My theory on 9/11

LOL neoncon socialist like bush? That is funny... your the first person ive ever heard call bush a socialist...
Bush is a freaking capitalist to the max... hes the president of the US, the biggest capitalist powerhouse in the world.

Lol rat likes to put shit in peoples mouths that isnt true... when did I say I was for world government? When did I say I wanted to destroy the constitution?

Lol, rat... you are playing right into the system and you hardly know it by being a Libertarian... I would say the exact same thing to you... You think your playing against the system but the system could love nothing more than a die hard capitalist. The fact that you called bush a socialist is the most outstanding thing ive ever heard... how the fuck is he socialist? hes worked towards privatizing a lot of things... Libertarianism is just as trendy of a movement as the socialist movement.

 

Oh no! The government whores like yourself will never like me, how will i sleep at night?
"insulted the government" you say that as if its some horrible thing.

LOL not a successful person... thats funny ... never been on welfare or any gubment programs, thx god.
Typical honky trash.

Because I dont like the Iraqi insurgents any more than I dont like american terrorists.

Lol your crazy. Just because I hate the government and I hate the military doesnt mean I want to kill everything associated with it. Thats a completely seperate thing that I think even you could see.

Lol. You phrase things funny.

AND the black vote can be enough to turn the tide in an election if it breaks down to certain counties votes which have more blacks than others. I think than I was referring to a specific incident in Florida where blacks reported voter suppression

 

Mui -- ALL political figures are capitalists, whether they present themselves as capitalists, or socialists or communists. Whether it's George Bush or Hugo Chavez, they are both after one thing; money and power. Socialism and communism are merely tools of capitalist greed.

The problem with you is that you see things at face value. You cannot see that you're being manipulated, because like most marxists, you buy into the most superficial aspects of the movement. This might explain why I have never met a hardcore socalist who can actually debate and present relevant facts to backup their arguments.

Several people have referred to Bush as a socialist, including Congressman Ron Paul, who referred to Bush as a "domestic socialist."

Fiscally speaking, George Bush makes Bill Clinton look like a hardcore conservative.

I would describe Bush as a communist, since he is using excessive amounts of taxpayer dollars to wage imperial wars abroad, while ushering in a high-tech police state at home, as he slowly bankrupts the US economy, while deliberately lowering the living standard of US citizens.

 

Being after money doesnt make you a capitalist. What makes you a capitalist is leading the country in a capitalist tendency, and thats what Bush is doing.

If you knew anything about marxism, you would know that Marxism is stateless, that is, governmentless... Youve been proven wrong by many other socialists on this board, you just cant see that. Please read something by marx before you go off spouting the gospel about how hes so damn wrong. Marxism is an ideology that was never put forth, marx never had a country to rule... it was just a philosophy, so its hard to categorize just what it is... but if theres one thing you can learn from reading something on marxism its t hat it is essentially stateless.

Maybe you'd realize we dont disagree on so many things Rat.

Oh man so he must be socialist than... No way rat... bush is not a socialist, that is just freaking hilarious. He's taken so many reforms that are not socialist at all... Rat, you just think socialism = bigger government... socialists dont increase the military like Bush has done... thats why hes been called a domestic socialist.

 

So, what you're saying is there are only a handful of capitalists then?

 

well believing in capitalism makes you a capitalist... supporting capitalist ideals. and bush certainly is doing that by not only supporting those ideals, hes DOING them... capitalists have been waiting for a long time to privatize social security, now hes finally done it... hes a capitalists wet dream.

calling him socialist because he's brought us the patriot act and a larger military doesnt mean ish.

 

I think Ratis right though, all leaders are basically capitalistic. Think about it, the less capitalistic a nation they rule over, the more power they have generaly.. What else would they be after than money and power?

 

No. You guys are confusing many many things... you are just assuming that power hunger makes you a capitalist... which isnt true... and that socialism is about power over people.. which its not... which is a common stereotype though... most socialist countries have less power than capitalist ones... america is the big capitalist one and its leaders have the most power than any other nation... are you saying bush is both a capitalist and a socialist?


What else would a socialist be after than money and power? Well sir lots of things. Socialist DICTATORS are power hungry, any dictator is... any empire is... you are just assuming socialists support those empires.

 

Well, I'd say America is more a Fascist state than anything.

 

What the hell are you talking about? Did mui ever say he liked terrorists? Our soldiers, theyre a lot of people i cant love or hate them all. But i do agree our government has them in the wrong place. if this were about sept 11 Most of the terrorists involved came from saudi arabia. But the bush family has close financial ties with the dictators that run that country, so big surprise, we invade somewhere else, yes saddam was bad, getting rid of him is probably a good idea, But its definetly not the best way to start or the best way to proceed if your goal is stopping terrorism. So im not totaly against the idea of attacking potential threats, I dont know that they are in fact doing that, or that they are doing a very good job.

What i know im against is the presidents policys, almost all of them, hes cutting all kinds of aid programs domestic and abroad. And always asking for more money for the military. If we put more of that money into helping other countries, then maybe we wouldent need to spend so much money on millitary to keep them at bay. And no child left behind is a big lie, Its going to shut down countless schools, and cut the funding to several others, it pretends to enforce higher standards, when really it punishes schools that cant afford good teachers by taking away their money....and the patriot act...ah screw it, the people who disagree with me never read what i say.

