My Marijuana Story. Why I Quit and Why im Satisfied with my Decision to quit.

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by hebrewnational00, Apr 11, 2008.

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  1. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    lol wtf is this? why am i not suprised? u guys told me to find proof from an article, and so i did, i knew u guys would b like "thats b.s." lol....

    ur wrong! i dont "know" anything. ur trying to say that i agree with something that i dont agree with, so ur wrong.

    lol i cant add on anything else that would prove my point any more, i got proof, i said what i though was right, ur gonna find everypoint i make inneffective reguardless of whether or not i find a lagit article to proof my point.

    peace
     
  2. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    i basicly found exactly what i was trying to prove through my freinds' experience and personal experience, b4 reading that article i was just talking from what i have heard from freinds and what i went through, and then BAM i found actuall articles that support my point exactly.

    Again, im not saying this applys to everyone, but everyone experiences negitive and positive to some EXTENT. so YES everyone experiences negitive effects as well ranging from small, not too noticeable, not very bad- more noticeable serious negitive effects. thats all.

    peace
     
  3. Gsmall

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    ok, so no ones ever died from marijuana ok so if its not fatally negative no one cares gtfo dont abuse drugs no one cares how you quit marijuana

    PEACE!
     
  4. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Well, when your "proof" suggests that smoking a little bit of weed causes "long-term brain damage", which we all know is false, then pretty much everything else you posted is discredited. So fuck that shit. haha
     
  5. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    lol get outta here with ur barney ninja turtle pony tail ass 15 yr old ass.
    ur basically agreeing with me, saying it has negitive effects but its not fatall hahaha which i know. so why the fuck even bother replying to my thread if "you dont care about how i quit" (which isnt even the topic, its WHY i quit lol not HOW i quit)

    lol lucky charms fruit loop ass dora expolora ass dude.
     
  6. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    u choose to believe its false b/c it makes u feel better abuot smoking lol...u dont really know what ur talking about. u dont have proof that its false, u aint no scientist from the sixties on adderall and cocaine lol.
    the first two paragraphs are from the same article and every other paragraph is from different articles.

    all the articles i brought up basically back up my point EXACTLY saying its not very harmfull at all but it has some negitive side effects lol, u know theres a lot of truth in those articles, ur just denying it.

    u just believe what ever helps you convince urself ur right lol... if it said weed is the best medicine there is and can cure 100000 diseases, u would agree with it no matter who wrote the damn article lol. its wat ever man, like i said arguing with u is a waste of time lol.
     
  7. Guitar

    Guitar Senior Member

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    weed does not cause long term brain damage, thats complete bullshit.
     
  8. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    You don't even know if your source is credible. Stay away from biased information and learn how to identify it. A good start would be to wikipedia marijuana. Marijuana has been proven to be almost COMPLETELY harmless when occasionally used, and people have been trying to prove since the crack of dawn that it is assocatiated with an amotivational syndrome. Long term effects are a bit different, but mostly psychological. If you can't control your mind, or see through your own bullshit and paranoia YOU create, you're making the long term effects true for yourself. Bottom line. If you want to believe you've caused yourself brain damage, go for it, but you're only making your mental and physical well being worst by believing an uncertain fact that you are permenantly changed from a drug. You are basically choosing to ruin your own personal self esteem. (And it's funny, you're choosing to descriminate one of the most beneficial drugs).

    Common sense says to me, well if long term effects are associated with brain damage and are "really" that bad, why is it an accepted legal medical treatment? I'm confused. Please help.

    For another fun fact, marijuana isn't proven to be directly linked with cancer, however, inhaling smoke IS harmful and "linked" with cancer. That is where the connection occurs, though it is indirect, and probably doesn't cause it anyway. People can biase information through the use of semantics and technicallity, thus making them seem like the very wrong decision.

    Think about it, what other way would you manipulate your audience if you wanted to them to side with your "truth"? What kind of convincing argument would you have as an anti-druggy if you were saying... "well, this I guess is only true for some, so stay at risk, a bla bla".

    Just because marijuana has been proved by you to be a negative attribute in your own life, does not make it that way for everybody else. You are just yourself, you are different from everybody else. You have different genetics, hobbies, personality, outlooks, characteristics, and obviously from this how it effects your world will be different. Obviously your world turned upside down when you started basing it around the drug. Nobody made you do it, and the pot certainly didn't do it either, it's called self control. But I'm glad you realized it was causing your world more of trouble than good. It would be stupid not to quit in that case.

