Never felt anything like this....

well i think what he means is that its still possible to ship it to canada

 

Pmeth,

In psychedelic-psychology there is something called a "psychedelic threshold". If you've never had a psychedelic experience before in your life and are trying to have your first one, your mind, at first, fights or blocks the experience, until it adapts and is ready for the experience.

Once you've broken through (only once is required), the psychedelic experience will come quickly with the same psychedelic drug, or a different one. It's like opening a door into another dimension, or state of consciousness. The rock group THE DOORS named their band after these doors, as influenced by Aldous Huxley, in his book: THE DOORS OF PERCEPTION (describing Huxley's experiences with MESCALINE). Haven't you ever heard THE DOORS sing: "Break on through to the other side."? The "psychedelic threshold" is opening up a door of altered consciousness and breaking through to the other side.

Individual results may vary to person. With some it comes quickly, while others it takes longer. Overly strong doses of psychedelics may make it come too quickly.

Simply put, after smoking pot for 30+ times, and adapting to it (becoming more comfortable and experienced to its effects), your mind decided to move to the next level (like in a video game). Pot and psychedlics have different and higher levels, usually related to dose, and your mind's abilility to accept them. You've started to open that door a crack. With higher doses (preferably while not driving or in school) the door will open fully and you'll break on through to the other side.

In the fall of 1973 (while attending Arizona State University, in Tempe, Az), I had my first pot experiences. After about a week and a half of heavy pot smoking, of only experiencing being "high", euphoric, "giggly" and happy, I finally broke through the "psychedelic threshold".

I was listening to music on the floor of my suite mate's dorm room (as he had the only stereo system in our 2 bedroom/living area dorm suite) and I started to feel silver bubbles flowing through my body and when I closed my eyes, I could see them and become them! An endless flow of consciousness and "internal visions" (with eyes closed) followed, until "peaking", then slowling giving away to just a euphoric aftermath. Time slows down, and at times, appears to stop. This is normal for the pot experience.

Once I broke through this "mental barrier" or "mental block", everytime that I smoked enough pot, I would always have this cool "effect". It's like dreaming, while being awake! But there is no weird "story line" like in dreaming, the pot "trip" is just a heavenly, euphoric flow of consciousness and internal visions! Sometimes mental and spiritual insights would make themselves known and old memories would surface, about thoughts that I have long forgotten.

I would have internal visions like: flying between two planes of orange "K's" and then yellow "Y's", a turquoise plaque with the word "GOD" on it, a field of polished-chrome half capsules, a field of interconnected "sizzling" firecrackers (with an American flag design on them), a field of glass flowers with liquid color flowing through them, beautiful natural scenery and so on. I would not only see these visions, but "feel" them as well. These visions last about 4 hours, before a pot "recharge". Fun and heavenly visions!

When I listened to music, I'd "flow" with it, feel it and become it. My internal visions would commonly "sychronize" with the music. What a joyous, euphoric and fun-filled experience that was! Listeneing to music is SO MUCH better while in the pot mode. I become a part of it, instead of just listening to it!

I use the word PSYCHEDELIC to describe a chemical (or plant) that produces VISIONS and altered FEELINGS, whether internal and/or external visions. I use the word TRIP to describe the effects of PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS. I classify MARIJUANA as a MILD PSYCHEDELIC, and I "trip" on pot, because I feel like a door opens up into another dimension and when I return back, I feel "refreshed" like I've actually been on a physical vacation, or trip. A "pot trip" is way different from an "acid trip", but I still feel like I've been on a "trip", or a vacation into my mind.

Once, while at ASU in Tempe, AZ, I sat in a 70's "smoking circle" at a college party in someone's house, on the kitchen floor and smoked a massive amount, THEN I went into the living room and took 6 powerful hits on an "oxygen-mask pipe". I went back into the kitchen and saw a hippy chick with a white cast on her leg, she had "silver sparkles" around her eyes and all over her cast!

When I went back into the living area, a hippy dude entered the front door, with a semi-open shirt and his chest was covered with green sparkles, but as he got closer, they vanaished! They were totally real! This was the ONLY time, on pot, that I experienced true (opened-eyed) hallucinations. It's not impossible to see hallucinations on pot, it's just extremely rare, as it takes an insane dose level to accomplish it.

LSD usually does not produce true hallucinations, UNLESS you take an extremely high dose. There is a level beyond "true hallucinating", I call "environmental morphing", where you enter into "hyperspace". High dose LSD, DMT or SALVIA DIVINORIUM can take you there, but it's very tense and can be very scary.

Taking a pot, or acid, trip is like climbing a mountain, you getting higher and higher (slowly) until you reach THE PEAK (the most intense and glorious moment), then you climb back down, until you reach "ground level". With charts and graphs, it's called a "bell curve". Some teachers grade on the bell curve.

