably easiest defined as God.

Some find god hard to believe in because we have societies perception of God and to many he is a male type white haired all powerful entity. I think this picture makes it easy to believe for some and easy to reject by others.

I think what god is really surpasses all our understanding at this time. I mean, imagine trying to explain a computer to someone 100 years ago and they would think you're possessed or crazy!

i think God is like that. We have no idea what God is but almost every society here on earth admits there is a God. Perhaps we all have a god shaped vaccum in us like Pascal said. We go through life trying to fit things in the space but nothing will ever really fit right (material things, money, etc.) except God.

 

I think it's fantastic that a thread that started as a negative announcement flowed into a philosophical round robin.

 

yea, it's the nature of this forum lol

 

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