new grow op need help.

Discussion in 'Grow Room Pix and Journals' started by kensinko, May 8, 2009.

  1. Rocklobster

    Rocklobster Senior Member

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    Look likes they need a very mild feeding to me coz at one month ya should be at the 8-12 inch mark. Take it thats a 6500k light which is in the ball park and would need to be on for 18 hours a day. What temp you keeping them at? 70-80 for young plants. Cant see any perlite in ya soil mix thats a must have.
     
  2. kensinko

    kensinko Member

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    the leaf tips are starting turn light at the tips i dont know to much sun light?
     
  3. kensinko

    kensinko Member

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    i had a problem with short ones i woke up one morning and there was ant hills in the potting soil so i flooded it and the ants kept falling through the holes....... 3 days later no sign what should i do in case they come back
     
  4. kensinko

    kensinko Member

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    it would help if people actually would respond
     
  5. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    here, im actually going to explain all your problems and solutions to you finally (seriously, how do 3 pages of replies not actual provide any help?):

    LIGHTING:
    1) you have 2 lights in there. You need at least 4 right now, and will need at least 6 pretty soon. this means there is a lack of light energy for growth
    2) your lights are really far from the plants. they should be within 2-6 inches of the plants. this means that the light is less concentrated by distance (inverse square law)
    3) I dont know what a 65w blue-spec bulb is, but it doesnt sound useful. switch to DAYLIGHT or COOL WHITE flourescent bulbs (energy-saving curly CFL bulbs). get the 23w (100w equiv) type.
    4) the second (closer) bulb is emitting a yellowy glow, likely either incandescent (old-style houshold bulb) or a warm-white flouresent. Either way, switch to a DAYLIGHT or COOL WHITE flourescent bulb (energy-saving curly CFL bulbs). get the 23w (100w equiv) type.

    CONTAINERS:
    1) they dont have drainage. poke some holes in the bottom, and bottom edge and put it on a tray. this will drain any excessive water that could otherwise pool up at the bottom and destroy the roots.
    2) ditch that tinfoil on the folgers tub. all its doing is blocking airflow which would help to strengthen the stalks

    WATER:
    1) Ive never heard of using carbonized water. It may help, but ordinary tap water will be just fine. If your water is especially clorinated, let it sit overnight to evap. the clorine before use.
    2) allow the soil to dry substancially between waterings. the containers are a good size, and the roots will have access to water, even if the top looks dry. wait until the top inch of dirt is dry to touch before watering (probably takes 2-5 days)

    NUTRIENTS:
    1) The nutrients you have are not very good for vegetative growth. switch to a fertilizer containing primarily nitrogen in its ratio (5-1-1, 10-2-3, 20-5-3, etc)
    2) dont use fertilizer until the plants have about twice the current number of leaves, or youl fert. burn them.

    PLANTS:
    1) one plant is VERY stretched. this is due to the limited amount of light, so it is trying to get really tall. (in nature, this tactic is to get it out from the shade of other larger plants)
    2) somehow your smaller plant was topped (had its growing tip removed or damaged), causing it to grow out 2 branches instead. If this was on purpose, it was too early. topping is a somewhat uneccessary practise, especially for you first time. otherwise, it was some growth defect that caused it.


    the bad news:
    both your plants are doing poorly, and are at a point where they may be irreversibly "unhealthy". If you have access to more seeds and time, I would honestly suggest starting over again. By following the above advice, you should be able to get a plant with as much foliage but proper health/porportions within 2 weeks of sprouting.

    The good news (ish):
    despite your plant's poor growth, it is not hopeless. my first time i made many of the same mistakes, resulting in a horrifically stretched plant (probably worse off than yours). however, with a few months of improved techniques and care, it became the beauty that is in my sig. (unfortunately, it ended up dieing because i had no drainage on its container, and i overwatered it one weekend-hence my advice). Your other plant is also salvagable, but may take a little more time to pick up the pace if its still using much of its energy to heal the wound that the topping caused.


    follow my advice, and youll see a marked improvement in the health of your plants. It took me some time, practise, and mistakes to improve my grows. Every season, my plants have become healthier and heavier, and so will yours
     
  6. kensinko

    kensinko Member

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    ok that you im useing the daylight bulb but it gets to hott in there the leaves dry out..
     
  7. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    flourescent lighting creates relatively little heat, so a bit of ventialation should keep temps down.
     
  8. yonosoymedico

    yonosoymedico Member

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    I liked your response klondike, it was thoughtfully structured, good job
     
  9. shiva_master

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    I would recommend burying the stem with GOOD soil/mulch. Up to the first branch. This will cause more roots to grow and more growth will occur. Probably something due to ph levels or lack of nutrients is suppose.
     
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