no more weed for me

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by puffed up in my ford, Feb 28, 2011.

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  1. slappyman

    slappyman Member

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    I know the point at which I can and can't drive after smoking. I think most people do. Don't blame the weed, just be more responsible in your use. Glad to hear you weren't seriously hurt.
     
  2. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I went to school with a guy who will NEVER be able to have a drivers license, due to his epilepsy. I guess that's how they do it in GA.
     
  3. LoneDeranger

    LoneDeranger Trying to pay attention.

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    My general rule is not to go behind the wheel until at least two hours after my last toke. I'll wait longer if I have to drive any real distance or in high traffic areas.

    There's no doubt that judgement and reaction time are affected by weed. It's just not worth the risk.
     
  4. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I have a friend who doesn't have a license, either, because of his epilepsy. But I think here if you go so long seizure-free, they'll let you have one. But that poor kid can't go a couple of weeks without one it seems, let alone 6 months.
     
  5. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    I thought the OP was also on pain killers for something?... am i wrong in this assumption?

    Either way.. just because you used marijuana under bad judgement doesn't mean everyone does.. just because one person drinks and goes home and beats his wife doesn't mean everyone does
     
  6. wetsocks

    wetsocks there's no one driving

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    i laughed way too hard at that
     
  7. Popularity

    Popularity Senior Member

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    Damn dude that sounds rough. Maybe don't smoke before you drive?

    literally...not trying to sound like an asshole there
     
  8. spookie

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    I am really surprised at the .....craziness...on this thread.

    Yes. Marijuana should be decriminalized. No, one should not be allowed to smoke while driving. Yes, people get into wrecks sober, stoned, whatever...but to separate signal from noise here...

    I do not, by any means, get the feeling that the OP is anti-marijuana. It looks to me like he takes responsibility and now realizes that smoking while driving is not the best idea for him, and apparently he never knew that before this wreck. So should we leave it up to the individual whether or not they should/can smoke and drive? Obviously not. Would it be more responsible as pot smokers and as human beings to agree that there should be laws regarding smoking marijuana while driving? Yes.

    This is not about blaming things on pot. Or whether pot is good or bad. Whether we like it or not, marijuana effects people differently. Whether we like it or not..some people SHOULD NOT be driving while stoned...and whether we like it or not..those people who SHOULD NOT be driving while stoned may not be the ones who are most capable of making the decision or coming to the realization that they shouldnt be driving while stoned...which we see here.

    If marijuana was federally decriminalized and there were laws in
     
  9. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    I'm sorry that you can't smoke pot and drive. Maybe you don't smoke pot as much as some people, and as such, don't understand how it effects heavy users?

    Maybe you need to re-read the original post, you'll see he says he's not sure weed should be legal after saying he was so stoned he wrecked his friends car.

    If I get drunk and have a crash, it's my fault, not the alcohols fault. The law even takes this into account, you may legall drive if your blood alcohol level is below a certain point. I recently blew a .09 after drinking a 40 and half a beer. Someone just a little bigger than me can drink a 40 and go legally drive, but it's not a great idea for most people, though SOME would be just fine. It's about knowing your own body and mind. Take your MADD bullshit somewhere else.
     
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  11. spookie

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    Wait..I smoke pot? Wait...I dont smoke as much pot as some people? I dont remember mentioning whether or not I smoke pot, because, my own pot smoking or lack thereof is not relevant here.
    I did read the original post, and I did see that he said he was NOT SURE whether pot should be LEGAL, I do not, however, recall him being anti-marijuana...just confused about whether or not marijuana should be legalized/decriminalized based on his own experience, which is a natural thing for a human being to go through when theyve experienced something like this. In fact, this is exactly what he said: "i was for legalization butnotsosure now.i think if it was to be legalized i do think it should be treated like alcohol as far as driving goes anyways."

    I dont even recall ever saying that it is marijuanas fault if someone gets into an accident while high. Ohhh wait..thats right..because I didnt. My post was all about how we obviously cannot trust some PEOPLE when they are stoned behind the wheel...not because they have made the decision to smoke pot, but because they have made the decision to smoke pot and jump behind the wheel of a car without being fully aware of themselves (I like how someone earlier touched on the fact that self awareness also plays a huge role in something like this).

    Just as you said... "Someone just a little bigger than me can drink a 40 and go legally drive, but it's not a great idea for most people, though SOME would be just fine. It's about knowing your own body and mind."