 

I looked up the word "moron" on Google and at the very top of the list was a picture of ... guess who ...

When I look a word up in the dictionary, I always use my ever-so-handy Internet Explorer Google toolbar, search Google first so it will open a new window with the word I want, then click the dropdown to the right of the toolbar and select "Dictionary". This way it doesn't interrupt the window I'm viewing at the moment.

So I looks up this word "moron" in the Dictionary and it says ... A stupid person; a dolt. A person of mild mental retardation ... yadda yadda yadda. So I thinks to myself and I wonder how a stupid person could possibly bring to the attention of others the atrocities that President "Moron" Bush has wrought on the dead young men of America (who used to be alive by-the-way), along with the dead children of Iraq, and quite possibly the children of Iran also.

So I does some more thinkings to myself and I wonder how it's quite possible that anyone can turn an eye from these atrocities and call the one bringing this to the attention of the masses stupid or dolt, unless one has a propensity for death and destruction on such a scale as that of Mr. Bush.

I'm a Viet Nam Era veteran myself and I also have no liking for what is going on, nor to I condone what Mr. Bush is doing, nor do I agree with him in any sense or manner. Matter-of-fact, I voted AGAINST him. What sane person wouldn't ?????

If you ask me, and I know you won't, but ... even though I am not a Christian, nor do I believe in the Christian beliefs, cept for perhaps a few of their values that teach non-violence ... Mr. Bush is the Beast of the Book of Revelations. Next thing we can expect from him is for everyone in the U.S. to take a mark that prohibits buying and selling without the mark ... perhaps it will come in the size of a grain of rice implanted subcutaneously.

Well, I for one don't hate the Government. I do, however hate what it has and is doing. I guess that makes me a prime target for the Patriot Act ... wouldn't that be a comfort ??? least I will have more time to meditate longer if I'm stuck in some prison cell locked away for the rest of my life.

I care what Mui has said here. Everyone should care. Especially all those who sit back in their comfortable living room couches watching television day-in-and-day-out, pushing tons of chips and sodas, twinkies, brownies and burgers down their gullets... garbage cans is what Americans minds and stomaches have become.

Just out of curiosity, HonkyTonk, what are you trying to say here?

First stupid and a dolt, now one of exceptional calibre !!! Which is it ???

It's really okay that you "believe" what you believe. Fortunately, I find it easier to believe anyone who sides for and has a propensity for peace and values human life and existance over one who sides for and has a propensity toward violence, hatred and anger.

Darrell

 

For the record babies DO pass through the detector. And why go to war with Iran when we have plenty of dumbfucks in Minnesota to blow up?

 

this thread doens't attempt to make any real point, thereby rendering it SPAM. Moderator, do your stuff!

 

Not terrorist iranian babies.

More babies there to drop bombs on.
and "defending freedom" fer one.

 

It does attempt to make the point that if you support the troops, you are supporting the gov't because the troops are tools for the govt.

And it also did a great job pissing off the die-hard troop supporters.

Gl with the moderator... i know you'd just love to see this post deleted.

Yea, I understand a lot of u have friends, family in the army... maybe serving their proudly (lol)... I have a friend in the navy, a friend in Iraq right now... just because I dont "Support the troops!" doesnt mean I dont su pport my friends that are in the army... like i said, they are in there for money... cuz they are poor... not because they are dumb and think they should be "defending american freedom" by attacking third world countries. I realize not all troops are like them... so instead of supporting all the troops, i support mah friends... and everyone who signed up for the army to go to college and support their family.

NOT the war mongering jackasses who think they are so "brave and tough" and "american heros" by joining the forces... who either did it for Political Power when they are 50, an illusion of "defending" their friends and family, an insane fetish for guns and killing things, just plane psychotic murderers.

The few, the proud! More like the many, the brainwashed.
Americas army is so huge... how could you call it "the few".

 

My Theory On 9/11: CIA/Mossad False Flag Operation

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

I disagree, RevoMystic ... and that from a moderator, Philosophy & Religion Forum

Darrell

 

17 in the course of over 20+ years... not bad i'de say... considering people in iraq, afghanistan, israel, face terrorist attacks EVERY DAY.

 

You mean if all the troops were not existant? I think we wouldnt have a ny US attacks... the world hates us because of our overbearing military might, and how we police the world... we are like the big bullies... without the troops, we wouldnt be half the heartless sons of bitches we are.
The troops are CAUSING more terrorism by causing all this political dissent and hatred amongst america.

They aren't my troops. They arent protecting my ass, they are protecting George Bush. Fuck that.

 

There is truly no hope for you...
Muslims arent the only terrorists, mercy on your soul if you truly believe that..

Its just not religious beliefs, its much much more than that... saying its because religion is just freaking moronic... there are so many peaceful muslims compared to "terrorist" muslims..

The american government & army is the biggest terrorist organization in the freaking world.

your just another sheep fed the bullshit brought to you by the news... george bush succeeded in stirring up your hatred towards muslims... america isnt even supposed to represent a religion, yet it clearly has for so many years... it got itself into this shit... maybe they should actually stand for "seperation between church and state" and maybe we wouldnt have this problem, maybe the world wouldnt recognize us as a christian nation.