Occupy Wall Street Movement Spreads Across the World!

Discussion in 'Occupy Movement' started by Aerianne, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. lillallyloukins

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    yes that's us... Christopher Wren's St Paul's, hasn't been shut since the war :D my tent is at St Paul's near the steps... It's cold but worth it :) Its not just shut for Sunday service... It is shut, period... We have been asked to move away peacefully on Monday... Im not budging... They'll have to carry me off :) general feel good factor all around here :)
     
  2. SpacemanSpiff

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    lol..that has to be the one because they did say something about not shut since the war

    next time ill look at the people closer
     
  3. Karen_J

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    I decided to pay a brief visit to downtown Charlotte and investigate for myself. The situation is not good. It appears that one local businessman has hijacked Occupy Charlotte for his own personal gain, and nobody knows what to do about it. This is the kind of leadership that the Top 1% believes in. :mad: Occupy Charlotte literally needs to protest against itself. :(

    I don't see that they have much choice other than to change their name to something like Occupy Meckenburg County, and start over. But nobody is ready to consider that yet.

    Remember what I said about the privilege of leadership having to be earned? This is the kind of thing that happens when you skip over that step.
     
  4. NotSuchAnEvilBunny

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    That was not my intent, I slightly misread your post, my apologizes. I was not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out the media is owned by the same exact people we are out there in the streets demonstrating against. To except any sort of fair reporting is naive not to mention contradictory to the preconceived narrative they are pushing.


     
  5. skip

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    Yeah, I'm about halfway thru it. I'm not sure I need all this rehashing of what we know already, although I like the way this guy grills people with finely-nuanced questions.

    I'm glad to see some of you participating in the Occupy protests!

    It's fantastic for us to get firsthand reports from people on the streets, camping out!

    And yes, when I went to our local protest last week I could feel the energy. It's long overdue!
     
  6. skip

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    This is what you missed in the 60s. It was like that everywhere there were hippies.

    They are integrating many of the 60s protest strategies into the Occupy movement, and apparently avoiding some of the problems back then. Lessons have been learned, and that is very good to see!

    Of course credit does go back to Gandhi (peaceful non-resistance) at least, if not Christ (shaming the money lenders, do unto others), and of course Buddha (non-violence, karma, right-thought, right-action).

    The movement is inventing it's own process and tactics. The social networking alone is a fantastic recent innovation, but things like the people megaphone are a great way to protest the insane laws that are used to suppress dissent.

    I see the movement moving in the right direction at this time. The organization is growing stronger as the movement gets bigger. And now that it is world-wide, people can learn from Occupy movements in other states and countries. The best tactics will prevail as people test things out.

    Governments have been preparing for this a long time, setting up their spy apparatus on every street corner, online via websites like Facebook, monitoring every phone call, email, click we make, every word we post.

    They've been arming themselves with the latest technology used to suppress dissent. They've got the MSM in a tight chokehold, dictating what can and what can't be said about events. Coordinated propaganda has already been making the rounds in order to discredit the movement and dissuade people from joining it. I'm seeing that all over the MSM and even on this website. Psy-ops are busy these days.

    And of course they have the infiltrators, or should I glorify them with the words "private contractors" already embedded with the protesters, so keep your eye out for them. There are a number of ways to spot them, but I'll leave that for another post.

    Things are not going to go they way they think. At some point the repression becomes too much for the oppressors (police, military) and they turn on their masters. Fortunately, that kind of scenario is still a long way off, and hopefully cooler heads will prevail and significant change will come once the 99% have had their voices heard and heeded.
     
  7. Aerianne

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    Yeah - "Agent Provacateurs".
     
  8. Aerianne

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    http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?6344-How-to-Identify-an-Agent-Provocateur

    Is it coincidental that someone in this thread sent me private messages telling me they agree with OWS but were concerned that it was disorganized, lacking a leader, etc; also saying that they were telling me these things because it was obvious to them that I am part of "the core group" of OWS? (Which isn't the case.)

