Not all fat people are slobbish mammoths...

You get your vital proteins in there eh?
Could you not get superior protein from fresh meat?

Dairy is all bad. You can argue with me if you want, but I know what the fuck I am talking about, do you?

Cutting down portion sizes and exercising a bit more is thoughtless advice.

You need a serious plan to lose weight. Portion sizes will get you no where. You can eat only a small block of cheese and a small piece of milk chocolate (with refined sugar added) for breakfast lunch and dinner and still be awfully corpulent.

When you say "a bit more" what do you mean? Burning fat is much harder than burning calories. It is easy to injure yourself exercising and it should not be gone about willy-nilly.

The food you eat is more important than exercise.
You don't need to workout more than 20 minutes a day 3 days a week.
You DO need to eat healthy if you want energy and less health hassles.

 

WRONG.

20 minutes of work-out, 3 times a week is NOT enough. You should have at least 30 minutes of what they call "moderate" work-out every day. Moderate work-out include activities like gardening, swimming, taking a walk, etc. The food you eat is important, but exercice is more. It shapens your body and keep your heart, bones and articulations healthy and strong.

I know a few thin couch potatoes who eat healthy stuff but never do any sport. Result? They're out of breath after climbing a few sets of stairs, their knees hurt and they're sweaty all over. Sure their good eating habits prevent them from any weight gain, but they're far from healthy. The best is having both a healthy diet and exercice enough. Enjoy yourself, take good care of your body, you should be fine.

I should re-post here something I posted on another forum about the same subject, talking about me and my sister's case. It shows how habits are more important than someone's weight:

"My sister has always been super-skinny and me always chubby, even as toddlers. My parents were really careful about what I was eating and were encouraging me (not to say, force me!) to do sports while they were letting my sister eat tons of fries, chips, pizza, whatever, drink litres of soda and sit on her ass for hours watching TV or play video games. We both kept our habits as adults.

Our silhouettes didn't change, she is still skinny and I'm still chubby. But she now has to take meds because her cholesterol and sugar rates are too high... and she is only 25. As for me, my cholesterol and sugar rates are normal, in fact I'm perfectly healthy and in shape."

 

Those healthy eating couch potatoes will outlive the junk food eating athletes.

So your sister ate junk food and now has healthy problems, and you ate healthy and don't have any....how am I WRONG again?

i don't see how you lump swimming, gardening, and walking into the same category.
I don't count walking as exercise, but sex does count (if done right).

I mean breaking a sweat for 20 minutes.

Genetics plays the major part like it or not.
Maybe you could climb more stairs than me, but I can easily adapt after a week or so of training. I can easily get in shape because of my healthy eating habits.

For example I have not ran a mile in 7 years (back then it was an 8 minute mile but I did not run very often just accompanied my sister sometimes) and probably run an 11 minute mile. I could get that down to 8 minutes in 2 weeks of training, and down to 7 in another week. I am genetically a natural athlete though and eat very healthy (no dairy or refined sugar for starters).

My main point was about dairy btw.

 

I approve for dairy, we shouldn't have any. It's not intended for human consumption first of all. We are the only species drinking the milk of another species, is it normal? I don't think so. For people worrying about lack of calcium, there is plenty of other sources of calcium, some are even easier to assimilate for the human body than cow milk.

 

Okay, well then we agree. About exercise well...okay 20 minutes for 3 days or 30 for 7...either sounds good to me.

You definitely don't want to be a sloth. I am just saying you can't eat bacon and sausage cheese omelets all day long and run 10 miles and think everything is cool.

 

Indeed! Even when running 10 miles a day, it's not enough to burn all those extra calories and saturated fats. Having a hamburger or fries once in a while isn't so bad, but you can't only eat that and think you're gonna be OK. With the burger, have a salad instead of fries and drink iced tea or carbonated water and you have a healthy tasty meal. For food, they main keys are balance and variety.

As for putting gardening and walking as "exercice", I was as surprised as you to see on a (credible) health site they were considered moderate physical activities and were enough to bring/keep someone in shape. I think the criterias were to name activities everybody could practice without any risk of injury, like for kids or elderly people.

It seems stupid, but those are challenging for someone who's not in shape. When my sister started to exercice after having her high cholesterol diagnostic, she decided to go for a walk every night after dinner. At first, it was difficult for her to walk around the block. If she was climbing a hill or stairs, she often had to stop. Now she can climb the hill with no problem and isn't out of breath after climbing my stairs when she visits me. She's still not ready to do mountain bike with me though, but her physical condition improved dramatically.