nomadic tribe

Discussion in 'Communal Living' started by blinkin, Sep 3, 2004.

  1. sonik

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  2. Flutterby

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    my sentiments exactly! hence the reason i am not on the bus! sonik, you are a very perceptive human being! ;)
     
  3. sodabandito

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    Well, that's all a bit too bad, but human nature usually ruins good times that go on too long. The story was still pretty entertaining, and probably one ya'll will be telling for years to come. I hope that everything works out for the best for everyone that was involved.

    Peace, positive energy

    Brian
     
  4. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    wow...

    what happened is during the night we met this dude who wanted to come on the bus, kevin had already planned to drive back to long beach though I wanted to get drunk on burben street,,,,hmmmm I wanted to get drunk in new orleans??? whats wrong with that. im not sure what getto you mean but we did go to drop off this dudes girlfriend and to see if her friend wanted to get on the bus, but since they perferred riding rails they didnt stay, the next morning as I awoke hungover as hell I had folk who sayed they were my friends and had my trust decide to leave..so there I was alone in longbeach missisipi, without any explanation at all, ....the highway teaches transition, me and bret and dixie went back to new orleans, and met up with some cool folks who joined up on the bus, but alas the weed that was given to us mike took not us as well as the weed, I guess they had justified that becasue they made jewlery for the BUS they should take it leaving me with three pieces of hemp, also I guess it made some sence to them to leave the bus taking the BUS's food, leaving absolutely nothing.

    im not sure why this happened, though it is not the end of the road, it is only transition we have some really good folk on the bus now, we did before though I think they just needed to figure it out for them seves...everybody chooses there own path I just wish they would have told me what was wrong first.

    as for bieng selfish erin may I remind you I eat less than anyone else, the only thing I buy more of is coffee so I can keep driving, I have shared my bus my home offered a way and a means to live free to see what so many only dream of experiecing ...the open road.

    Im selfish because I built a bus and wished to share it with others? or maybe because I fast so others can eat...oh I know maybe its because I let people to continue stealing from me...

    either case, we have five of us on the bus now, everyone of us good folk
    the money no longer is held by me but this british folk slim,
    this is a community in progress and it does change rapidly though if folk do not like the person who I am.....they dont have to be around me, I would rather be surrounded with folk whop actually do.

    my request though is that if anyone decideds to come along, be prepared to make three pieces of hemp jewlery a day...it pays for the bus!

    realise that what we are given, belongs to not ONE individual but the bus and the community that is in it

    Please if you decide to leave thats fine just please tell me a little in advance, it really hurts me when people are good to me to my face and wicked to me behind my back, dont take something thats not your because some how you think its cool so decide you have ownership over it.

    erin you seem to be the same as those who left , your all nice and supposedly till you find a reason to throw things along with a mob....


    tell me, would you have traded your experience for anything in this world????

    you and I both know what the answer is
    if you dont like me thats fine if you do thats fine as well, Im just a man trying to find a way to live free , trying to have good folk surrounding me,
    everything does happen for a reason....and I am learning my own lessons as well as everyone else.

    the highway child is about the highway
    its about love
    its about meeting new people and seeing new places
    its about community and growth
    its about change
    its about the highway
    its not about any one persons idea
    though about one ideal
    living on the highway

    peace and my the universe bless all of your way
    Im sorry to those who didnt get the most increadable experince from this....oh wait everyone has gotten that and are getting that now.
    peace
     
  5. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    Damn..I need a ride out west but not until the end of the %^$% semester.
    I probably wouldn't do well on a hippie bus anyway..am a control freak.

    Hey are you the andrew that used to be on another bus a year or 3 ago....it was named something about spirits. Was just thinkin about it 'cause the yearly a-camp road regional pretty sad version of a rainbow gathering is starting in MS in another few weeks...he used to go thru there,
     
  6. blinkin

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    nope sorry, Ive had four buses all called the highway child, well actually the first one was caled highway blinkin :)


    peace
     
  7. blinkin

    blinkin Senior Member

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    oh I just wanted to post one more concerning erins last post


    troubled soul???? I really dont think you understand me at all...I am at peace with myself, I live how I want to doing good things to benifit myself and others, my karma is good and my soul is at peace

    oh yeah Id trust eclips with many things except maybe my xbox.....

    despite the attacks on my charachter . ,my motives and even my very soul
    I am still in good standing with the universe, my self , the highway and those whoa re on the bus now.