    I think not. I'm not naive to these tactics.

    This ain't my first rodeo.
     
  9. Aerianne

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  10. indydude

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    LOL I'm sure they do their own signs. This movement isnt typical. Think outside the box.
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Actually, that's what I am doing.
     
  12. skip

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    I've yet to see it... You're in a box of your own making.
     
  13. Mothman

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    We have an occupy movement here in Columbia SC but I don't know what to make of it. I drove by on my way to work and there were some people playing kazoos, an accordian and skipping around looking sort of silly. The feed I've been following shows them having a zombie dance party made up of maybe 6 people dancing to Micheal Jackson's thriller. I don't want to hate on the local occupation here but I just feel like it's not as serious as it should be. In fairness to them I have not visited these folks out there so perhaps I am missing something.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZiRSQ3v5Ww"]Zombie Dance Party at #OccupyColumbia - YouTube
     
  14. ChronicTom

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    I isolate and seperate those two, in the hopes that it is enough to get the point across...
     
  15. Mothman

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    The Charleston group is supposed to arrive in Columbia tonight to combine their efforts so perhaps it will have more substance when that happens.
     
  16. ChronicTom

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    Ok, apparenlty it didn't work...


    You sit back and watch from a distance and pass judgements based on that?

    How about you actually go and talk to some people there and see what they are really doing and present your own ideas of what should be happening, instead of sniping from hiding?
     
  17. skip

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    Considering that these people are LIVING ON THE STREETS, that's right, spending 24 hrs a day there, not just coming and going to work, of course you're going to see a whole lot of stuff unrelated to the protests, or perhaps just letting off steam or getting some exercise.

    You can't be in protest mode 24/7, you can't be serious 24/7 either.

    What you are seeing is FREE PEOPLE, acting FREE. Judge them all you want, but I bet they're having WAY MORE FUN than those ppl going to work for the BIG BANKS and other BIG corps.

    When you get a lot of FREE PEOPLE, being FREE together, it is unlike most social settings where people are expected to dress and act a certain way in order to be accepted. Conformity is NOT happening in the Occupy movement. That is why they can't agree on a lot of things, unlike other movements where you must not only agree on a platform, but sign a document vowing to conform to their way of thinking.

    And that's what all these naysayers continually complain about. They say it's going nowhere because they haven't got a single issue to focus on.

    THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT! There are so many issues related to the corporate governance of America, that nobody can find just one issue to rally around, nor one demand to focus on.

    But what they are doing is spreading a message of discontent about the status quo that is reaching every corner of the globe.

    The solutions to the problems they raise will vary according to locality. And they're pioneering new ways to govern, by first establishing their own form of self-government, using a General Assembly to help focus on issues and solutions.

    There is a LONG WAY to go yet before anything concrete comes of this. How long did we protest the Vietnam war before it ended? About 10 years!

    How long did they protest for civil rights before blacks got some measure of equality on a national level? About 10 years!

    How long have gays protested for equal rights including gay marriage? They started in 1969, and it was only this year that gays can come out in the military, but still no gay marriage. That's 40+ years!

    So those who say the movement is over, have no idea how these kinds of social movements progress.

    And this one is already far more advanced than most in the course of just a few months! So we should be celebrating this incredible opportunity to change society.

    And yes it's social change as much as economic change that is needed. People are just now beginning to realize that Social System itself is the issue, not just big banks, government, and corporations.

    Just wait. Time is unfortunately working against us, since more people enter the Poverty Zone everyday. There isn't much time to find solutions before the bottom drops out, the dollar sinks big-time and people lose faith in the system and start to rebel.

    Our gov't must respond quickly to the demands of the protesters, once they firm up. Otherwise things may get dicey.
     
  18. Aerianne

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    Below find excerpts from the article "Throw Them Out With the Trash: Why Homelessness Is Becoming an Occupy Wall Street Issue"
    by Barbara Ehrenreich http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/23-3

     
  19. ChronicTom

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    And Im pretty damn hungry actually..
     

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