New Zealand to ban military style semi-automatic weapons...

Yes, pistol grips are more comfortable, and yes the military uses automatic weapons with pistol grips. But eventually you're going to have to overcome your cognitive dissonance on this subject and admit that a semiautomatic rifle is not an automatic rifle, and that a pistol grip on a semiautomatic rifle does not turn it into an automatic rifle or super gun. That's your boogieman, not mine. Like I said, you're paranoid when it comes to pistol grips.

Your second paragraph is an appeal to authority; authorities who, like you, can offer no evidence to show that a pistol grip on a rifle will cause more deaths than a rifle without a pistol grip. The truth is, you're just another obsessed person who confuses rifle style with rifle function even though the difference is obvious. And I believe that you would indeed get rid of your single-shot .22 if you thought that it was a military style weapon. I also believe that you will think it is a military style weapon when you are told to think it.

And I never said that you are a disgustingly deplorable person. You just made that up for dramatic effect. And even if you were a disgustingly deplorable person, that would not be the reason we would have nothing to discuss, as the reason for that would be that you can show nothing to prove that a pistol grip on a semiautomatic rifle makes it deadlier than a semiautomatic rifle without one.

 

You mean assault style weapons. Again with your confusion concerning style and function. This is that cognitive dissonance I've been talking about. The facts are not conducive to your conclusions, and so you simply choose not to see them.

 

Acting on behalf of the majority of its citizens is a government interest on itself. Certainly if it involves minimizing gun violence (like mass shootings)

 

I just hate seeing the lack of freedom in other countries. I guess there is nothing to be done about it though.

We must never let it happen here in America.

 

You do understand that every time you hear the term "assault weapons" it means "rifles with pistol grips"?

 

Not in the Constitutional sense of the term government interest.

Outlawing pistol grips on rifles does nothing to reduce gun violence.

 

I was responding to your post I quoted. Where it comes to gun restrictions that matter. I'm indifferent about pistol grips.

 

Omg what kind of gun has "automatic" written on the side? You sure it wasn't for children? did it have a orange nozzle? It's okay, you can tell.

Seriously?

 

That's cute..

 

Jesus, my disappointment must be like what a woman goes through in bed when she's expecting something more.

You sure that's not a starters pistol? D.. D.. Did it fire yet? did it blow?

Fired blanks I bet.

 

I dont think so, it's referring to their semiautomatic capabilities, not their pistol grips. How silly

And a lot of other gun control measures have been discussed but you honestly come off as a bit of an extremist, i doubt you're in favor of stricter background checks or any other form of gun control either, so .

I'm bowing out of this, there's only so many times you can argue gun control and i'm not in the mood to get roped into another debate about it. I'm just here to point out the dishonesty in your argument. Thank you come again

 

Well let's see here. You believe that style is synonymous with function, meaning that you mistakenly believe that a pistol grip changes the function of a rifle. I've asked you to provide something to validate your assumption that a pistol grip makes a semiautomatic rifle more deadly than a rifle without a pistol grip. So far, you've come up dry on that account.

A semiautomatic gun is not an assault weapon. An automatic rifle is an assault weapon. Assault weapons are banned. Semiautomatic weapons are not banned. Therefore, since you want semiautomatic rifles with pistol grips banned, you must believe that pistol grips transform semiautomatic rifles into automatic weapons, which is absurd. But then again, that shouldn't surprise anyone since you also advocate a nationwide sweep and confiscation of all handguns that hold more than six rounds.

 

No. An automatic or select fire rifle is an assault weapon. A semiautomatic weapon is not. But some fanatical people believe that a semiautomatic rifle with a pistol grip magically transforms it into an assault rifle.

 

So your argument is a semantical one. Cool.

Note to storch, I did not use the term assault weapon. I specifically said "semiautomatic capabilities"

 

Toggle Almendro said: "You do understand that every time you hear the term "assault weapons" it means "rifles with pistol grips"?"

You said: "I dont think so, it's referring to their semiautomatic capabilities, not their pistol grips. How silly."
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So, you were incorrect concerning your notion that my argument is a matter of semantics. You just said that an assault weapon is any semiautomatic rifle, and I corrected you. So . . .

 

*writes this down in notebook*

 

Toggle used the word assault weapon, thats his choice of words - and none of this changes my point, which is the fact that the issue people have with semiautomatic weapons is that their semiautomatic capabilities make it easier to commit mass shootings than with other types of rifles. It has nothing to do with the grips, or whatever inane point you guys have spent 2 years arguing

 

A gun restriction that "matters" would presumably be justified as serving a compelling government interest -- not because it was supported by a majority, but because it was about something that matters.