    Hope you understand better :)
    :jester:
     
  9. Gsmall

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    are you kidding me your that lame lol your a 19 year old posting on a forum of how you quit smoking weed... im not the one with the problems buddy :)

    PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Just a daily toke

    Just a daily toke Senior Member

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    who ever said people can get addicted to world of warcraft thats a mental addiction just like weed is. If you let it control your life then thats your problum not mary jane she didnt do anything to you, YOU BE CRAZY!

    ps : go take like 5 hits of acid and think about yourself and maybe you will accomplish something
     
  11. TopNotchStoner

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    There has never been ANY CREDIBLE evidence that proves that marijuana cause any sort of brain damage, whether temporary or long-term. I DO believe marijuana is the best medicine for SOME people, but certainly not all people, because SOME people shouldn't use marijuana. Like I said though, It is definitely the best medicine for some people. It definitely doesn't cause negative effects for ALL people; it does cause negative effects for some people though, and I have never denied that.......and it hasn't caused any negative effects for not anyone I have ever known, but I'm sure some negative effects come with it, for SOME people. Again, what is true for some isn't true for everyone. The only negative effects that are even possible from marijuana use, whether they be often or sporadic, are purely mental/psychological, and that is variant between everyone; meaning not everyone experiences those negative effects. If EVERYONE experienced those effects, I would've experienced them, myself, and I would be objective about them, but I have experienced ZERO negative effects, whatsoever, that weren't my own fault. If someone expereinces nagative effects, based on the use of marijuana, it is their own fault.......not the weed's fault. So far, the only negative effects I have experienced were completely financial....nothing mental or psychological. You can go ahead and stop with your little "crusade" because everyone knows it's a bunch of bullshit.
     
  12. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    u never give up tns, again... u didnt say anything i didnt hear from u before lol.
    im not trying to get ppl to NOT smoke, im just sayin its more the harmful than ppl think, uhhh lemme guess "for some ppl not for all" well i disagree, and ill leave it at that. I think everyone experiences either barely any -to- many negitive effects from daily use, so i disagree with u. u dont need to fuckin put urself on repeat every time i post something dammit lol. i heard u, u got ur own little breakdown on how it works, which i think is complete bullshit, and i dont tihnk u have a clue of what ur talking about, but thats it, we've been over this 232435 times, stop repeating urself lol.

    thanks.

    (SwoOosh on the other hand has a lot of good point)
     
  13. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Damn right, I keep repeating myself, because I know I'm right. As long as a motherfucker respects the herb, and KNOWS that their use of the herb is POTENTIALLY harmful, then they can maintain their shit and keep any negatives from happening, because the knowledge that their use of marijuana is potentaill harmuful will prevent them from letting it take control of their lives. The negatives only happen when people lose respect for the weed and actually think that their use of it can't harm them when, in reality, they can use it in a way that CAN be harmful. It ALL depends on the way the person views their marijuana use; if they view it as the only thing that matters, in CAN be harmful. However, if they respect the weed and know that it can be detrimental, when used with the lack of respect, but beneficial when used in the right way, then they are smart enough to use it in the way that is best for them. Again, it comes back the the individual's use of the drug, as with ANY drug.

    The same point I've been trying to make, throughout this entire thread is the reason I've been repeating myself; that point being, the only thing that can be harmful when using marijuana is the attitude of the individual using marijuana. You need to realize that shit and get off your high-horse.
     
  14. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    just, for the record, if not already mentioned, cocaine is still used in a medical capacity.

    also, non-smoker, gotta say op came off a little preachy, this was the wrong audience to choose most definitely, and the action of choosing this audience says adverse things about the message.

    don't come into a brothel preaching hell and damnation, and then expect not to be criticized.
     
  15. hebrewnational00

    hebrewnational00 Senior Member

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    TNS...
    lol mann ur basically saying that that weed is harmful unless u RESPECT it, which doesnt make sense at all. ur basing whether or not its harmful on whether or not u respect the drug. in reality, there is no link between the two. if ppl think it wont harm them than it does lol and if ppl think it can harm them than it doesn't, thats what ur saying? lol come on man, u can come up with better bull shit than that....

    if u think the weed will HARM you than nothing willl happen, u will experience NO negtive side effects. however, if u think weed is harmless than u will experience several negitive side effects/ withdrawal symptoms hahahaha right on top notch, i rest assured that u got that from a scientific reaserch lab and once u broke that down, i just have nothing more to add, everything is clear now, u were right! hahaa NOT....

    peace
     
  16. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    That's the point. And if you don't know what I mean by "respecting" the drug, then you are even more ignorant than I had previously thought. "Respecting" the drug means respecting the fact that, if used without realizing that it CAN be harmful when used in the wrong way, it can be harmful to you; not physically, but mentally. And when I say "using it in the wrong way", I am referring to the people that put it above all else and focus ALL of their energy on getting high. It all goes back to prioritizing and, if you know that there are more important things in life and have even a moderate amount of will-power, then you won't allow weed to affect you negatively, in the mental sense. There are no physical drawbacks.....only mental drawbacks, if you don't know that it is possible to lose sight of the more important things when you focus your energy in the wrong place. Respect it's power. THAT is what I was talking about when I said "respect".
     
