C carries more offense, which is usually the desired consequence of saying it. I usually reserve it for politicians, capitalists and thugs, often the distinction between the three is fuzzy, so it's best to just have one words for all three. Keep it succinct, then you don't have to spend as much time talking or thinking about these fucks.
god forbid isnt fine to a southern baptist. heaven forbid would be acceptable but never god forbid.. hell i know people who will not even type the word god when typing about god..lol seriously, they type G-d.. you say words that anyone may be offended by but your not looking at the big picture or the implications of that..
I regularly blaspheme the lords name and jesus', it's just something that has been permanently melded into my psyche.
Don't tell me that what I know to be a fact isn't true. Personally, I do not believe it's taking the "lord's name in vain" but my point is that there are other people who think otherwise and would be deeply offended. Your gainsaying doesn't negate the FACT I responded with..
exactly, so by his logic if i say ****** is not offensive, then its not offensive.. there,problem solved..
Well they're being ridiculous and irrational. Ban racism, that's all I want, if you're scared and afraid it would spread to other areas that's your issue, I think we're civilised enough to know where to draw the line on 'free speech'. The exact same argument could be made about free will "but if you ban murder and theft, where does it stop?".
exactly.. murder,theft rape are "banned"(illegal) and what has it stopped? NOTHING.. it still happens every second of every day.
That's a ridiculous arguement, it's significantly lowered the number of cases of it happening. This world would be chaos if there were no consequences for things like that. And with murder, some of it is impulse, guy catches his wife cheating, man takes revenge on someone killing his wife. theft can be excused by starvation and desperation, racism is never never necessary, it's just a 'mean' act.
Collectively we are not and never will be civilized enough to know where to draw the line IMO. They're being ridiculous and irrational, and banning the expression won't stop that- it just seeks to hide it so such negative mindsets can mingle among us with stealth. Personally I'd much rather people be free to display what asses they really are so I know to stay away from them. Do away with the freedom to express mindless, irrational hatred and you'll do away with the peer pressure that just might ignite some constructive soul searching. The problem should be cured at its source, not hidden from view and allowed to fester.
so we ban racist comments, how will this be enforced? clog up our court systems further,throw people in jail who refuse to pay the fines or are multiple offenders? wow in a country where 1 in 100 adults are already in over crowded prisons and over half of them are there for non violent crimes,im sure that would work out great.. its just ridiculous to propose taking legal action over someones bigotry..
Fine, then let people take action into their own hands, if someone makes a racist comment, the offended people should have the right to beat the shit out of him.
I would like to know more about this. If I have learned anything on the internet, it is that there no guaranteed consensus on ANYTHING. There is nothing that can come out of the human mouth that will not offend some off-the-wall person. If you say the sky is blue, you may get an angry response from a blind guy whose feeling were hurt because he can't see the color of the sky. The situation is truly beyond absurdity. I remember when profanity was common in the US business world. In fact, if you didn't use a lot of it in the 70s and 80s, guys thought you were a pussy. After decades of female advancement in management and many sexual harassment lawsuits, somebody decided that sexual harassment includes any speech that a conservative christian female does not want to hear. Now we are at the point where saying "damn" when you put a staple through your finger might get you a written warning from the boss. * * * At best, the n-word is unnecessary. I hear it used primarily to communicate the thought that a black person is a stupid asshole. Why not just call him or her a stupid asshole?
IN YOUR OPINION that's a ridiculous statement. Please be careful your argument doesn't become a personal attack. I do happen to think laws serve as a deterrent for some but by placing a law on the books one doesn't eradicate a problem... and if it's laws that are preventing people from doing ugly things to one another god forbid (*awaits lightning*) that the government break down and anarchy ensues... we'll find that laws don't actually CURE any problem, they just suppress the visibility. If we want to actually solve problems of racism we need to encourage other forms of addressing them than imposing rules that reflect a society's stance that individuals on their own are incapable of controlling their behavior. An effective cure cannot be administrative- it MUST be cultural... in my opinion of course!
FTR, i dont like the word and when someone overuses it it makes my skin crawl,but i still support a persons right to use it..
Persecution , harrassment or aiming to cause racial offence are never acceptable online.Thats the issue. Some of what I've read on the internet has been vile, filth and plain illegal. Keyboard race warriors are a pathetic breed. I limit the amount of time I'll argue with an idiot.Because spend too long, what does that make me? Its wholly incorrect to state that there aren't laws protecting against causing racial offence in the US. And I am in discuss with various parties re the (il)legalities of certain websites right now. Should you wish to know more, please email me. PS anyone wants to call me a "****** lover", please save it.I'm logging off.
"Well they're being ridiculous and irrational. Ban racism," This is ridiculous and irrational. I tend to share your sentiments about what is blasphemous and what is not and racism, but, there are a couple fundamental flaws in your thinking. First, you believe that your sense of decency is the end all. You proclaim some things not blasphemous and denounce other things. However, the things you're judging are very subjective and you give no consideration to the fact that some people will disagree. I'm generally in step with your position on these subjects but the fact that you say its fine or not fine holds no weight. Its your opinion, which is no more important than anybody else's opinion. Second, racist acts that legitimately harm others are already banned by laws. Racist beliefs and expressing them are protected under free speech and , on a pragmatic level, impossible to control. I guess an Aussie has a bit of a different take on freedom of speech, but, as Americans, it is fundamental of our way of thinking. And, when you think about it, it was developed specifically to protect people with incindiary/offensive views. Part of the price of free speech is tolerating viewpoints you find unsavvory. So, banning a word or proclamation of a viewpoint would fly directly in the face of American philosohpy.
