haha absolutely know what ya mean when your dealling with people whos mental capacity or immaturity or drug induced stupor limmits theyre ability to respond to simple questions or points of view, to nonsence statements all you can do is throw up your hands in frustration & scream in theyre faces "wtf man dont you get it?" often it feels like talking to the lobotomized.. you could tell them the buildings on fire & they sit there with a blank stare drool dripping from theyre chin & theyre only responce is "im horney" & you scratch your head & think, oktheyre able to talk & express simple ideas, irrelevent as they may be but theyre unable to grasp the fact that "dude the buildings on fire" may have alittle more importance then just an excuse for them to utter the first few syllibles that come to mind, meanningless sounds whos only purposes is to prove theyre ability to speak.. its at that momment that you watch them consummed in the flames of ignorance that you want to scream "dude you mother fucking idiot your hairs on fire what the fuck is wrong with you???" "i feel like jerking off" "uhhuh..brilliant idea" its really sad what passes for an exchange of ideas these days isnt it?
I totally agree with Mr Eagle, lol. Someone asked why you were arguing with people all the time now...and I dont see it as arguing at all..I see it just as you said.. fed up with peoples stupidity. You can only sit around and read it for so long before you just have to comment on how fcking stupid people are, or how stupid they are becoming..and sadly..lately around here..I am seeing more and more stupidity than anything else I realize this is the stoners longue and not everything has to be serious..hell, I would prefer everything to not be serious...but just because it isnt serious doesnt mean it should just be downright idiotic. edit.. and some scary food for thought is that the display we see before us is the future of this country/world. Lol. But seriously..i rarely see anything of substance around here. all the really meaningful posts get pretty much skipped over while the posts of people saying things like "dude i got so stoned this weekend i smoked like a quarter of some dank blah blah blah" gets like 15 pages of replies. i dont understand it. i guess i really dont understand why mental substance doesnt seem to appeal to the majority of youths.. dunno:toetap:
now oyu know how i feel, but not just youths, it seems to go up till someones 30 :/ oh and the greatest thing is, the guy probably smokes a gram of shit weed, and makes a thread boasting about a quarter with no pics of the bud or anything
I like sillyness and being stupid a lot too sometimes..its fun and carefree..but it shouldnt be the only things ever discussed y'know. When someone mentions something of substance it shouldnt be shot down or made fun of. Im also not too sure whats up with the constant arguing from some people..its like no one can post anything without certain people coming in behind them and acting like they are soooo much better than they are and belittling them for sharing an idea or opinion...ahh..i dunno.. Like I told someone earlier.. the internet is a haven for people who feel bad about themselves to project their insecurities onto people who they dont know personally and will more than likely never have any personal dealings with, so they feel they can do it without feeling guilty or really caring because, to them, people are just a name on a screen and sort of dont exist in their own mind. im so tired im delirious, obviously lol.
all i can say is it must be because shools out for summer, they shut of the mind till they need it again, they sit around bored with nothing to do they think theyre smoking to stimulate theyre minds & make everything in the universe more interesting, yet thought provoking posts challenge them to turn theyre minds back on, but the stimulation of the mind they sought has a very interesting effect. instead of making everything more interesting as it should (when the mind is turned on) it has the effect of making only the siplest things more interesting & the thought provoking becomes tediusly hard to understand or respond to. "dude i just coughed so hard i puked" is interesting because you can say any stupid thing you want in responce "eww it stinks in here" mission accomplished the brain was mildly entertained for a whole 2 seconds. at the same time a post that provokes thought like a detailed history of the origins & use of chilums which should interests stoners invites you to discuss a broader spectrum of ideas but with a specific focus on chillums. this requires opinions, alitle understanding of the concept & the ability to express a thought more complex then "pack me a green hit i want to get stoned" ofcourse some people are only confortable in the realm of mindless statements
it is always more simple and acceptable to the masses to go with the crowd, to conform instead of creating your own ideals and really challenging the mind no wonder the state of the world is the way it is.
