New and Old Hippies. The Beginnings Times for the New Future Movement.

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Scorpio Kenny, May 16, 2011.

  1. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Especially check out the binaural stuff through headphones.

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It's funny I don't remember anyone doing a demographic poll before the hippy movement. I have a question.

    "If there was a new happening hippie movement, would you be a part of it?"

    If only those that answered affirmative to this poll made up this movement, how happening and "hippie" do you really think it would be?
     
  3. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    :rofl: — ROFL

    Well.

    And you ask a really intelligent question, here. This question could easily apply to anyone who has just showed up and who wishes to get a measure of exactly what these people are all about.

    A very fare question.

    I'm not saying this to you, because you can guess this. But I'm saying this to everybody.
    :sunny:

    So, here I go, if I may.
    My thought. And NOTE: I Wrote the Poll. I was the one who framed it.

    Regarding the idea of trick questions.
    "No, I'm an independent loner. Not a joiner."
    This is Obvious. ALL HIPPIES ARE INDEPENDENT! No hippie in there right mind, joins a club. There would have to be an awesome reason for any hippie to join anything. However, I do Think that I am putting it out there. I RESPECT THESE PEOPLE.
    THis Quadrant may just be the intelligent future leaders of the Future. It would have to be VERY REAL for any group or club to be worth joining. Groucho Marx said IT.

    Way Back and When My friends in their commune had a monthly newspaper named, The Goddam Independent. Circa 68–74. Every human is independent. But some are sociopaths. And We Love them too. Sociopaths can be loads of fun. They help to make life much more exciting.

    The Poll is completely unnecessary. It's a joke. This Forum allows for the creation of a Poll, So, What the Heck? I made a Poll. It's just Window dressing.

    Actually, in my world:
    "No, I'm an independent loner. Not a joiner."
    "No, I hate fun."
    "No."
    "Probably not."

    Counts for NOTHING.
    Just like "Is this a trick question? (no points)" is out of bounds. And Count for NOTHING.

    To answer your question, If you are negative, Then WHO THE F___ CARES.
    Uh,
    Bye Bye.


    Make any sense?
    That's a Smoke screen. Life is A SORT. If you are alive, then you are being SORTED. Ah, Duh.

    To go to your question:

    Your respected answer. If you can judge me as a true hippie. (Only)

    A) There is no Movement. Ever! Until there is at least some Momentum. We can't begin at the end. We can only begin at the beginning.
    Go Ask Alice In wonderland when she was ten feet tall!

    Skip the word Movement. LATER

    Depends.
    How Tight Are WE? The people here that you are LOOKING at.
    And where do we go from here? Where would you take US? Join In.

    SEX DRUGS AND ROCK AND ROLE?
    PEACE AND VEGGIES AND BLISS NINNY?
    SAY WHAT YOU LIKE.
    What? Tell us.
    WE ARE ALL!

    Ask about the OLD and then Do! Then Grow together into the all new.
    Do you have another way???????????????? Please help us, then.
     
  4. Plasticfantasticlover

    Plasticfantasticlover Member

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    Do you think the last hippie movement was popular and happening right away? I don’t think so. The poll isn't all to accurate anyways. Like i've said i have friends who who are really into this but they aren't on hipforums. And im suremost of the people do to.
     
  5. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Plasticfantasticlover

    You see it. It's only about us. Creating a core, for the whole world. We. Us.

    Thank you for helping to make it all happen while I was gone for a day or so. You own this, just as I do. It's your Freak party, too. We R Free! This is your Trip. Run it.

    I Only Wish That Together we can become a SCENE.
    Movements can show up 6 years later. I don't care.

    I just want to LIVE THE SCENE. Part "E" on.
     
  6. Plasticfantasticlover

    Plasticfantasticlover Member

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  7. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    All and all
    The Mountains of the Moon.

    All and all
    I’m very glad that I had too much other work crap to do and that you friends all carried on the Trip while I had to be gone.
    Pass and Carry the Torch!!!!!!

    YOU ALL TOTALLY ROCK)))))))))))))))))))))))))
    Thx.

    You Each did much more that I could have dreamt would happen. Awesome.



    KeithBC said a word that we all should wish to be a part of:
    “community”


    Can we find a community where spreading peace (a.k.a. neighbourliness) is encouraged? How can we make a living in such a community? How do we practice actually doing it, instead of just talking about it? Can we learn to get along with people we disagree with? That, after all, is what peacemaking means.

    My answer is that you will never know until you TRY.
    I’ve lived it, and it works when you WANT IT TO.
    So, Just like most things in Life. It’s ON you to try. F__ing DARE! You’ll never get the answer if you don’t go out there and look.
     
  8. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Glad that JC is Back.

    Hoping that he can throw some wisdom in here that can being us into one big scene and flow and appeal to others.

    Roll it J

    Say your true heart that will make a community.
     
  9. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Direct the Party Scene.
     
  10. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Anyone of us that are being so very cool as to VOTE:
    "I'm there ahead of you waiting for everyone to show up."

    Then I'm hoping that you have at least half of the Latrenes dug out and most of the Plywood Porta Potties build, Painted blue, and finished. Ready for the New Rock concert.

    If you VOTED THAT, Then get Your Ass With a Shovel and GO. Show us YOUR SHIT. Don't Just Talk.

    YOU SHOULD BE HERE Welcoming All Of the others. REALLY. Not just cheap ass talk. Like you Normally would.
     
  11. Plasticfantasticlover

    Plasticfantasticlover Member

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    Its not only me who owns this, its all of us. The whole core. We are the start.
    DONT JUST WISH? MAKE IT HAPPEN!
    If we work as one community it will happen.
     
  12. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    All and all
    The Mountains of the Moon.

