If NO is the answer you WANT then what is the point - anything else is seemingly abhorent to YOUR principles.
of course theres a point you have no conviction in your opinions which immediately invalidates them in any rational discussion, if you don't believe in what you what you are saying why should anyone else?
guy - i think we have had about 1 rational discussion - so lets not go there. I do have convictions in my opinions - they are just skewed by you and I have to abide by YOUR premise [anything other than YES is the wrong answer]. That is why I said any answer other than YES is ''seemingly abhorent to YOUR principles''. How many times do we need to go through this ?.
The other people, such as myself, you just fill in the blanks how you see fit. You assume that I am supporting the war in Iraq, and you assume that I have or am not currently serving. Nobody can win an arugment with yourself like you Guy.
as this thread is directed to the war mongers of hippyland it is natural i would find them , right here on hippyland. this is their space dedicated to them. people devoted to the war will probably be found here advocating the war or at least complaining of my rabid exhortation for them to live out their beliefs when they never will no matter what i say. welcome to my message to the war mongers thread , if you can't stand the heat..... its not my fault war mongers are treated so shabbily here, they come here of their own volition, no one forces them, so, please don't complain.
there is a problem with this thread though in many respects. it is starting to dominate this particular forum pushing out other opinions which is not really a good thing. oh well c'est la vie.
That and your argument doesn't make any fucking sense. From what I recall, the only person that seems to agree with you is Higherthanhell. Imagine that.
cadcruzer tell me your view of the war and war in general don't worry, you won't have to go to war but by all means tell me why the war on iraq is righteous what am i doing about the war? well very little i suppose very much like yourself i'd imagine if you didn't know it the american army really really really really needs people like you. truth be known my purpose is to pierce the bubble of the war monger, glad to see you've come over for a chat, now thats a surprise
i'd say if anything it is your own principles that you need to examine. you are in this thread because you want to argue the case for war this is why you are here. if you want to know one reason for the war then you need only look in the reflection of the monitor.
....really? ITS SEEM'S YOUR purpose is still recruitment. the only problem you have with this war is not enough Americans are dying. you dream of war, you wish for the USA to be stomped back to 3rd world status, you'de love to see the States occupied by foreign troops. your 2 option theory," join up or sit on your ass" sounds alot like "your either with us or against us" [ great minds think alike]. maybe you should consider editting the title of this thread to "my perennial message to the war* mongers of hippyland" *Iraq, not wwIII or any other war that would put the USA back in it's place.
Sooo...... Ya think Alex Baldwin should move to Canada ? This thread keeps getting bumped The thread seems OK to me though
No guy i do not want to argue the case for war. I was answering your initial question of ''joining up''. I answered that - You said in your initial post: look we could go into a long involved spiel about iraq and wmds and how the war was justified and how america should continue killing people in iraq but we won't. I think i made my feelings clear regarding how i feel in my first post then in post 13.
theres a few people here on this thread who are very angry, i'd say it is they who are the war monger and apologist. i see no gandhi like poster extolling his peace loving credentials who also finds my post offensive. the only people who would find this thread offensive would be people who are war mongers etc
The war mongers should sign up go to Iraq instead of pointlessly arguing in this thread. They are in dire need of bodies there right now.
I don't find this thread offensive - just your refusal to accept individuals points of view. You don't seem to appreciate people have differing opinions - Even if i was to say ''yeah ok guy i will'' - my answer would still have to fall into your premise and you would still misinterprete/misrepresent my reasonings. I'd more likely be portrayed by you as some gun totting red neck brainwashed idiot - wanting to kill as many ''ragheads'' as possible. So it is a lose lose conversation for me - and a win win conversation for you.
I stopped argueing with guy a while ago - he decided to re-ignite the question he has already recieved a answer for.
So, no comment guy? Atleast you're not denying it. You want it soooo bad you even make shit up, "looks like operation sealion has been called off" come on! you can't say some shit like that an not back it up. Enlighten us, what was operation sealion and who called it off ? you want it so bad you're confusing your dreams with reality ,roflmfao...
cadcruzer the first thing you need to do is get some rest and stop watching tv for about 2-3 weeks or so. when you've done this come back to this subject.