New War In The South Against Gay Rights

OK well since Kiprat hasn’t replied I decided to Google ‘gay brainwashing’ and see what it meant.

As far as I can tell it seems that anything that acknowledges the existence of homosexuality seems to be construed by some as ‘gay brainwashing’ and for some that seems offensive.

That to me doesn’t seem rational, reasonable or realistic.

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Now many of the views seem religiously based or motivated in that homosexuality is described as an abomination Leviticus 18:22

Well lets us go to a bit of script from the West Wing often called the Bible Lesson

[SIZE=12pt]"I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleaned the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be?" [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]"My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police?" [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]"Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7 If they promise to wear gloves can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]"Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]"Think about those questions, would you?" [/SIZE]

 

Cant help the feeling that now the gay marriage thing has been settled looks like we are grasping at straws.

Seriously, how many public toilets are in these counties, Who uses public toilets anyway unless they are really desperate.

As if this bill was ever going to get anywhere, and if it did, and who the hell is going to enforce it

 

Brainwashing means destroying someone's logical thought processes through nefarious means.
That can be by presenting dishonesty presented as fact. It can be via subliminals or marketing/advertising style trickery. It can be by bullying or harrassment. Or it can be by targetting those who cannot think for themselves eg children.

You're lowering the standard of the debate by claiming its about whether or not homosexuality exists. It is most certainly NOT!
Brainwashing is about pressuing people into accepting things they would not logically accept, if there had been a fair, honest and unprejudiced debate. It is also, for example about pressuring people into a lifestyle they would NOT have chosen, if the exchange of information had been free, fair and open.

There are many reasons why certain Establishment groups (and their deceived followers) are ramming an agenda down people's throats. Its partly a social experiment. Its partly because the elites thing they can benefit from mass homosexuality/transssexualism. Its partly to ensure they have a strangehold over much more pressing political issues (a "smokescreen tactic"), I'm also sure its to counter a coming realisation (by some anyway!) that we have done huge harm to our environment. That has caused much sterility, birth defects, cancers, homosexual tendencies AND "gender blurring" characterisics (eg effeminacy in males, "butchness" in females).

We're all susceptible to brainwashing or its "lite" form, "advertising". But whats happened is far more serious than selling us a brand of cola.
The fundamentals upon which our societies have been built upon since human time began are being airbrushed out. Moderate Christianity is being oppressed, there are even attempts by NON-Christians to REWRITE Christianity to accomodate a pro-homosexual/trans agenda. Thats just one example.

The fact is that males and females are defined by chromosomes and NOT by some form of physical self mutiliation and the harmful injection of hormones/drugs.
Attempted transsexuals do huge harm to their bodies by attempting what simply isn't possible. Many kill themselves because it is their mental illness that causes their desire to self mutilate. The families of these people suffer much anguish and feel powerless to stop the onslaught of bizarrely called "social justice warriors" who egg on their self mutilate and worsening mental illness. One of my neighbours was like this. A long history of mental illness, and various groups were sending him emails like "you do it girlfriend, become the woman you know you are" I mean what crap. Anyway, he had some surgery and ended up still male, but dressing like a female, but just a pretty gross one. The oestrogens and chemicals did massive further harm to his health and he began further attempts at suicide. To think that children are being targetted by basically extremism or repulsion fetishists is pretty outrageous. How would you like it if YOUR boy was beckoned into self harm, mental and physical illness and to make himself look utterly grotesque, instead of what would have become a good looking young man? Would you like it if he killed himself rather than had the physicological treatment he needed?

There's plenty of examples of brainwashing in action. I don't like the way the word "gay" has been taken from children's books and given a totally new meaning.
Why are kids given books like "My Two Dads". NO-ONE has "two dads", why lie to them? Why are Christians and the vast majority of people harrassed, even threatened with legal proceedings for expressing their views, views that virtually ALL society embraced as a cornerstone of civilisation for millenia? Homosexuals account for a tiny proportion of the popln, transsexuals a tiny proportion of that. So why on Earth is it portrayed as so "popular" and "cool" in TV, films, music etc.
And why do some (thankfully not all!) homosexuals in music, dance, television apply pressure to young males to give "sexual favours" for career advancement. This means that these professions have a HUGE proportion of homosexuals, even tho they are a small part of the overall population. I know of numerous young males who had this problem as actors/musicians. Much less so with girls.