    I have never conciously done anything to upset or hurt anyone,

    I havnt stolen from anyone, though I have been repeatedly stolen from

    and just to totally clarify

    I was extremely hurt as those who I did look at as my family and my friends left because they didnt like who I was
    I dont hurt anyone
    I dont take without giving back to anyone who gives us anything
    I go out of my way everyday to help people around me...

    I live what I say I am who I am and I act what I speak
    ask the question if you are as you say you are???
    thats not an attack erin its a defense

    maybe next time you want to travel you should go to club med!!!
     
  8. sonik

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    communication breakdown!
     
  9. blinkin

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    I think so ....it just sucks, I was really happy with my family who was unboard at the time....

    transition happens and I have learned a lot...hey man its hard to get something like this going..
    peace
     
  10. roadgypsy

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    Hey Drew

    Ok well i read all the post and you are right i would keep my dogs.
    You know this all sounds just like the reason the whole group of us back in the 80's and 90's avoided the rainbow gathering. THe drama you know all the love and peace talk can have other energy behind them and alot of times do. The reason i have survived 23 years on the road is i listen with my ears and waatch with my eyes and feel with my mind and if they do not all jive i starting probing why. So far i hear second hand talk from everyone not personal experience.
    And even if there was well you never know what anything will be till you go try it. One thing i will say is This is Drews bus not anyone elses he built it he owns it and even if he is trying to have a semi commune he is still captian of the ship. IF people have a problem they should sit down and talk about it as a group. I have always found it funny how when people open there homes to hippie or road folk within a month anything of value is gone the house is trashed and little or no help is offered. Life is not a free ride and anyone with me would find drew probally alot better then me. I give a person a chance to have a business and a good one and helpt them be independant but they have to put the effort into it and i require respect for my van and whereever i am staying yes i have rules and when someone breaks them depending on what it is either they are gone or tey are watched more carefully. As for the whole thing about the 2 who ripped off stuff and sent e-mails which i got one of myself all i can say is if that did actually happen there would of been no hugs i would of handled that probally quite badly to rip someone off in thier own place and fuck with there ride is like raping thier woman to people like me and all i can say is the person would remember what they did forever and so would almost anywhere they went.
    For once this happened to our group and we just made copies of this guys face and passed them everywhere we went. I am not saying who did who or if someone did anything but i am saying what i would do if i was disrespected in that way. I find very few times when more then 2 people get together the ego's clash the insecurites flare and so few people know how to think before they react and what happens drama. Well i have a few posts here and i have taken people with me and i never got robbed or direspected but i never found anyone who wanted to put the effort into making a life for themselves. Maybe one day my attitude towards humanity will change but for now i can say that if not for my doggies i would of been insane along time ago. As for you drew i do not worry about meeting up with you and i will not take what anyone says happened or did not. I would not be alive all these years if my senses where not good and i am the first person to mention when my ears and eyes and spirits views of a person differ and i would tell you. I love the world and hope everyone in it lives the life they want and be happy but i am far from the love love kiss kiss hippie stereotype i am a cynical realist and though i do not angry easily i do not let drama enter my life.
    I still have a feeling we have alot to talk about and maybe we will have some earth shaking conversations and apithanies in life who knows.
    I will say this i get so tired of all the love and peace and hippie double talk i have heard in life i am not directing this at you andrew because we have talked but you know the whole hippie scene has had the same double talk and politics as the government they just mask the words better. I have seen to many people talk love and peace and then hurt everyone who lets them in thier lives. I do not think people mean to be this way i think people just wish they or try to believe what they are saying. You know the more i am around people the more i want to live in a cabin and raise shelties. I used to be a lot more helpful and caring for others but over the years i ahve gotten alot less patient with people. My mentor told me one thing 22 years ago and told me all through my years and it took 20 years for it to sink in finally and that is everyone is exactly where they want to be some people like misery some poeple like complaining in whatever case if someone wants to change there life they will fight and claw and work towards making there dreams a reality. I am far from the best fighter for what i wanted i tend to procrastinate i can be compulsive obsessive and i can get in sad moods sometimes that just makes me want to curl up with my dogs. But with all my faults i went from living in a back pack to a car to a few vans to a parcel truck to finally a rv with all the things i need to finally living in motels and camping when i want. i went from giving blood plasma and working jobs hear and there to flea marketing where i made jst enough to maintian the rv and keep live comfy to now making what i did in a month or more in a day.
    I did all this with my self made limitations and if i could do it anyone could do it because i am no better or worse then anyone out there.
    well i guess i vented all i could. Drew i look forward to meeting you and i think we are going to find a mid pint between both are beliefs that may improve both are lives if we can open up and talk. Me my life is an open book i have few people who would talk bad about me who know me and my dogs would lick anyone to death who tried to. Well it is 12:29 and i am beat
    i have me a beautiful doggie keeping my pillows warm for me and lookng awfully cuddley so nighty night all.
    P.S. i would be so amazed if anyone who felt i offended them or they got angry read this letter very slowly and maybe read it again. ANd very last thing i did not mention anyone personally this is a letter based on my experiences on a whole so anyone who feel the need to be angry will be the ones who are exactly what i am talking about. Funny huh my mentor taught me that the hard way WE ONLY DEFEND THOSE THINGS WE FEEL GUILTY OF FOR WISE ENLIGHTENED PEOPLE CARE NOT WHAT OTHERS THINK.
     
