New improved life plan....

no its not. isulting a people is different from isulting a nation.

 

Chris has a valid point, dragging nationality into it massively devalues your (already feeble) arguement

 

Right, so you yankees are going on exactly waht your government tells you? You live in an enemy state of cuba, as for these people that escape, ever noticed that most of them were cpaitalists?

Ie they didnt like socialism, and as sutch werent interested in living in a country trying to mvoe toewards it!

 

this just goes to show you that socialism doesn't work. hmm...i wonder why they're running away from their "stable" economy? seriously, if it were working , they would have stayed. no matter what their preference. use common sense here...

i don't "go on what my government tells me"...because they don't seem to give two shits about cuba.

 

that wasn't my point.

 

whatever, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. to validate my point:

human rights violations: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/humrts.html
political prisoners: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/prison.html

now try and explain why people are fleeing this government. oh, and let's not forget that castro happens to win every election.

cuba is a fucking totalitarian communist state...and the government got power through force.

EDIT: in case you need more proof

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2886.htm

sounds very "free", doesn't it?

(eat that, simple liberals)

 

silence is golden.

 

Dude I just said that draggin someones nationality into an arguement devalues it, how the fuck can I not know what i'm talking about?

 

LIKE FUCKING HELL IT IS

this is the most hypocritical thing i've heard you say
SO WHAT..DO YOU THINK THAT AMERICA IS ONE BIG THING THAT JUST DOES EVERYTHING ON IT'S OWN?
HELL NO YOU DON'T.

You know bloody well that it's people who do this shit, and you act like every American is this FAT disgusting lazy stupid slob.










and hugh...don't even get me started on this "draggin someones nationality into an arguement devalues it"

 

What is that other than desperatley trying to get rid of the red menace in cuba for the past forty yrs?

 

if someones russian I can probably argue that they are cold in winter when they go outside.....

 

bottom line is: if you think cuba is a "free" country, you're wrong and i have proved it.

 

not free in every sense of the word, but its definately nto poverty stricken like the media would like you to think

 

fuck that, I never believed anyone was poverty stricken, and to my knowledge the american media doesn't portray it that way, but they are not free, hell, if it weren't a totaliarian shit hole I'd totally go there, roll cigars for a little while, they have people who read the newspaper to the cigar rollers, that's fucking awesome, but the fact that there are people imprisoned for doing what YOU ARE DOING EVERY DAY (having a different opinion from the gov't and talking about it) kinda puts a damper on the thing...

 

yeh, i dont agree with the way castro runs it, and i was actually adressing BassistRead, as you clearly know what your talking about. Im just challenging the standard media spun version of cuba

 

Quest techie, you do know that there are people that have publically disagreed with castro before and not been impironed as you seem to beliee everyone does? But as i say i dont agree with everything that goes on there

 

well maybe you should talk to little ewan, he seems to have a few media spun delusions himself (even if it isn't MASS media)

 

can we agree to disagree or are we gonna keep replying until we're replying witht he same arguments repeatidley?

 

mine are supported by human rights organizations, yours are supported by fervent nationalists..... hmm......

 

Dude, what the fuck on both accounts??