NC had a fair vote, it made its decision. But extremists are open about why they want to bully NC. This is economic terrorism, this is hate crime against Christians, and normal people. Imagine if people said "right no business with San Fransisco"! They call it "liberalism" but its not. Its tyranny and fanaticism against the majority.

Why is it that celebrities and sportsmen and even whole countries are harrassed for expressing the view that MOST people believe?

Why is it the evidence of dioxin and PCB pollutation causing gender blurring/homosexual tendencies is never in the "liberal" press? Its all available from the WHO, EU and the like. So why are people intimidated against speaking the truth? Are Monsanto and the like rather nervous about something? Imagine the law suits for all those cancer, birth defect and sterility cases! Or are people saying these multinationals don't have the power to skew the media, politicians and special interest groups? Hmm...

This is a lot like Nazi Germany. People were given buzzwords and relentless media onslaughts. But they never looked at the facts.
Someone in the media flashes up buzzwords "sexual freedom", "love", "equal opportunities" and people's brains have been hacked into agreeing OR more often, being afraid to challenge it. Many people lose their jobs over simply expressing what most people think.

I remember a TV programme. And outside a school was a large billboard, a camp looking pair of males and the words "America's turning gay". What right do these people have to "sell" a lifestyle to children like they are selling chocolate bars?
We don't sell porn ie heterosexual acts to kids, why sell homosexual acts to them?

In another case in England, kids were given a very unconvincing wannabee "transsexual" as their teacher. The kids (SIX YRS OLD) were utterly terrified after they told "she woke up one day and realised she was a woman trapped in a man's body". The parents all complained and said "our kids are being traumatised and all you are doing is yelling propaganda at them, we want to pull the kids out of the class but we can't". It turned out the man had been mentally ill for many yrs, even before his "trannsexual" episode. Having been egged on by the school authorities, he had surgery, which made him look even more ridiculous, which send him over the edge. And soon after, he killed himself. I mean its astounding that the school could be so arrogant and zealous towards little kids.


Its not a "war on gays". Its a persecution of Christianity, its a bullying of those who believe in family values. Its terrorising those who think their kids sexuality should not be overwritten by extremists.

Its always been a fundamental of society that there should be a privacy in regards sexuality. We don't commit sexual acts in the street, or infront of children. We don't discuss it with children unless the parents have permitted it. There's good reason for that. Children's sexuality is VERY malleable. Those who were sexually abused often become abusers in later life, or even enjoy being "abused" as part of BDSM. So it is wrong for powerful, zealous groups to promote homosexuality as "very popular" when in truth, only a small proportion of the population is homosexual.

And there is a bigger aspect. That of environmental factors. The brainwashing/relentless media drive is covering up this aspect. How can pollutants that cause sterility cancer and birth defects AND homo/trans tendencies be condoned? People say "we're gay because we want to be". Well no one is stopping them from being homosexual. But we prevent children from being exposed to any sexual lifestyle. We don't give them porn, gimpmasks, stripper costumers do we!! We only discuss the reproductive aspect and the safe sex aspect (if parents think its ok). Thats always been a fundamental of western values. Otherwise we have groomers, child predators harming their sexual and overall development. How many children say they are "sexually confused" ie worn out by a bombardment of promoting different lifestyles in the media. In the past homosexuals would often elect for treatment - treating psychology, or trauma or biochemical imbalances. Some then adopted a heterosexual lifestyle again, others a homosexual one. But now, we aren't even ALLOWED to suggest this approach in the media or in mental health treatment. Again - a form of indoctrination! Likewise, why on Earth can't we look at the biochemical aspects of it all? Do we just put our heads in the sand at the cancers, sterility and the like?