  11. blinkin

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    hahah road gypsy
    this dude tonight just said the same thing
    about feeling guilty for there own acts and reaction justifying there own ways...

    man thanks
    I needed a metor a man who road the road for years before i wAs

    thanks

    goodnight and peace unto your journey
    you have no ida how much better I feel after your letter


    let the universe bles your way


    THE HIGHWAY CHILD
     
  12. sprout

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    Eh...Shit happens right? For some its like this and for some its like that but everyone deals with it and moves on right?
     
  13. Flutterby

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    drew, perhaps i was a little unclear, you aren't selfish in a material way, and your not a troubled soul in a bad way either. i was not trying to attack, or put you on the defense, i have a love for you and the rest of my purple fam, that i can not put into words, it is so deep, and so strong that i know all of our paths will cross again, hence the reason i wanted to leave the bus on good terms, i was so torn drew! i wanted to continue on because i had hope that things were changing, we were on good terms for the frist time since i got on, and i had hope that things would continue on that path, but i guess they didn't. that doesn't change the fact that we (me and you) aren't at odds again. i didn't get off the bus becaus e i disliked you as a person, i had personal issues back here that needed my attention.i make it a point to never burn any bridges that i have crossed. i've done it my whole life, i'm not gonna change it now. you were selfish in the fact that you didn't communicate and compromise, and share the way i hope you are doing now with your new group, as a community. i always understood that the bus was yours, and you were the captain. i also understood that you had to make decisions that i wouldn't have wanted to make. but things weren't very community oriented, there was a hint of a dictatorship or monarchy or something in the air. there were a few times that we wanted to make you find a frog, all i was trying to do was to let you see how easy it would have been to turn our family into a more open loving community instead of a tense ride down the road. silly silly motherly me! everybody walked on egg shells around you drew. i told you about it. you realized it. as for being a troubled soul, if you were able to drop all of your masks that you have admitted wearing to me, and be the pure true raw drew that had the most amazing conversation with me that one night at the road side park where kev cut brandi's hair, then it wouldn't be an issue.
    like i told you in the pm, i would love for you to come through arkansas. i'm dying to see you, and meet the new group. i've been talking about the bus, and a few people were intrigued. they wanted to know what they needed to do to get on, and when you were coming through. i don't smear the bus, i do talk about how it was the most amazing experience of my lifetime, and i am very greatful for the oppurtunity.
    i hope to see you soon. how many people are on the bus now?
    right on sprout, things happen, and people do move on.
    hopefully, peole realize that i am what i am, i do what i do because it the most loving way for me to be. i never double talk, and i do my damnedest to better myself everyday. you are never done growing, and it is never to late to change something you don't like about yourself.
     
