My problem with hell.

Actually, no it isn’t, it’s exactly the same for every one. Everyone goes back to the dust and their thoughts do perish.

God didn’t pull him back from anywhere, when a person dies they cease to exist, so the person was bought back from non-existence, that’s what resurrection is.

Where else could Lazarus go? He couldn’t have gone to heaven because no one could precede the Christ into heaven. So Lazarus went to the only place he could go, Hell, the common grave of mankind.

Which brings up an interesting question: Where did all those that died before the Christ go when they died? After all no one could precede the Christ into heaven so does that mean that everyone, no matter how obedient or good or kind, is in Hellfire for eternity just because they happen to die before Jesus was born?

 

They went where we'r all going. To the first death, -but no mater what they did in theyr lives has anything to do with wether they go to heavin or hell. What you do is somtimes an indicator of where your going but not a cause. I like what James says but its an indicator sometimes. Not a cause. -So everybody goes "To the earthly dust -the grave-to sleep, gets reserected, then some go to hell and some go to heavin."

 

Sory I dont know how to bust up the purple box. ^^^^^ I comented in there but I didnt know how to bust it up so I seperated my coments from the quote with ---------- lines like this---------. Sory bout the teknicality but I dont know how to bust up the quotes.

 

If you notice at the end of a quote it will always have this: [/quote] and at the beginning it will have this:

 

and at the beginning it will have this:

 

See the next post, he-he.

 

Well, I feel I would be not quite truthful if I should agree that, no, I never know it when I'm dreaming.
My theory is, that these dreams are one of the many expressions of the freedom God has given us. And that's amazing, isn't it! That these dreams you see have no link with reality. Oh, sometimes we try to find it and live our lives as though there was a link. But mostly there is none. Just fantasies meaning something or nothing.
Much like thinking: you can think about good many things, and these may be just images you build in order to understand something or to imagine something or just for fun... the funniest freedom we have, I think.
Well, I am not talking about dreams caused by God or demons. These are real creatures and should be taken seriously. But that's another story.

 

I've long wondered about this myself. I guess that's the conclusion we're supposed to draw. But the number I've heard for lost souls goes something like 90-95% of those who die at any moment.

But then again, the wages of sin are death, that's clearly written, as well as the description of the lost becoming "ash beneath the feet" of the saved, who live on earth (the true location of heaven) with Jesus as their king. Hell is not a place, it's a state of non being. Now that's a bummer, but it's at least something I can accept as a possible truth, a plausible fate for dead sinners, unlike what was drilled into me when I was little.

 

hell is, i think (obviously i don't KNOW), not sulfer and fire and all that. it is a state of eternal separation from God. and, moreover, it is a choice. God does not send people to hell, they send themselves. and not by committing adultery or lying, but by choosing to alienate themselves from other people, and, inextricably, God

 

It may already have been mentioned, but that's not strictly true. Those who die unbaptised, such as unborn babies, go to Purgatory.

 

Isn't that just a way of making God seem like the good guy in spite of overwhelming evidence? If something good happens, God done it, if something bad happens, you done it to yourself?

 

But what if we weren't Responsible for our actions on Earth? Then God was simply supposed to take over that responsibility, but He didn't.

The assumption you make assumes responsibility. Is it objective to much more then we'll ever know?

(such as the blamed information; the decision that I am or am not naive; the content of the priority of the individual; the ignorance of the priority of the society; woops, the society has a falseness of failing love on the conservatives World; to care for that would have taught a lot of us How to feel at ease for living the sheltered life of the book; being politically incorrect as solution for success climber; and Buch doesn't believe he is for success climbing)

Of course, the government tells me how much of the world revolves about my concerns.

We are responsible beyond excuse.

I don't know what that means. I feel like I'm in heaven now for reasons of these anti-biotics.

 

Eternal seperation from God makes no sense, period.

 

I'm guessing that, on the spiritual level, as in the corporeal one, the worst crime is to blame rather than take responsibility. So what if God abandoned us? Doesn't mean we can just blame everything on that.

 

There is a Hell. Jesus refers to such a place and there is evidence that hints of this places existence. Infact Hell is a result of ourselves. God gives us opportunities to be saved. ImHO

The description of sulphur and a lake of fire. It is under the plates. The mantal. God must be feared but we can be in relationship

 

sigh.

Hell sounds a bit like something out of 'Journey to the centre of the earth' by Jules Verne.
Also if it is eternal, how can it be under the earth's surface if the earth will one day cease to exist?

 

I guess the Earth will disappear and Hell will still be there?

 

Devious that!

 

Almost... devilish!


We all know the Devil just spends the whole time retro-gaming though, right?

 

What could be more hellish than playing Pong for the rest of eternity?