  17. hebrewnational00

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    u dont make sense, i cant argue with u b/c the argument u present is retarded. many ppl that respect the drug and know about its effects and still have some-many negitive effects. haha, yeaa this time just blame it on their will power. its cuz their will power that they saw negitive effects lol, its not the wonderful weed plant that did it, no chance!, its THEM! if their will power was better than they would experiece nothing but postivies, which is again complete bull shit. u have no argument, just stop.

    "if u know that weed can b harmful, and u respect the plant than ull experience nothing but positives, if u think its weed is harmless and u think nothing bad can happen from smoking it u will experience negitive effects"

    interesting, but anyone with a five yr old brain would know this has nothing to do with whether or not u experience negitive effects from weed. no offense but this really is non-sense.

    peace
     
  18. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Dude......what I said makes perfect sense. The attitude of the smoker is what determines if it will have a negative, neutral, or positive influence on their life. If you focus all of your energy on getting high, then you don't deserve to get high, and it will backfire on you. But, if you realize that there are more important things in life than getting high, and you have your priorites where they need to be, then you can keep your shit straight and experience NO negatives, regardless of how much you smoke.

    All a person has to do, is realize that weed isn't harmless, if used with the wrong mentality. Marijuana very well CAN be detrimental to a person's life and they CAN become psychologically dependant on it. It all depends on how they view their use and how they view everything else in their life, in RELATION to their use. If a person's priorities are in the wrong place, that is when the problems come in. All of that goes back to respecting the weed and it's power.

    All of that withdrawal bullshit you have been talking about has absolutely nothing to do with what I have just typed.....or anything else, because the withdrawals are, like I said, bullshit. All of that withdrawal shit is nothing more than some boredom kicking your ass because you have given up your favorite passtime and you just need to find something new to do.

    The sleeplessness is just learning how to go to sleep again without being stoned. It has nothing to do with a chemical imbalance caused by weed. Hell, I had insomnia BEFORE I started smoking weed, but when I was stoned I had no problems at all. Now I haven't smoked for 2 weeks so I can get a job and I have, once again, become an insomniac. That is my own personal problem and it has nothing to do with weed, but weed helped me get over that when I was stoned.

    And you're telling me to stop arguing? hahahaha you know that's not gonna happen because I, unlike you, know that all of the negative effects of weed are entirely dependant on the individual......and NOTHING else.
     
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    What is your objective here?

    Clearly you realize that you will not be able to persuade TNS that his argument is wrong so what is your agenda? I can certainly follow his argument and while I may not necessarily agree 100% I can understand that much of anyone's problem with any substance starts with a refusal to respect the drug... whether that drug be in the form of weed, cocaine, food, alcohol, or whatever. Every substance issue has its genesis as a behavior and decision of its user. Surely the idea that something needs to be respected is based in part on the assumption that its abuse will have negative consequences. Use without abuse suggests avoiding consequences long term and the level where it becomes abuse differs from person to person.

    Sounds like you're trying to evangelize TNS here. This is a pro marijuana forum and it follows that those who frequent here will have issues with the manner in which you are trying to bludgeon your point home.

    I find it a tad ironic that anyone demonstrating questionable linguistic skills would resort to suggesting that the person on the other side of the debate couldn't match wits with a 5 year old--- but I'll leave that one alone as most of those silently following along have already gotten a good snicker at your expense. NO OFFENSE? Bullshit... clearly the offense has been intentional- you're attempting to mince words in order to creatively interpret a well stated point and perpetrate an opposition to an argument that you seem barely able to carry. The fact that you're apparently unable to comprehend the logic says more about your comprehension skills. TNS has striven to remain civil and respectful while you're inventing excuses to either launch personal attacks or provoke an attack response. This has no place in civil discourse and as such is a violation here.

    I think you've stated your case ad nauseum and it has been well established that you will gain no converts which means that this thread has run its course. Saying that you have an open mind about the issue has no meaning when you demonstrate that quite the opposite is true... although I will concede that I can understand why pot would be such a problem in your case... things are probably challenging enough as it is. Whatever the case, mud slinging isn't a means of pursuing either side of an argument.
     
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