No Kids By Choice

No problem man, it's a lot to read but it's good info on stopping human breeding and letting the earth return to its natural state. The name VHEMT actually stands for Voluntary Human Extiction Movement. Yeah, it's sad that we are far from reaching that goal.

 

It would take generations of gradual reduction to get down somewhere around one billion, which is a much more manageable and reasonable population figure.

 

Adopting is a great idea. I grew up in the foster system, and there are some great kids of all ages who just need someone to love them.

 

Another thing I'd like to add. Its funny; lately at my work girls have been getting knocked up left and right. There are times when I work on a crew with three other pregnant girls, me being the only one not knocked up.
And of course, with all this hustle and bustle and fuss over the soon-to-be born babies, I get asked, "so when are YOU going to have kids?"
"Um... never?"
GASP "why not!?"
"I just don't want them... costs a lot of money, a big burden."
"But... but... you have to eventually!!"
"Why?"
"Don't you want to settle down?"
"not really... I want to travel the world, go to concerts, parties, clubs, have fun."
HMPH "You'll have to eventually..."

I think this is passive aggressive bitterness because these girls (a lot under 20, one under 18) are already bogged down with the kiddies at home and I'm still young and can have fun.

 

Who or what is going to make you do it? Nobody ever has a good answer to that question.

 

usually they just respond that having kids and slowing down is something that eventually happens as a part of growing up. 0.0
Its sick. Its like as soon as you hit puberty, you're expected to get knocked up and breed. like a dog.

 

My husband and I have decided not to have children. Although our reasons are honestly a bit more selfish. We just want each other. It sickens me to see all the people with children who are like "ah...go watch TV - leave mommy alone" It seems selfish to bring a child into this world unless you plan to devote ALL you life to that child. I grew up being ignored on a regular basis, I wouldn't want that for my child. I don't have the time (or inclination to MAKE the time) to properly care and love a child.

I do have to say though I get really sick of people pressuring me to have kids. If I had a nickle for every time my mother has asked me when I am gonna give her some grandbabies...Grr! It's irritating how people will push there views on you like that. I mean I must be a terrible person since I don't want kids...What kind of Woman doesn't want to be a mother?! Give me a break. Why do people do that?

That's like my husband and I were together for 5 years before we got married. People were ALWAYS asking when we were gonna get married - It got to the point where I coulda HIT someone! Out of all of our friends we have been together the longest but were married last. I've already seen 3 divorces amongst our friends. I have been with Dave longer than my mother has even known her newest husband and they've already had 3 kids! (She's got enough kids of her own - I don't know why she wants grandbabies! lol) Besides my family reproduces like fucking Rabbits! Every single woman in my family over 14 has had a child except me. We've got grandbabies up the fucking Yazoo!

Wow... Mini Rant...sorry! lol

 

In other words, you have to do it because it's POSSIBLE. Why even have freedom if you don't make any choices and you do everything that can be done? It's brain-dead living.

And there are enough people who want to do that to take care of all the breeding that needs to be done for the foreseeable future. You were smart to think through that before it was too late.

Pushy control freaks. They are just plain rude and obnoxious. Don't you wish you could tell them all to go fuck themselves?

 

Yes... Yes I do. Besides that would also help with the reproduction problems! lol

 

From what I've observed from this is that the people that are having less kids are usually the more educated, intelligent, or otherwise a little better off. While a lot of poorer people and especially those in third world and developing countries are going full speed ahead. If that trend continues don't we run the risk of making that movie "Idiocracy" become a reality?

 

See post #4 of this thread.

 

I don't plan on having kids unless I can somehow get out of this oil-driven society. That way they can learn by observation how the world truly works instead of learning the truths of society. Raising children in modern society teaches them that water flows eternally with the flick of a faucet, that a chicken's value is only in $$$, and trash is of none of your concern because the magic trashguy comes by once a week.

This way of life separates children from reality, and the TRUE cost that goes into anything. They can grow up in an environment which reflects life and then make decisions for themselves. It's taken me 20 years to learn lessons that should of been learned by the age of 13, the journey of being born into an illusion and learning to see truth.


There's way too many lost children out there for me to add to the count. I'd rather take the "village to raise a child" approach and personally add some value to the already youth of society.

Plus, kids are a major drain on your time and resources. Less time and resources to accomplish what I really want in life.

 

I had a friend tell me he's against infant girls getting the rubella innoculation. He thinks they should wait until they are in puberty then they can consider whether or not they will want children. if they don't then they can get infected and become sterile naturally

 

That's a bad idea. I've had multiple friends that swore up and down that they did not want kids. Ever. Now, most of them are saying they want kids. Sterillity is kind of an extreme. Especially if you are just going through puberty and you don't even know what you want out of life yet.

 

I have no children of my own. I really wanted kids when I got married the first time, but the relationship was a bad roller coaster that ended in divorce. It would not have been healthy to bring children into that environment. By the time I got married the second time, my wife already had a daughter, and we mutually agreed not to try for more. I sort of regret not having kids of my own, but I also understand and respect the decisions I was part of. Having a stepdaughter isn't a bad compromise.

I guess I have two comments about the "environment" as described in the initial post. First, I don't think it's a good idea to introduce children into an unloving family environment. I see far too many couples who have children out of a sense of obligation to provide grandchildren to their parents, because it's just what married people do, or because they think the kids will somehow save a bad relationship. Children should be part of a loving environment where they'll grow up with a healthy sense of who they are. Second, perhaps more to the point of the original post, I do worry about overpopulation. I don't understand the need to have a huge family. I'd like to think people like me with no kids would balance out the effect of those who have 4 or more children, but the population continues to grow, so it appears that's not the case. The Earth can only support so many hungry mouths.

 

I don't think overpopulation is would be rid of if we try to solve world hunger.

 

i don't have any interest in reproducing, hooray!

 

Environmentally minded people should actually have lots of children because their children are likley to be environmentally minded and the more environmentally minded people there are the more people there are to lobby for environmental causes. If non-environmentally minded people have all the kids then there wont be many environmentally minded people in the world to lobby for the environment.

 

my wife has 2 sons,18,& 21(almost),I never had any interest in having any of my own.She's as fixed as fixed can get without a historectomy(sp?).I just try to instill good values on them.Some might say my values are a little fucked up,but in the end I'm the one who has to look at myself in the mirror & feel I did the right thing,& I try to pass that onto them also.