    So should we trust "most people" to make the decision for themselves? Not in my opinion. I understand fully that laws put in place keeping people from smoking and driving are not going to keep EVERYONE from doing it, but it could keep at least a few people who shouldnt be smoking and driving in the first place and cant handle the two mixed together from "spacing out" and potentially hurting someone.

    Take your lame attempts at ad hominem insults somewhere else. No one here is saying that it is marijuanas fault. No one. So, your attempts to interpret my posts to fit what you wish I would have said..isnt working. I am not blaming marijuana, I would not even blame alcohol. However, heavy user or not, I do believe that if marijuana is decriminalized there should be laws in place regarding driving while 'under the influence' of the substance. This is not an issue that calls for your anger or your wannabe domineering attitude. It is just a matter of opinion, and one that I am not so sure why youve gotten your panties sooo bunched up about. I havent blamed marijuana, hell, I havent even said marijuana should not be decriminalized....in fact, I have said quite the opposite. Your anger is very misplaced....and I advise you look for an argument elsewhere...because from here on out I just see myself repeating things I have said because I dont care to change my opinion due to some angry teenagers throwing around assumptions about my own habits or non habits and misinterpretation of my words.
     
  12. RooRshack

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    If you're not going to say anything, gtfo.

    Your post is full of vague statements, many of which are incorrect, which you won't have to back up because if I attack one you'll say "well I just implied that, prove I actually SAID it"
     
  13. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    The real question is:

    Were you TEXTING while driving after getting puffed up in your boy's gmc?

    I'm just sayin...

    Just 'cause you made a piss poor decision and decided to get behind the wheel while too fucked to drive, weed should not be legalized?
    That's like saying zingers or hoho's should be illegal 'cause a fat ass has a heart attack from over-eating.
    Epic fail puffed up. Maybe you are not thinking straight, because it sounds like it was a bad wreck.
    glad you are okay...but get real.
     
  14. spookie

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    Very intelligent response.
     
  15. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Your own familiarity with marijuana is highly important, because you are making statements about it's effects and how traffic laws should reflect this.

    Also, I don't remember saying that you did or did not smoke marijuana, not sure what the butthurt tone is about.

    He said that it might be okay to restrict marijuana because he crashed his car. This is implying that marijuana is responsible for the crash, and not him, which is a rather clear (conscious OR subconscious) attempt to dodge responsibility, at the expense of an inanimate substance that can't defend itself against his implications.


    If someone has self awareness issues, that's a personal problem, not a marijuana related one.


    If someone drives in an unacceptable way, and is pulled over on suspicion of DUI, and fails a sobriety test, then they get a DUI. pretty simple.


    This is a VERY ironic, hypocritical statement. (also see below: "wannabe domineering attitude", "youve gotten your panties sooo bunched up", "angry teenagers throwing around assumptions")


    These laws exist, if you're intoxicated in any manner and are pulled over, you will get a DUI. Pretty simple.


    When did you say the opposite, could you please point me to it?


    I don't think so, you seem to want me to look for an argument elsewhere because you can't put together a cohesive argument that doesn't contradict itself, if not make baseless statements about what "no one" else said.


    Any questions?
     
  16. spookie

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    Oh my Gods....
    Remind me again what youre trying to argue with me about?

    You are continuously acting as if I have made this the fault of marijuana, which I havent...ive said on multiple occasions that its not about blaming pot.


    Youre not even making any sense anymore, lol. I just stated my OPINION...what is it that you are still trying sooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard to argue against?
     
  17. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Well we where talking about marijuana and it's effects on drivers, but then you dragged in all sorts of out of place personal insults and silly contradictory statements, and I felt the need to point it out.

    Not to mention point out that a DUI system already exists, and sobriety tests have been devised to determine if someone can safely drive in whatever state they might be in. I forget who, but we have a member here who's mentioned getting a DUI while totally sober, because he fell asleep while waiting for a train to pass. (it MIGHT have been duck?)

    So take your incoherent, ignorant ass elsewhere, please and thank you.
     
  18. spookie

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    What contradictory statements have I made? I have not made any personal insults, I have only "pointed out" the attitude that I have observed from you.

    Not to mention that in essence I wasnt talking directly about marijuana and its effect on drivers. I dont care what the effect is, or isnt...I still believe that criminalized or decriminalized, the laws against driving under the influence of marijuana are just and I dont see...a whole lot of need for change regarding them.
     
  19. spookie

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    You are sooo angry that its kind of sad.
     
  20. Nyxx

    Nyxx HELLO STALKER

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    Anger is an energy
     
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