I've never tried SALVIA DIVINORIUM (aka "Diviner's Sage"), but I've thought about it. I know that to experience an intense trip, you must use a concentrated extract (like 5X, or 10X) and smoke it very fast, plus have a good guide, as you'll get seriously high! Salvia trippers who took the 20X extract, said it was too powerful and it messed them up, like a bad trip. I've heard that it's very powerful, very scary and extremely whacked-out in a time/space-geometrical way. Good luck on that one!

With SALVIA, your consciousness will come out of your body, enter the wall, become the wall and wonder if you really ARE the wall, dreaming that you are a man! This supposedly was a true SALVIA experience! Read alot about SALVIA experiences to see if you want to have this intense type of trip!

You've opened your doors of perception a crack. Now, your doors of perception will open fully and you'll "break on through to the other side". It did for me.

Peace out. Trip out.

 

^ Man, i sometimes don't read really long posts, but you always have something good to say, so i say, always read what cosmicdust has to say, we all might learn something.

 

One of the reasons why people have bad trips on salvia is because theres basically no time between being sober, and tripping balls. It comes on so fast, it's something you have to be mentally ready for. Being launched into another dimension in less than a minute can understandably trigger bad trips.

 

^What seancourt states above, about his post on salvia causing potentially bad trips (or at least very scary and intense trips) is very true. Nice wording and description! DMT is supposedly the same way. The time lag between toking up and warp driving into hyperspace is extremely short. You have no time to slowly adapt to it. You basically surrender to the trip and go with the flow, with hopefully, no panic reactions.

There was a RC (research chemical) in the late 60's, called STP by common, street name, or chemically known as DOM (4-methyl-2, 5-dimethoxy-a-methylphenethylasmine/DOW Chemical Company-Midland, MI). It was really scary because it produced VIVID TRUE HALLUCINATIONS, extremely intense SPEEDY and "ELECTRIC" effects and could last up to 3 days! 3.2-10 Mgs. was a normal psychedelic dose. A quality error in dosing produced some tablets with 300 Mgs. of DOM! Alot of bad trips, man! I didn't try STP (DOM) as it was a 60's thing and it didn't really make it into the early 70's (on a large scale, anyway).

With my intense 4-way AMBER WINDOWPANE LSD trip, I had at least 15 minutes before take-off, 5 minutes of ascent, then POW!!! Serious tripping! With DMT and SALVIA DIVINORIUM - INSTANT POWER TRIPS. BAM, you're in this reality one second and then your in an insanely, powerful whacked-out reality the next. It scared me off a little, but when I'm ready, I may try these two power hitters.

Peace out. Trip out.

 

^ if you ever come into contact with someone who has DMT, i'd suggest doing it if your curious, seems to be extremely rare.

 

Thanks that gave me insight , i might start listening to the doors now
Hopefully i might feel like this when i try salvia.

 

dmt isnt rare, u just have to make it yourself from certain root barks and the such... u can normally legally ship these to your house from the same sites that ship you salvia

 

Well im planning to do salvia with a friend , prob 20x or 40x... for my first time , if i do 40x ill do a LITTLE amount , hopefully i will get an effect im looking for. Hopefully Salvia will be good for a first timmer with hallucinogens as i only smoked pot before

 

I strongly suggest against doing 20x your first time, if you smoke it correctly, you're gonna be blown out of the water. I would start with like 10x....but do whatever you want man

 

agreed

the first time i did 7x i was blowin

second time i did 12x i was blowin
third time i did 21x i dropped my pipe after my hit, but didnt realize it until 5 minutes after my trip ended,...haha
it was intense, and wouldnt want that kind of intensity for my first trip with salvia
just a suggestion though, you can always go up in dosage

 

yesterday i was sitting in my computer chair and i started tripping out, there were like silent explosions all across my vision, i thought there were stars out when there wasn't last night. first time i've gotten closed eye visuals firmly on weed... dang, looove the good stuff.

mm.

 

I had a trippin on weed experience once-I was outside and it was night and it wasn't like I saw things literally, but that every line of every object started to sort of re-form, like a tree branch would combine with the side of a house behind it, until I saw them as different objects...I thought I saw little elves and shit running around and an ogre in someone's house. I sound like a tool now. Haha

 

lol no i understand, i definetly was trippin today after my wake 'n' bake with my grav bong. the whole world was like jarred out of normality, i can't believe i managed to buy anything at the grocery store. i felt like i was drifting away, and there were like light explosions all over the place

 

i heard from a friend that you couldnt smoke salvia out of anything but a bong because it wont work, is that true?

 

you can smoke it out of any pipe really, bong just is more effective in my own experiences... since you get such a big hit

 

good trip. what happened to you is normal, you were just very stoned and the THC just excited your nerves a bit. happy tokin'!