offspring and sublime

What about stuff like Madness? I think they were earlier. I have the feeling that process of combining ska or reggae with pop and/or punk started already in the 80's and can't really be credited to a 90's band. But if you know some good stuff that wouldn't be around without the influence of bands like Sublime I'm interested to check it out anyway

 

Sublime, yes. The Offspring, no.

 

I agree with most of this though, prefer roots reggae over Sublime any day, but sometimes it's nice to listen to a song or 2.

 

I can appreciate a song or 2 of Sublime for sure. But especially at someone elses party when it is one of the better things (unfortunately) thats being played

 

Music history was the angle he was going for.

I like Rage Against the Machine better, but in defense of his argument, I think he was suggesting Sublime's portrayal of American life at the time was a very accurate, relatable commentary that had some parallels with what The Sex Pistols did in the UK. I live in California so perhaps he and I have some bias there, as certain songs like 'April 29, 1992' which are about the Los Angeles riots may be more directly relatable to me, although some of the racial commentary and view of corrupt law enforcement in that song is probably relatable to many. This brings me to a point in a comparison with RATM, I think relatable commentary on how everything outside of your control in your immeadiate life is going to shit and summing up with an optimistic "Love's what I got" is more relatable to the common person than songs about the military-industrial complex and "They rally round the family with a pocket full of shells" and particular incidents of social injustices.

I'm not trying to downplay Rage Against the Machine's impact either, in fact in many regards I think they are underrated. They've made me aware of social injustices and that can be a very powerful, impactful thing in its own right but I do think they often delivered from a poetic-intellectual standpoint seeking to inform the listener rather than Sublime's standpoint which are anecdotes mostly to relate to.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ShgqBDzLw"]The Offspring - Self Esteem (live) - YouTube

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKfOmGraHuQ"]The Offspring - Why Don't You Get A job (Lyrics) - YouTube

one of my favorite songs they sing

 

Night boat to Cairo!!!

 

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Interesting fact, they recorded that album in a crackhouse. Haha.

 

We can even go back to the 70's with The Clash combining Punk, Reggae and even pop sensibility by the time of London Calling (i.e. Whiteman in Hammersmith Palais, Guns of Brixton) but I do think Sublime added elements to their music that made it all their own, like incorporating hip hop djing elements for instance and more accessible while still retaining some grit. The Sex Pistols didn't invent playing 3 note chords at a fast, bombastic pace... yet still are often credited as ushering in a new sound in music.



Slightly Stoopid (their newest album Top of the World is really quality) and Pepper are two bands that immeadiately come to mind of having Sublime influences.

 

This aint hitlers master plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XINAJ7jgg6Y"]Sublime - Same in the End - YouTube

 

didn't realize this was an old thread... i basically posted the same thing a year apart... weird.

 

It is weird lol.
I ressurected this thread a few days ago almost exactly two years to the day that i created it. i have no idea how i even remembered this thread or why i decided to search for it a few days ago.

 

nope. i listen to foxamore and sage, amathestium and mary youngblood. asia nico and lillypad. i listen to julia ecclar and eccentric. i listen to cosmic wobble and left over salmon. i listen to trains and birds. i listen to clocks and refrigerators and cooling fans. i listen to synchros and servos. i listen to the thoughts of humming birds and the poetry of sub atomic particals.

 

When i hear sublime, I always think of my most favourite punk video, Subzero:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--dmP-vy1iA"]SUBZERO - Higher Power (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube


As for Offspring, Americana is my favourite song, killer bassline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96gZ_yptUNk"]THE OFFSPRING - Americana (live) - Rock Am Ring 2012 - YouTube

Edit: Wow, they sound shit live nowadays