My worst trip

I guess what i meant was the idea that perhaps there is some benefit to not turning away from thought loops and investigating the nature of them to reveal the emptiness of the one who is suffering from them. Your worse sufferings can manifest into a really authentic expression if you see them through, if that makes any sense.

And just to be able to stand still, right in the middle of the most intense experience, takes guts. Just to not turn away from anything at all. Even if your whole universe disappears. I guess that's just part of what tripping was for me though. Disagree with this method or not, part of it was just the ultimate stepping into the Unknown. Whether it be beautiful, ugly, or beyond both of those concepts, are you willing to step into it and not turn back?

So i guess that's where i'm coming from regarding diving head first into Hell.

But i think what you're saying is, most of it is un-necessary and can easily be avoided if you simply do such and such technique, such as doing other things to occupy your mind.

I'm the idiot who's going, "well, what is death really? what will happen if i jump off this bridge? It takes real guts to do this." And so i jump off and break my arm, thinking i've done some sort of heroic feat.

And you're simply standing at the top of the bridge, shaking your head, saying "well, we don't know what death is, we CAN'T know, and it was un-necessary for you to do that. you could have simply not jumped and you wouldn't be in the situation you're in now."

lol or maybe i'm overanalyzing this whole thing.

 

So we're in agreement.

I think you're getting confused with:

This is the "micro" solution to having a thought loop. This is what you do when you have your shit together, know what a thought loop is, have looked into their nature, and one is now bothering you. One thing you can do is to simply get up and do something; shift sets.

 

gotcha

 

The simpliest and most efective tehnique is to meditate. If you are not sure how to meditate, just simply start sending love to the whole world, to plants, animals, people, earth, planet, universe.......
Imagine that your love is healing the planet ( and I actualy believe it does)! After some time spent like that, you will feel awsome, so happy that you could do something nice. You will be happy that you became a better person, that you care and can give love.You will see the smile will be all arround your head
Important thing is to remember that feeling and to learn from it, and to try to implement it as much as you can in your day to day life, to try to be better person every day.

 

Havent seen this thread for a couple years thought I would let you guys no how i am doing and the so called "end result" of the issues i was having with my heart beat and repetitive thoughts.

I found that it was smoking weed while i was tripping was giving me scattered thoughts that i did not like and less control of my mind.

I lost touch with lucy for a couple years. I'm sure for good reason. I have now been reconnected with her for the past year and things are better then ever. We go on fractal vacation every couple months or so.

Each time i trip i still get a sort of deja vu feeling about my bad trips and will start to focus on my heartbeat although without smoking i am able to quickly move past it.

Thanks for reading

 

nice to read an update like this. thanks for letting us know