delerium rocks im there myself read this while delerius http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3542163 pure brilliance but on to your point, i absolutely hate that statement "dude its the internet get over yourself" the internet is people, millions of people not just yourself they act like only what they say matters, seeing theyre words on screen makes them exist. they dont realize that every other word written is written by a person, a person with feelings & ideas & some people have serius issues to discuss i see threads that are deadly serius, life & death situations.. serius mental emotional or health concerns that are constantly replied to with amazing stupidity & insensativity & always the excuse is dude its the internet nothing you say matters. i've seen threads on suicide, the original poster lying unconceise on the floor near death & idiots responding with yea you should die for wasting my time reading your pathetic nonsence die die die & they think this is hilarius after all, its just the internet, whats it matter if the person whos words they read day after day dies, hes only a concept, not a real person, pixels on a screen, his life dont matter as long as i can laugh at his words & feel superior.. thats what it comes down to, they get pissed at whatever isnt entertaining theyre unimaginative minds. but give them a good ol thread about puking & they;ll be entertained for hours. i wonder how fulfilled theyd feel if everything important they did in life led to an obituary like "he left behind random meaningless pixels on the screen" or just "easily forgotten" drunkdude feels justified in his stupidity because look at all the attention hes getting, stupidity says hey look at me!! but gives niothing of importance to look at.. ya have a kid waving his hands in the air screamming notice me notice me & thinks that because u looked hes actualy accomplished something. but is being noticed & dismissed as a minor annoyance any real substitution for being liked & valued?
your making alot of good points you should explore delerium more often laziness & complacency dont talk to me about cartoons lowering the iq of teen agers while spongebobs on staring blankly & laughing hystericaly at nothing is so much easier then wrapping your brain around a concept & giving it thought.
I like this because on the page just before it someone had been replying in the extremely mature nature of - "STFU" for reply no 1 and "STFU" for reply no 2 I'm not insecure and i dont use the internet to hide from my mess of a real social life. I am happy, i'm not a slave to meaningless possessions as Reverend kindly assumed every kid under the sun is and again may i please say to you all - Being older doesn't mean you're better. It seems perfectly alright for all of you to keep pulling the "Oh they are jus 15 yr old kids smokin pot l0l0l0l" when at the end of the day, because you've existed longer makes you no better than any of us. Or does your hippy everyone is equal attitude only apply to people you are supporting and therefore everyone else is a capitalist loving schmuck. I wasn't going to let her try and make me look stupid, i'm sorry if i am the worst for carrying on this pathetic argument but that woman is just silly and yet because she's "mature", thats all right then is it?
Let this one soak in, its not meant to be derogatory. He edited the post -> he got the message. He is a minor you are an adult - unless it is a way to fill your day you are obfuscating the valid points that you had initially made in addition to actually provoking further confrontations. I have seen you try and help a few of the really messed up kids and yes in your own bullet-headed way care for smokindude's future. However, being a self appointed mentor, rolemodel, etc... only works if the other party is open to receive the advice. Lots of hate going around here brother - no one needs that. BTW my grey hair sez we are the same age and I only whine when I have to mail the mortgage
i told her to reply that way, but not in this thread that was in reply to digitaldjs amazingly wonderfulk thread about lorna claiming she had nothing to say so everyone should reply to every thing she said with stfu so i suggested that thread was a great place to say everything she wanted to say, noone would attempt to debate her only respond with stfu & if they tried debating her she could reply stfu simple way to fight stupidity & still state your point noone said you were stupid your posts are inteligent & thought out but people were calling her stupid just because they didnt understand her. read this thread http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3542163 and tell me, are these the thoughts of a mindless moron like so many stated? ofcourse some would never read that much, ever, so skim it for a few minor spelling mistakes they can use to "prove her dumb" i know your 1 wise enough to take a closer look & try understanding even if you cant understand it all (at 5 am alot was dificult to me as well, not having a background in physics & quauntum theory & all)
@ Splosh Age is nothing to do with it. Many people on these forums have a lot of well thought out and intelligent arguments and age doesn't come into that. And like I said before, I'm quite young myself (or at least I like to think so), I'm (only just) closer to your age than I am to soaringeagle... I wasn't insinuating that all people your age are obsessed with physical possesions just that the culture of the latest gadgets etc has spawned such poisonous 'I've got mine and he's got his' attitudes. People not wanting to listen to the opinions of others and disagreeing just to disagree not because they can actually articulate themselves with reasons for their attitudes: Again, another symptom of this me me me tv video game attitude, not having to think or be imaginative; short attention spans. I want and I want now and not knowing how to behave when they don't get what they want (or the desired response) The reason people will keep pulling the "it's just 15 year olds smoking pot" line is because they are conforming to that dumb stereotype left, right and center. If people were to rise above it and behave tolerantly and with tact then people wouldn't throw that line around so much... I'm sure there's plenty of 15 year olds who can be wise and thoughtful and plenty of older people who can't but in here it just seems like many enjoy living up to the stupid stereotype and are judged thus. I know, I know, forgive them for they know not what they do and all that but it's very frustrating talking to brick walls that can only spit insults back as SE put nicely in post 241. When lorna was telling people to "stfu" it was after banging her head against a wall for 10 pages because no-one had actually listened to her and just took the piss out of her english (an irrelevant subject).