I have no problem if someone chooses to be homosexual. But I strongly disagree with the promotion of ANY sexually defined lifestyles to children.
is it honestly acceptable to get a 6 yr old boy and say "ever fancied being a gimp-dog"? Ofcourse not!
And I strongly disagree with a suppression of facts, evidence and open debate amongst adults.
THAT is why the whole matter has been twisted by "brainwashing".

And PS I'm NOT in any way a "Conservative". I'm actually a "Socialist". And I've always found that my view is shared by most people I come across, from all political parties. Once again, phrases like "liberal" are all part of the scams conducted by a corrupt political elite.

 

Pressuring people? Where the hell did that come from? You must have been listening to talk radio or Fox News.

Are you worried that your wife would rather be with another woman?

Yeah, a slim majority made a decision that some minorities should have their rights diminished, even though the US constitution says otherwise. Fuck that shit.

What is your state doing about all this?

Okay, somebody besides me is definitely drinking before noon!

 

Holy shit! What a load of nonsense!


oh c'mon Lynn, Karen, please, please just this one last time let me unleash on this mentally deficit person with railings of derogatory remarks and insults concerning his intelligence and lineage..

please.please,please!!
I promise to be a good boy afterwards.

 

:rofl: You know I'd love to say yes, but I can't. Let's just keep giving him rope, and letting him hang himself. Nobody could make this up!

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Kansas is now considering a bill that would award cash to school students who encounter a transgender person in a bathroom, to compensate them for emotional and psychological harm! :dizzy2:

 

[SIZE=12pt]Kiprat[/SIZE]

Ok you say you wish for an honest and evidence based debate yet your post is full of unsubstantiated accusations and biased opinion.

The brainwashing you talk about seem to be about what I said before that it’s been talked about at all, I mean you don’t like the way the word "gay" has been taken from children's books and given a totally new meaning, but why?

Just the sight of homosexuals seems to make you angry and lead you to think of sex and disturbingly to me you then seem to project that view onto kids - that if they see a loving gay couple that their only thought will be of what type of sex they perform (and your mind seems full of things like gimpmasks and gimp-dog which is even more disturbing).

Kids really don’t think in those terms and as long as they haven’t been taught to be bigoted they just see people be they gay or straight.

You also seem to notice any portrayal or hint of homosexuality and see it as sexual brainwashing but ignore the more prevalent portrayal of heterosexuality isn’t that then ‘brainwashing’?

You shout that is a lie for a child to call someone their dad who isn’t, but many adopted children in heterosexual relationships do that - is that lie a sin? I know many kids living in loving families that just happen to have same sex parents, to me that is the important think that it is a loving environment be it gay or straight.

You also seem to imply that it’s all an attack on Christian values but as pointed out many practicing Christians are gay.

 

[SIZE=12pt]Karen[/SIZE]

Well there is one way to pay for the college fees, given how expensive they are I can imagine a number of father’s planning on buying a dress.

 

I sure as hell my kids never come into contact with some of the extremists here.

Clearly you're as brainwashed as can be. Its like explaining to a Nazi why Jews shouldn't be gassed. I wonder what your next "crusade" will be after "toilets for trannies".

A very sad indictment of what certain political groups have turned much of the West into.
It all starts with the Orwellian phrase "political correctness". Of course you can't even see anything in that one.

Maybe its time to fight fire with fire in politics. Maybe the reticent majority should declare financial war on hotbeds of anti-family values. I can certainly understand why the normal folk of NC have had enough of the faux Liberals.
Whats the next one? "Gimp masks for gingers"? "Marriage rights for parent-child relationships"?

The mind truly boggles.. Have fun people, I'll leave you to do some research (yeah, like you'll bother...)

 

Ugh so much bullshit to respond to...i dont think I'll bother

This whole "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN" bullshit is seriously annoying - i knew gay people growing up and no it did not brainwash me into becoming a lesbian or a pervert. Jesus fucking christ.

Edit: to clarify, i might be a bit of a pervert, but not because i was brainwashed by gay people lol

 

All the pedo stings how often do they net transgender persons?

 

I already told you. You have to fuck your dog. Pics, or it didn't happen!