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    ok well considering i am soon going to be involved with you andrew i am going to add my thoughts to this post this way you know me and maybe a few people may get something from it who knows i sure think i will i need to vent somewhere.
    As for Erin and yes i will mention you specifically after the last post i read of yours i thought i may add a probally not wanted oppinion. the post before you wrote you put eclipse hersay about what happened in and made your own oppinions based on someone else it is just a fact i read it carefully to be sure.
    As for eclipse the letter he sent me was to done just to screw up anything drew had going only an inmature ass would do that. If he had problems with drew he could leave and be done with it but he used drews actuall pasword to send letters out in his name saying he was a maniluplating person. In my specific letter i knew it was bullshit because Drew could find companies online to buy from he did not need my sources. Drew Why are you explainging these things you have nothing to explain those who believe it will stay away those who arent sure will be weary that you are working so hard to explain.
    There are plenty of people who would join your bus why care what others think. I just have to say all this love talk i hear in one breath and then backstabbing sounds like some homacidal barny the purple dinosaur . No i am not talking about Drew here. Some people really need to wake up to reality
    if you want to live in either world the world of the civilized folk or this world of the roaming gypsies you need to keep an eye open the weak are eaten the strong survive mand i am not talking of pysical strengh i am talking of mind.
    You help those who are trying to get up and let the ones who just sit there and whine stay right there for they want to be there or they would be getting up. This is life i had to make a hard choice years ago and decide to not have whiners and people who just always had sad stories of life around me i would like to help everyone i meet but some just will suck your energy dry. Drew there is no real way a bus can be a commune in the way people think now in the true gypsy lifestyle they all had thier own wagons and they traveled together each wagon was a voice in the council. This is your bus you have the roght to have ti the way you want. If these people have t make three necklaces a day to be part of it well geesh so hard huh.
    well making 3 necklaces give you a bed and food the rest of the time is yours to do what you want other then doing whatever chores need to be done everyday. I suggest people find side ways to make money on thier own not drews money not the busses money but your money Drew and i are going to talk about ideas i have that may make things smoother. ut this bus will not be able to be a commune in the sense you may think nor will it be a dictatorship. if YOU LIKE THE MAN THEN GO AND OF YOU DO NOT DONT GO.
    Dont bitch because it is not what you want or expected. Go get your own bus and do it your way and again watch how people talk about you.
    well geesh that was my vent for the day.
    JEFF
     
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    i am not attacking anyone! i was sending drew some clarification, that you obviously missed as well. as for backstabing, that just isn't my bag. i loved my life on the road, and as i stated before, i respected the decisions that drew had to make. drew, as a captain of the road, did an amazing job, however, when it came down to the family and community feel on the bus, there was something lacking.
    this thread was started to invite, and document.
    it has turned into drama and bullshit.
    drew you are more than welcome to stop here, the kind folk want to meet you, and see the bus that was my home.
    roadgypsy, i hope that our paths someday cross as well, i think your perception of me is a bit off, however, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and i'm not really telling anyone not to get on the bus. i am all for it! it's life altering. 3 neckalaces a day is not that big of a deal at all, generally you end up making more just because you can...it's fun, and a great way to get creative.
    walk the path that is set before you....
     
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    Erin that post was for the best of yours it was simple and plain you know before you post or say things specially if the words are not yours you should think of the whole picture if eclipse wanted to say that then he should of posted it himself. You sound like a nice and young person it took me many years to think about all sides before i did something.
     
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    hey whats going drew this is jimjam from your email just saying whats going on and wandering when u will be around the ohio area. or where i can meet you on the road after the end of october. well love and peace Jimjam
     
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    HI Erin, Eclipse, Jason and everyone else from the bus family. Lots of Love, I Will Be in Arkansas, and Knoxville.
     
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    Hi Andrew, lets clear things up okay? First off, I am sorry about that email, it was immature and impulsive of me, I am a bit calmer now, and coming out of shock, so lets tidy up a bit.

    I have been reading the 'threads?' you call them? and want to clarify. As for leaving us in the ghetto, that had nothing to do with New Orleans that was about the day you left us in Alabama, in the bad neighbourhood with no where to go, while we were harrassed all night,and worried sick about you, old news.

    As for us leaving, it had nothing to do with you getting drunk Drew, we all expected that of you, it was the crude, aggressive, disrespectful behaviour you came back with that night. It was you telling us to Fuck off repeatedly and threatening kevin, it was the disgusting way you and your new friend were acting and the danger and uncomfort you put us through.

    Kevin was nervous as hell driving that bus for his first time out of the city, but you guys kept yelling in his face and falling all over the driver area of the bus, pissing and hanging out the door way while he was driving and shaking. When Mikey and I asked you to calm down, you told us to FUCK OFF.

