Yeah I guess that would work, I'm gunna have to buy a bong though cuz all I have right now is a bowl, I still don't understand how that milk jug works though, it looks like smoke is coming out of that straw and how do you get rid of the smoke when you want to use it again?
it's not really a practical solution just sumat I did when I was bored. There is a little bit of smoke that comes out the straw, but the theory is that not much will cause it's at the bottom of the carton and smoke rises. That was a big bong hit too, that homemade pipe I nicknamed the 'death pipe'.. using a hipflash funnell as a makeshift bowl, makes a humongous bowl. So a smaller hit probably wouldn't leak too much smoke. When you're done you put it outside or something and empty it out. To be honest it stank after one hit and was highly impracticable, but that's only cause I could smoke away anyways.
to my knowledge nothing gives real hallucination cept dpt, dmt and those weird flower things that're shit. Just visuals and a weird weird headspace I think.
I knew this was a popular one but I didn't know the effects are supposed to be that grand. Makes me want to try it, but I don't want to inject. I guess snorting would be my other option?
About that water jug thing with the straw couldn't you just not have the straw and exhale the smoke in the jug and then when you're ready to take a hit just recycle the smoke that's in the jug?
You need a hole in the jug so that the smoke can enter and clean air can leave. The straw just makes it so it take longer for the smoke to start leaking out. And I would never recycle smoke, specially out of that milk carton >_< smelt foul.
electric cheese, what is that you guy ate at the end of your video? ice cream with melted chocolate and butter?! yeah, i knew salvia was a dissociative, but i get the impression that it's sort of in a class of its own. dissociatives in general don't sound like they're for me. i've been to the point where i use psychedelics like 2ce or LSD almost habitually, at least more than i think is "good," so i probably don't need to be getting into stuff that is recognized as somewhat addictive. i've seen from a few regulars around here that MXE usage is a bit compulsive. not to mention, i refuse to inject or snort anything. guess i'd be a plugger if i were to try it
Twas a chocolate chip flapjack that was microwaved to get the oats all hot n then with a dairy milk n white chocolate on top that was grilled with ice cream round the edges sprinkled with hot chocolate powder and the lil bits you get at the end of a box of Frosties. I know, it's bad, but at least there wasn't butter! I thought this about it too and didn't want to try anything that would be like mephedrone all over again, but I ended up ordering a G and sharing it out with friends n never touching it again. I don't want to say either way but I think if one were to go into it with the mind of just trying it to see then he could come back out of it having tried it.
Wow. This story of your "trial" with mxe made me literally wince many times lol. This is basically a train-wreak when it comes to set and setting. Sorry man but I don't see how you could have enjoyed any drug at ALL in these conditions. LSD would have been terrible. Alcohol would have been terrible. Anything would have been terrible You're talking about the movie Irreversible, an extremely violent and graphic movie that has a famous very long anal rape scene with Monica Belluci. Just because something comes in powder form and you can snort it, doesn't mean it's cocaine and you're supposed to do a tiny bump over and over again, that's another common mistake I see in the drug scene. "I DID snort 70mg, I snorted 10mg every hour all DAY! It sucked!" not the same Every single RC you buy is going to say that. It's for legal purposes, as these are not approved for food/drug consumption by regulatory bodies like the FDA, that's why they're sold as "plant fertilizer" and such. RCs tend to be MUCH purer, and you're basically locking yourself out of 99% of drug possibilities by only sticking to what you bump into on the street, which is usually going to be the same stuff over and over again. I am sorry but the only junkie here is the junkie who is using them to escape reality. Dissociatives can be just as deep and rewarding as psychedelics, don't color them with your own abuse of them. That's like saying opiates are terrible and we shouldn't use them for pain control because they are abused by junkies who waste their lives on them. Conflating the abusive personality of a certain SMALL subset of users with the actual properties and potentials of the compounds themselves. I get what you're saying here but I can't help and feel uncomfortable saying "set and setting are irrelevant". There's a big difference between K holing in the new york subway system on a whim after a party where you broke up with your SO, and setting up an amazing K hole experience in your home with music and supplies handy and really getting into it. Set and setting is never irrelevant, unless of course you're not using the dissociative for psychedelic reasons, you are using it for junkie reasons. In which case yes, set and setting is irrelevant, since you're ingesting them to escape your own set and setting. So there's no difference between 20mg of ketamine and 300mg of ketamine? I think there is a profound psychedelic difference, the former dose is like a light alcohol buzz, the latter dose is a fully immersive out of body experience through mathematical reality. Not trying to insult you but I always get this sense that you are paradoxically always putting down dissociatives (they're garbage, they are junk, kiddie pool stuff) yet you compulsively inject them, these days mostly MXE (which you apparently think is worse than K, which you've stopped injecting ). Maybe you hate them for what they are to you in helping you abuse yourself but I always feel I have to step in and shed some perspective on your dissociative comments, from the viewpoint of someone who doesn't use them abusively. I know a few K heads, it's really sad, they drain their wallet almost as bad as an opiate habit, and they do use it for that shallow buzz, which is all they can get from it pretty much due to long term tolerance. But damn man, don't you remember when you first started doing them? Surely you were blown out of the galaxy by your first k hole. Dissociatives don't give "visuals" the same way psychedelic do, it's a lot more like dreaming. You wouldn't say dreams are visuals, more like closed-eye vivid imagination. I've had real hallucinations on 2c-b, 4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt, mushrooms, LSD, 2c-e . . . basically every single psychedelic can do it. DMT just has a particularly immersive variety of them. It has almost no burn at all and because it's so potent there's not a lot of drip either. If I had to recommend a first substance for someone to snort MXE would be a great candidate. I've seen a few users on here abuse serotonergic psychedelics in ways I literally did not think were medically possible. Why won't you snort anything? It's a perfectly safe and efficient orifice to place drugs in.
Why does erowid lists the same dosage for oral and snorting? Every drug i know that can be taken both ways snorting it is alot more potent.
There is a difference in the quality of the effects without question which is why I don't know why you bother with these little bitch doses of Mxe. But in regards to what I take away from the experience there does not seem to be much of a difference. You got some pure ketamine to offer me for the same price as MXE Writer? Ill gladly pay that amount + $10 for your services. About the junkie nonsense your spewing, I already said it's junk to me in that paragraph. A couple months ago I was addicted to Ketamine because "I wasn't dosing high enough" now i'm dosing 3x the amount of the average user with MXE and still fiending :rofl: I like getting fucked up on disassociatives, I'd probably enjoy getting fucked up on heroin/opiates and meth too but I don't think recommending others to do so is responsible on my part.
I'm already venturing thru the big and dandies but in the meantime would someone care to comment on the duration and tolerance? I'm not really a fan of erowid stats.
i just prefer not to put things up my nose. i used to get regular nosebleeds, got diagnosed with a deviated septum, i currently have a severe dry patch of membrane in my nostril that hurts if my nose gets pressed on in a certain way... i'd rather not make it worse by snorting stuff. and it's not exactly "perfectly safe" man. weren't you just saying how it by passed the liver and first pass metabolism. and to be fair / honest, when i said some members here that use MXE compulsively, i was kinda thinking about you. no offense at all, but didn't you take some just to clean your room? seems like you took it a couple times in one week, more often than you might take a serotonergic. i'm not trying to say you have a "problem" or anything though.
