Minorities in america are under attack.

You’re right we are

I just spent saturday afternoon hiking with a few friends in the white mountain national forest and we mugged several hikers along the way including the gang rape of a 16 year old girl hiking with her parents

We just couldn't help ourselves it's in our genetic makeup

Hotwater

 

If someone wants the Goverment to live within its means ( me ) is that considered racist ?

In todays NY Daily News, Stanley Crouch has an inflamitory collum equating folks who seek spending restraint with racists! It is a broad crude brush that paints me as a racist.

Seems like somebodys gravy train is being threatened.

I am worried that there will be no more social security available in a few years.

What happened to all of those idealistic crusaders who fought self-dealing and corruption in capitalistic enterprises? Seems that when the prosecutors get around to addresing goverment corruption they circle the wagons and cry racist!

I kind of expect capitalistic enterprises to be corrupt money grubbing organs; kinda comes with the territory. I hold goverment service to a higher standards of conduct.

The screeching on the hard left is evidence that everyday people are taking a closer look at what the tax dollar purchases and goverment borrowing to bail out special interests.

Since when is a Hippie supposed to be in sympatco with self-dealling pols?

P.S. I live in New Jersey

 

Most people debate the issues, you make personal attacks. There is too much of that going on here in these forums and way too much in our political climate to have a sane debate on issues. In case you haven't noticed, those who make personal attacks are the ones nobody listens to.

Was that so difficult? And all without personal insults.

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America is not so totally racist to prevent hundreds of Nigerians from moving here and establishing themselves (& family) as businessmen. These immigrants are all about the money; they did not cross the oceans to punch somebody else's clock.

It is a pleasure to work with someone with enthusiam and a can-do attitude. I figure that with all of its faults, America remains a better place than where all of our immigrants are comming from. Immigrants are evidence of that.

If anybody remembers who Amodou Dialo was, he was a small time capitalist who moved here from Africa with his family; busting hump to put bread on the table and to build a better life. Shame what had happened to him.

 

I remember. Latent racism became very overt in his case. It was sick.

 

Doesn't change the fact there's still a hell of a lot of racism in America.


Though we have less than western Europe I'd say.

 

i would humbly disagree with mr crouch

you are in fact a classist

 

Ya Madcap: there is racism in America.

It seems though that some crude boorish behavior seems to get classified as racism when it is just that: crude boorish behavior.


Ya Scratcho, Mr. Diallo was shot 3o times in that NY storage facility. Springstien wrote a song about it.

 

"Social pathology includes: substance abuse, violence, abuses of women and children, crime, terrorism, corruption, criminality, discrimination, isolation, stigmatisation and human rights violations."
http://www.qcsr.uq.edu.au/template/Context/Societal%20Organisation/Social%20Pathology_Intro.htm

Skin color does not cause one to commit crimes, nevertheless blacks have high rates of crime, illegitimacy, and welfare dependency. They tend to perform poorly in school. This reinforces negative attitudes about them.

 

you meant:

 

Damn, I guess I have to do this for you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social+pathology

Or, in layman's terms, an illness of society.

The list that you provided are some of the effects of a society's "Social Pathologies."

Looks to me like you're arguing against yourself.

I guess you've never stopped to think that the "negative attitudes about them" just might be the cause of the problems you listed.

For anyone interested in the full text of The Scribe's link:

This is a really poorly worded explanation of the effects of Social Pathology.

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I don't think you are Cherokee. Or not very mentally stable. Because if you truly are proud of your lineage, NO ONE can "make" you ashamed of it.

I am aware of MY history, thank you very much.

 

It's a phrase meant to show disgust for remarks indicating that one has forgotten so easily the tragedies bestowed upon common ancestors. I'm proud enough to never forget the stories of suffering at the hands of people who thought they were less than animals.

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You know jack, I can appreciate that sentiment.
On the flip side can you see how people hanging on to the attrocities perpetrated upon thier ancestors is yet another way in which prejudice and racism is sustained in our society?

 

I do see both sides of the coin. I don't consider myself on either side, rather on the edge. I don't hold anyone today accountable for what happened in the past, but I do see that the problem is still with us to a degree that causes some people to suffer needlessly. Forgive, but don't ever let it happen again is my mantra.

The superior attitude of "Manifest Destiny" is still alive and well throughout the world, and thriving in the business community and the Tea Party here in America. On the one hand you have the business community that exploits minorities for cheap labor, and on the other hand you have the racist Christians who not only feel their god has given them a superior position in life, but minorities exist to serve their needs.

There is a wonderful documentary that aired on PBS called "We Shall Remain," which tells the history of the American Natives from their prospective, their history. I forget how many episodes, but it took 2 DVDs on 6 hour format to record it all, something like 8 to 10 hours total, no commercials. The authors did a wonderful job of weeding through all of the history that was rewritten by our white Christian government to get the truth of what really happened and why.

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^^^I'd like to see it. 'cept usually stuff like this usually just causes me depression.

I'm tellin' ya'll, we were at our social/cultural peak as humans Pre-agricultural...

ZW

 

Yes, thats it exactly, don't ever forget it, but get over it and move forward.
Sadly there are still those who can not get over emotionaly what happened decades or even centuries ago.
Oh and for the record, I am also part Native American, Choctaw.
My great grandmother witnessed her father and brothers get murdered for refusing to give up the land they owned. She reluctantly married a German basically to survive. This was around the 1880's. Don't have any more details than that, really wish I did.

 

The Dawes Rolls
(Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory)

http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/tutorial/dawes/rolls-index.html

Many Natives registered for this census, but many thought it was just another tool of the Federal government to use for future roundups and massacres. I can't find my family here, but I may not have the right name. It is fun to look through these "rolls," though, for the historical value.

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Thanks, will have to dig into that and see. My sister did a geneology about a decade ago, I need to touch base with her to see if she came up with anything more.

 

It's well worth the time and tears to see the truth of what really happened. For example, our myth of the first "Thanksgiving," a holiday that I refuse to celebrate. For me, it explained the values that my father taught me and why that side of my family was the way they were. This history is probably the most determining factor of who I am. While I was raised "white," the values I hold dear filtered down from the Cherokee experience.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/weshallremain/the_films/index

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