Obama IS Osama [proof]

esentially, you believe either 1 of two unbelievable things.
Either what i am suggesting can be true, or
this unbelievably lucky man [osama] has evaded the biggest most powerful country with virtually unlimitated resources that ranges from sattelites in space, entire military surges on the ground, to greedy assasins or even Mercenaries. [osama's bounty has been up to 50 million USD].

it comes down to what you would like to believe. i believe i have made my position clear.

ps. one thing i haven't made very clear, there has been that "rumor" [for lack of a better word] that 2001 osama didnt even look like previously unknown osama.
in 1998 there was a assasination attempt on osama's life. of course, it failed.

 

So either everything is as the government tells us - or he's Obama - no in between?

 

what would be the in between? half truths ? obviously that would obscure the REAL truth even more because its easier to hide. if you are able to see past the half truths that would pretty much nullify anything the government says; which means its definately not what the government says.

to simplify it further, you ask yourself, "does the government lie to US? do they have the potential to ? can they cover up what they lie about?" the answer is yes.

just for future reference, an easy way to cover up anything would be to have a important person in a high profile case #1 in the media spot light. or have a celeb die like what we saw with micheal jackson lol. that would take alot of attention away from anything.


the "in between" is pretty much what is. if obama is actually osama, it doesn't matter much anyway as people are too [dumb/stupid/busy/naive/ignorant] to see past the half truths, and wont do anything about it. right ?

 

have you guy seen the NY scare picture?

it sends a pretty clear measage, the president can do anything.


The presidency above Our Liberty



there is no positive measage to be sent with this stunt, my first thought was the measage "big brother is watching you wall street".
then i thought about a rogue stunt preformed by some one who maybe trying to warn us.
or a maybe mister osama wanted to see what "his" hijackers saw.
we will never know the truth, maybe only a half truth.

 

So, our only options are:
-believing fully in the government
-believing loosely founded accusations based solely on two thing's appearance
-and confused ignorance
Do you realize how stupid and illogical that sounds?

Do you believe in reality?
Do you believe in absolute truth?
Are you actually seeking it - or are you just stirring the shit-pot of partial truth you claim to hate?

 

The in between would be that they're both bullshit. No, I don't trust the government, I don't doubt we know (or could easily find out) where Osama is. But what I cannot understand is how you went from "government is lying" to "therefore Obama is really Osama." ??? I don't follow how you got from conclusion A to conclusion B.

And yes, I'm sure Michael Jackson has a lot to do with this. Why is it that everytime some celebrity dies, people have speculate about who "killed" them...As if celebrities are immortal or something. My uncle died of a heart attack last summer--I don't recall anyone in my family blaming anyone for it. People die. Why should MJ be any different?

All this crap about "truths" and "half-truths" and "untruths" and "lies!"...give me a break. You're just tossing the word around to make yourself feel intelligent. I don't have all the answers, but guess what? Neither do you. So STFU and get a hobby.

 

how can i not believe in reality ? i live in it.
the reality is all three options you stated can apply to each other.
its not only these two things, its the whole collection of circustantial evidence. such as the war itself was oh so benificial to certain persons and groups, we never seem to have actually found the prime suspect [osama], focus was diverted from he prime suspect to Iraq [a country that had nothing to do with 9/11]. then obama just happen to "come out of nowhere" and be our "saviour" from the bush years. Obama became the biggest fad since ipods, his face was everywhere, everybody loved him just because he was black and spoke in a pretty way [i guess, i think he sucks as a speaker, to many "uh"s]. and now, what is he doing ? sealing the deal to end the US as we know it.

 

So....?? How does this show that Obama and Osama are the same person?? You still haven't shown any evidence (let alone proof) of that. Obama didn't just come out of nowhere....He was in the Illinois senate before he ran for the US senate. So you're telling me a state senator dressed up in make up and costume for a video to scare the American people after he coordinated planes flying into NY?? Or was it the other way around? Did Osama dress up like Obama for the past 46 years? Did he fool Michelle and his two daughters? Or were they in on it too? I always knew that little Sasha was trouble....

If you don't like Obama, fine, that's a different issue. But you can't go spouting off outrageous illogical claims and expect people to believe you.

 

the way i see it, the real osama could have been dead even before 9/11.

the "conspirerors" needed a scapegoat to launch a war for ultimately globalization [which is sill in the process].
they blame it on some dead dude who is [as they say] known to dislike the US. get obama to play dress up [because he looks similar to osama] say some stay that Americans would intepret as a hate for America itself. when in fact, he dislikes western corporations and the stranglehold they have on the world, but Most if not All Americans do not know anything about. which is still true to this day.

i have been reading up on osama recently and in my reading i have noticed alot of what he has said seems to have been designed to either incriminate him, or be used as hate fuel against him. when in fact he [to me] seems to be a smart man. if he is obama, that means he is esentially a double dealer.

and the "conspireors" screwing with the general sheeple.

 

So then if you believe in absolute truth, you must agree that just because you think one of those two things is true, doesn't mean they are the only options.
For all we know they could both be completely different actors, right?
Or Osama could have never existed..

You can make assumptions and accusations of anything.
If you really care about the truth, which I REALLY don't believe you do, you should be digging into this shit - you should eb looking at more pictures, considering things such as:

I'd focus on that last sentence if I were you.
And to add to hers - you can barely see Obama's palm in comparison to Osama's in that picture.

 

did you watch the youtube video ? and watch osama's gestures.



obama's left hand, and i will put it in the OP as well.

the dotted line work both ways, for and against my arguement. the dotted lines cover some of his hand lines.

 

What I would like to see, to consider the hand analysis complete, is a clear picture of each's hand, with and without the lines.
Now, this doesn't go to say that I will consider the two faces, any better, as I see many differences, just as Strawberry pointed out, and I'm actually really bad at recognizing differences in faces (always get semi-similar actors mixed up, get people confused when two people look alike in a class or job I'm at, etc.)

 

the more i look into Obama the more shady he seems to be.

the bottom line is, you know that slogan he used "change we can believe in", that was a lie. and apparently he's been lieing alot, along with some shady policies and actions.

 

So, basically you don't like Obama?
Gee whiz, the lenghs people go to diss people they don't like.
I have to say, this is quite extreme.

 

basiclly i dont like being lied to. i wouldnt really care but this guy has the power to take my country and turn it into something else.

its not even he who has the power, its the people controling him, i dont like the people controlling him. the people controling him are not the American people.

 

If you are a typical American...thank fuck for that.

 

hehehe... Honestly, I thought the o.p. was just posting a goofy conspiracy...

Thumbs up for actually being serious about it!

P.s. The lathe is in my brothers shop.
I previously used the pic for a "gotcha" thread on a Right-wing site that I occasionally flame.

So sorry Styve, I really wasn't tryin' to fuck up your thread,
I just didn't think you was serious.

Interesting conspiracy though...kinda sorta...

ZW

 

Conspiracy theories tend to bury the truth even further - I find it's much more strong to just say "something is up" instead of stirring controversy that detracts from the real issues.

 

Like I said, osama has no earlobes.

Or is Obama wearing Ferinegue ears?

 

couldnt they just be related somehow? brothers... cousins? why must we be so extreme with the ideas here, its much more plausible for them to somehow be related, even if not biologically then culturally or something else entirely... I think the extremity of the op's fixation with them being the same person has lead us astray from something that may be very interesting