Militant atheism is a joke.

The guy in the video, Niel, says we're stardust. Poetic and preached, but I can actually see how what he said can be possible. Could relate to evolution too I bet for the Darwinist people out their.

Thats actually what I meant lostthoughts lol. False hope for sure, but it is still hope. My dad had lots of this, and it kept his attitude positive always and it did give him feelings of love that he shared with the entire church and especially me and my sis before he left.

It's messed that everyones closed minded. Even more messed that I am too, along with the people who are certain they're not.

 

Lol, closeminded e.g. /\
I "thought" athiests had no beliefs before. That's close minded for sure.

 

Actually, that quote in the beginning of the video (We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die, because they will never be born), is extremely inspirational to me. I keep it in my wallet. I put it there to help me quit smoking, but I kept it, because it reminds me to LIVE my life. I wouldn't say necessarily that it gives me faith, but that it gives me a similar reassurance.

 

Duck, I really like that video, thanks for posting

 

Agreed man, thanks. I'm trying to remember everything the guy said. He was even on Colbert report haha.

 

The defining principals of a religious group is not that they believe in god.

Rather...theism is a components of a much broader range of principals that include ethics and politics among other things....

Furthermore, I don't think rejecting a belief makes anything clear, or says anything at all really. At least to people who don't understand the implications, or don't want to understand them.

I knew what atheist, christians, jews, muslims, and hindu's believed in by the time i was 15, and I was only wrong about one of them.

 

Which one?

 

Atheism.

 

The only more defining about the group, is which text and translation that they follow.

Orthodox Jews don't work or travel on Sundays because a certain fellow told them not to.

Certain Christians hate gays because (or validate it because) God once said not to spill your seed -- certain other Christians tolerate gays (or validate their lack of hate for gays) because another form of that God said to "Love thy neighbor".

With one cornerstone.

It makes one thing clear -- that one does not believe in any god -- which makes another thing clear -- that one's dogmas, ideas, and beliefs are not attached to any particular religion.

Saying you're Jewish doesn't make anything all that clear either -- seeing how there are major differences in popular sects of Judiasm.
But it does make this clear - you don't believe Jesus is the messiah.

 

The god of religion does not denote authority past fear of retrobution. You seem to be under the impression that god alone is justification for "loving thy neighbor"

Why should I be afraid of god?

In the 7th grade, a bully that had been antagonising me and my friends for several months pushed me and told me to go play basketball somewhere else. He was much, much bigger than me.
I punched him in the face.

Who you choose to obey is your descision, but dont act like gods power and wrath are reason for it.

Jehovas witness's usually call themselves by that name.
That being said: Atheist are not the only people in existence capable of misrepresenting themselves.

Their are plenty of people who just dont know the name for what they believe in. Atheism is never the name for this.

 

I have to admit, I don't understand your point, or how it relates to my previous post at all.

 

I question gods authority because i dont know what else you could mean when you propose that god is a defining entity of religion.

In other words: I am trying to explain why religion isnt about god.

I am doing this by exposing the illusion that god is at all relevant.

 

Well then, if anything you should be telling a story about punching your mom in the face..

I don't think you have explained your point very well.

Because you punched a bully once -- Christianity, Islam ('submission to God'), Muslim ('I submit to God'), and Judaism ('People of praise' roughly) have nothing to do with their god?

You said: "The god of religion does not denote authority past fear of retrobution."
But how is that not the centerpiece of any religion?
'How your daily life will affect your spirit life'
And when you have a monotheistic, monarch of a religion, like any of those 4 - how your daily life will affect your spirit life is absolutely inseparable from 'how is your relationship with (insert god's specific name)?'

 

there are religious groups that do not believe in god or the afterlife.

 

Maybe 1 out of a thousand -- none I've heard of -- but then, what makes them religions and not philosophies?

 

"What do YOU know about my sins? Have you been stalking me?"

"I'm not aware that I HAVE any sins."

"I don't believe in sin."

"Sins are for sissies."

"Are you aware that I'm about to close the door and do something more interesting than talking to you?"

"Are you aware that I don't give a shit?"

"Are you aware that some people actually do FUN things on Saturday afternoons?"

Or simply:

"So I've heard! Have a nice day!" Then shut the door.

I could go on and on...

 

Buddhism, especially in its Theravada form, is the best example of a godless religion. Others are Confucianism, Jainism, and Taoism, which don't include a concept of god(s) as the term is usually used (i.e., supernatural intelligence). Whether or not these are religions is a matter of semantics. They are generally classified as such, and would differ from philosophy mainly in terms of the extent to which organized, group-shared practices and rituals are emphasized. But I'd say it's a pretty fine line.

 

He said 'god or the afterlife'.

As far as Buddhism, most forms are very concerned with the afterlife, and therefore; easy to consider as a religion.

 

If we can agree that atheism is a component to buddhism the matter is settled.

 

After looking it up - I suppose I'd agree - but I only know as far as Wikipedia is telling me.