    All and all
    I’m very glad that I had too much other work crap to do and that you friends all carried on the Trip while I had to be gone.
    Pass and Carry the Torch!!!!!!

    YOU ALL TOTALLY ROCK)))))))))))))))))))))))))
    Thx.

    You Each did much more that I could have dreamt would happen. Awesome.



    KeithBC said a word that we all should wish to be a part of:
    “community”


    My answer is that you will never know until you TRY.
    I’ve lived it, and it works when you WANT IT TO.
    So, Just like most things in Life. It’s ON you to try. F__ing DARE! You’ll never get the answer if you don’t go out there and look.


    My answer is that you will never know until you TRY, selling your hand dipped hard shell dipped chocolate covered pear slices on a stick, on a street corner. If you try it, you get your answer. If you don't actually try something you will never know for sure.
     
  13. wild-flowers

    wild-flowers forever arbitrary

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  14. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Just BECause.

    Just don't worry about it.

    You like the rest of us are all a part of the TRIP.
    TRIPPY!

    Just Stay CENTRAL. BEE A Round.
     
  15. Plasticfantasticlover

    Plasticfantasticlover Member

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    Welcome aboard wild flowers. Now you get to listen to mine and kenny's excitement.
     
  16. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    I've read this numerous times and it has been attributed to everyone from George Carlin, to Kurt Vonnegut, to the Dalai Lama:

    The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but
    shorter tempers, wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more,
    but have less; we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and
    smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees
    but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more
    problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

    We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little,
    drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too
    little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our
    possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and
    hate too often.

    We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to
    life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but
    have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer
    space but not inner space.

    We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air,
    but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice.

    We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less.

    We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold
    more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less
    and less.

    These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small
    character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of
    two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes.

    These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one
    night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer,
    to quiet, to kill.

    It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the
    stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time
    when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.

    Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going
    to be around forever. Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to
    you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your
    side.

    Remember to give a warm hug to the one next to you because that is the only
    treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent. Remember,
    to say, "I love you" to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all
    mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep
    inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday
    that person will not be there again. Give time to love, give time to speak
    and give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  17. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Rev J,

    Yeah, the last two paragraphs are the real true message. I can see us all there.

    Thanks, Brother. And thank you for telling us some about yourself, what you do and how you feel.
    You are setting a great example of letting us all get to know you and see you and become family with you. Thanks for your heart.

    Thanks for the vid, too. WE ARE. Same Consciousness, energy, mass, We are stardust. We are Golden. We are 50 billion year-old carbon. WE ARE.
     
  18. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    About me. I'm pretty much an open book.

    Just try to imagine a guy who is now old, and who back and when was in all of the right places at all of the right times. Or at Least, way many of them. Being there. Making the SCENE.

    Like about a few months after Woodstock happened, a guy in Berkeley asked me if I had gone to Woodstock. To me that just seemed like the weirdest idea in the world.
    I gave it some thought before answering him. The question to me was how to explain it from my vantage point, or from where I was coming from. He came from New York and I was living out west right in the thick of things. These were two very different spaces.

    So, I started to explain that I was in an Art College and that my roommate knew all of the low down on all of the rock groups. I never had to know who was coming to town. There was 3 different venues in San Francisco and every Friday and Saturday we were at 2 of them and had to choose what one we were not going to go to. Back then each show cost $3.00 and had 3 groups. So, we blew $6.00 each weekend.

    Then I explained that most of the main draw bands at Woodstock were groups that I had seen in the last 5 weekends, some 2 or 3 times. My explanation was basically, why would I want to hitchhike 3,000 miles there and another 3,000 miles back, to see somebody that I saw last Saturday?

    My point?
    I've been in a lot of things. I've seen a lot of bands. I've made a lot of SCENES.


    I have lots of posts in Hip Forums > Hip Communities > Hippies > Back to the Garden > Church of the Good Earth 1963 and Beyond
    It's where I lived in San Francisco. A huge (kind of urban survival) commune in the Haight Ashbury Neighborhood. There and other places in San Francisco.

    It was there where I first learned that every hippie needs a gig. "You don't work you don't eat." was the motto at the crash pad. This may sound severe, but, you had to spare change a buck. Or have some money gig going.

    This was well after the "Summer of Love" when who knows how many people showed up in one place from all over the world. Neighborhood resources were crushed and 100s of people stood on street corners spare changing for the same quarter.

    What I learned then at this commune was that everyone needs to learn to carry their own weight, somehow. Learning as we go. The opposite is known as being an energy drain on the group. Not a happy thing to be.
    In the commune that I was in, people would show you how to make some change. There were functioning income groups, like gigging at the recycling center, and other things.

    These were some of my experiences. And some critical lessons in things that help to keep groups together or how they fail. I vote for the first one. LOL

    She's totally right of course.
    A thing that we should consider.

    And yet this is but one aspect of what it is all about.
     
  19. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    This song goes out to Plasticfantasticlover and all of the Jefferson Airplane Freaks out there. And to the Deadheads, too. Okay?



    We Can Be Together
    Lyrics
    Jefferson Airplane



    Select Excerpts that apply here.​
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    We can be together
    Ah you and me
    We should be together
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    But we should be together.

    Come on all you people standing around.

    Our life's too fine to let it die.

    and We can be together
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    Everything they say, we are, we are.
    And we are very Proud of ourselves
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    Come on now together
    Get it on together
    Everybody together
    We should be together
    We should be together my friends
    We can be together, We will be.

    We must begin here and now.
    A new continent of earth and fire
    Come on now gettin higher and higher

    Tear down the walls
    Tear down the walls
    Tear down the walls
    Won't you tryyyyyyyyyyyyy?

    Comments?​
     
  20. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    What I like the most about us, right now is that the Beginning times are always the funnest times. It's Oh So New.
     

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