I had to look that one up. I guess I've been out of college too long. Those suits look like a colorblind version of Spiderman. Back in the day, guys preferred for me to wear a garter belt with mid-thigh hose and no panties, with or without a see-through bra. These new things don't look sexy to me.

How often do they arrest a trans for ANYTHING other than stupid stuff? I never hear about it.

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This morning, I had a quick meeting with my office staff about bathrooms. We had never discussed it before. No trans people here, and very few visitors, since we generally travel to visit our clients when electronic communication is not adequate. We have two rest rooms, with facilities for two people in each.

After only five minutes of conversation, it was obvious that we had two women who were not comfortable with using multi-stall unisex bathrooms, but none of the guys cared. So we're going to change the sign on the men's room to unisex, and leave the other one alone. Problem solved, no expense except the cost of a sign. The employees will keep using the same bathroom as before.

I wonder how many other companies have used this approach. In settings where no children are present, it seems to cover all the possibilities with a minimum amount of controversy and expense. Private companies here are still free to handle the situation pretty much however they want.

 

Kiprat

Calling me a brainwashed extremist just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t seem to indicate you wish for any type of open and honest debate on this subject. As does your seeming reluctance to answer the questions and criticisms of your views.

Large numbers of homosexuals were incarcerated in prisons and concentration camps in Nazis Germany and many murdered alongside the Jews.

The reason for the persecution of both groups was similar in that the Nazis ideology saw them as both ‘inferior’ humans.

It seems to me that your intolerant ideology seems closer to that of the Nazis than my own.

How do you define ‘the west’ would you prefer the kind of regimes in the Middle East that torture imprison and even murder suspected homosexuals?

How do you define "political correctness”, I mean if "political correctness” is opposition to bigotry and intolerance then why would any rational and reasonable person oppose it?

But how do you define ‘family values’. The same sex families I’ve meet seem to have the same ‘family values’ as do the heterosexual families I know.

It seems to me that your views seem based on an irrational dislike bordering on hatred that you seem unable to defend in any reasonable way.

 

Uh-----don't even think I'll start. Karen will kick my ass. Well, one thing--sickness is not always manifested in a physical way.

 

In 1928 there was an estimated 1.2 million "out" homosexual men living in Germany. As Adolf Hitler rose in power, gay organizations were banned and scholarly books regarding homosexuality were burned. Hitler's racial state ideology branded homosexuals not only as "parasites" and degenerates, but as enemies of the state. In 1935, the Nazi government significantly expanded the criminalization of homosexuality.
Under the direction of SS head, police drew up "Pink Lists", and embarked on a vicious crackdown on homosexual men and women. Many were sent to mental hospitals, others were castrated by court order, and 100,000 of these men were sent to concentration camps.The pink triangle... (like the star of david for jews)... was placed on the prisoners to mark that they were homosexuals. An estimated 55,000 were executed

Kiprat - I mean would you have cheered Hitler’s goons as they threw books like "My Two Dads" on the fire?

 

I can't wait for his next one.

 

Actually, I read at the first one and determined that this guy is an ignorant bigot beyond changing. Therefore, I just scroll thru all the other LONG posts he makes without reading and this thread discussion goes much smoother and amenable. I only know the small quoted nonsense that others are contesting, so my original assessment of him is verified.

BTW, Bruce Springsteen really was Born in the U.S.A.

(Sorry, Karen - hope you didn't have tickets)

 

I have a question.

In Australia, a country vastly superior to every other country. When it comes to public toilets. We just always have a third unisex disabled / every one else toilet. Why not use that, its pretty much always cleaner than the mens toilet ( men are pigs when it comes to toilets) and there are also hand rails, which come in handy when receiving a blowjob or you want to try a weird sexual position

 

building codes dont require it yet..

 

A lot of newer buildings are built with those. They were originally intended for parents with young opposite sex children, and almost always have diaper changing tables. Progressive businesses are going this way without any kind of a mandate.

Last time I was on a train, I noticed that Amtrak has changed all their restroom signs to unisex, as the airlines did long ago.

In an older building with thick brick or stone walls, adding a third bathroom can be next to impossible.