    YOu asked Kevin not to give you anymore of the groups money to spend on booze, but threatened him and ganged up passive-aggressivly with your new buddy. When you finally manipulated your way to the money, you promised only to buy smokes of course to come back with booze. When the group spoke up to you we were again told to FUCK OFF.

    When you passed out in the door way, and we were on empty we needed your help getting deisel and we needed gas money, AGAIN we were told off when we were frustrated and panicked, trying to wake you up. We were all shaking with anger and nervous energy. It wasnt fair Drew. It was an awful night and we were all on edge and nervous trying to help kevin find somewhere to park. We ended up at Nasa Space Centre and got turned around by the security dude, it was creepy.

    As for leaving you alone in Mississippi, we left you with two other people, and we were feeling bad about it until you woke up being an asshole to us. YOu wouldnt let us explain ourselves Drew, you wouldnt let any of us speak our minds would you??????? You didnt want to hear it because you knew that you had treated us unfairly.

    As for the weed that was given to mikey, the 60 dollars that was given to us and the 40 to you, itwas just that. There was pot and money given to us and pot and money given to the bus (and richard seperately) That guy who gave us the money We had met while you were passed out. He knew we were going to get off the bus and wanted to help us, he went to get us smokes and groceries so we could get by, and YOU stole OUR food. We left all "your" food on the bus drew and you stole from us. As for you GIVING ME THIS LIFE? HUH?????? what is that Drew? Yes you lead me To BC, how much credit do you expect me to give you for that? I walked a beautiful path without you, and am not damned to bad karma now all the sudden because you are gone. WHAT IS THAT? It was very nice to be on the bus, but it is nice to be off as well you know?

    The hemp jewellery, Yes I tried to take the stuff that I made, you blew all the groups money the night before and I wanted us to profit from the work we put in. Ive always made more then my quota, and thought it was community run and not Drew run, so we wanted to take a bit of what we put in. Not even just that drew, we have been friends for 7 years and I thought you would be a bit more understanding and willing to listen to me when I got off the bus. Boy was I ever wrong. Im sorry. I wish you all the best and am really hurt and sad that our friendship has ended this way. May your journey lead you into truth, and away from fear.

    I apologize for the long post and strange vibes everyone, Drew really is an amazing person, and the highway child is a beautiful girl, but sometimes friendships get a bit intense on that bus. Sometimes bounderies are crossed a few too many times you know? Hopefully lessons are learned through it all and positive experienced are gained. They were for me. Good night everyone, sweet dreams,
     
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    A Quick reply from Krazy K, Well Drewbert, where do I begin? All that stuff you said to Brandi and the rest of us the day we were leaving was only a reflection of yourself, and those tears you were crying werent for us at all they were only for yourself. I was feeling so choked on that bus because of all the BS Drama, that was happening, and now Im free from what you want and from what you need. Thanks for the ride, now I can tell an asshole Phoney from someone real, like Erin, Eclipse, Jason, Brandi and yes even mike, whom I didnt love at first but really appreciated the way he'd stand up to you when I couldn't. Mike your alright. You say you have a high IQ, I didnt see any proof of that, 2 books published and a third on the way, my ass, master of 4 martial art forms, you can have my left hairy nut on that! I hope you have fun with your new friend Bret the hitman fart rummaging through trash on bourban street for beer, you two really do make a good couple, seeing how your an ORDAINE MININISTER maybe you should marry the two of you. Sorry for the hostility, My last memories of you, were ones of hostility towards me, and the rest of your "family"
    Our lives lead different paths, through the garden and through the grass, when I look into the sky blue, I will remember all of you (even you Drew)
    And to the rest of you good luck, and to the ones I know that are real, Eclipse, Erin, Jason, ben, Mikey, Brandi, Lyndsay, Jonsie, Little Jenna, Jodi, KATIE, all of my love, you truly are family. I hope your not blushing eclipse. see ya all soon.
    p.s. drew take a shower and dont drop the soap. Get rid of all those ugly hemp things in your hair, you look like a retard. Keep on bussin' your new group will see the real you as well and realize that the rest of us weren't fucked. one more thing, Im just riding the wave, I dont need to lie to get laid hawaii style.....like you Drew,
    Krazy K is back
     

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