i agree & i think the threads moved on beyond all the silly hatred to discuss a wider concept i guess you could say to some the internet is a connection to many others, but for others its a saftey zone, a disconnection from the reality of other people a sence that they are less real for being virtualy there with you the idea that people dont mater if theyre not there in your face nobody is hating nobody is whinning were discussing a problem that exists with relating thru technology turning off the screen also erases the feelings you hurt, they become unreal..
I think Im glad you are not insecure and that you dont use the internet to project those insecurities..but no one can deny that those people are out there..and they are plentiful. You arent too much younger than me..<3 I guess I missed out on most of this argument..lol. Probably not a bad thing either. :bigear: YOU GUYS BE GOOD!! Lord have mercy.
Ok..lol.. I just did my homework on this thread... Ive got quite a bit of respect for a good few of you guys posting here, and I think this argument is so beneath you all. Id like to take the time to remind everyone here that NOTHING that is said here on this forum should be taken personally because regardless of what anyone says about you, no matter what insults they throw at you...IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE REALITY OF YOUR SITUATION OR WHO YOU ARE. So it really shouldnt matter. It certainly shouldnt matter enough to seriously disrupt any sort of harmony here. People are going to be people. People are going to insult, and diss, and what have you.. Thats just human nature. Most of these things..we just have to take with a grain of salt because they really dont matter. Everyone should chill out and really think about something that really does matter in their life in the long run, im sure the argument in this thread certainly wont matter in any of your lives three weeks from now So...with that said...keep in mind that... You guys be good. Harmony is always better than disharmony..so..if someone insults you, either say what you have to say back if you really have to reply and then be finished with it..or just ignore it altogether, because negativity should never be given this much attention. And, like I said, when it comes right down to it, nothing said here about anyone really reflects anyones personal lives or who they are or the life they lead outside of this forum. Nothing negative said about any of you guys is going to effect change in your reality. With all of that said... Lets, everyone be the bigger man and just let it be. No more negativity here.. Theres been enough of that in this forum the last couple days... So if this thread is at the top again..let it be something positive!
^^ i really like that picture, i lol'd BUT i feel that i must invent a time machine and regain the time lost to read this thread. im a bit confused about the hostility, but i guess i missed something, oh well, bye
wow, seeming as your such a nice, intelligent and generally happy person, that pic is kinda mean. i laughed the first time i saw it (6months ago on a different site) but your the person i least expected to make a retard joke :/
I'm sorry Rev but i really dont see how Lorna herself was being tolerant and tactful calling me a "Fucking disgusting neo-nazi" and telling me i suck dick. What about if my dad had died choking on a dick, i could have been grossly offended by that comment. She also claims to be all for free love, no discrimination etc yet by making jokes about sucking dick, she is pretty much dissing gays right there. I realised why people kept pulling the "lol @ 15 yr olds" card but it is still a really crap thing to use against someone, its tbh, just as crap as insulting Lorna's english. Everything the "kids" have said wrong, the "adults" have aswell just in another way. No one here should be proud of themselves because arguing on the internet is trivial, pathetic and really just a good excuse to flex your e-penis. Having said that, there are times when it must be done. I haven't got a problem with SE or anyone else except Lorna, because she keeps posting non-sensicle, utterly pointless posts. Its not like shes even arguing for a cause any more she is just telling people they're nazi's because they realise that countries exist. She hasn't popped up today tho...... High five anyone?