methoxetamine is just...

yea...just a low dose 2C-C plugged (maybe 15mg) about an hour into the experience.

 

I'm thinking of swallowing 20mg of 2ce and then plugging 80mg of MXE an hour later. Has anyone mixed 2ce and MXE before? How is it visually?

 

From my first 25mg test dose I have to say I see where everyone's coming from . . . this stuff is insanely good!!!

 

Can someone describe this for a dissociative noob? I have only tried DXM (very high doses a few times, moderate doses a few other times).

Is this (and ketamine) essentially a stronger, cleaner DXM or are there distinct characteristics? How is psychedelically? What would you say the standout effects are? I got sick of DXM, I am not sure if that would result in my disliking other dissociatives or not.

The way you guys describe it has me intrigued.

 

I've never taken k, but can tell you 'tis quite different.

DXM is going to be more "spiritual", people use it for "shamanic" reasons, in higher doses you end up with entity contact experiences and that sort of thing, and binging can result in things like sigma, while on K you just get more fucked up and may or may not k-hole, depending on tolerance and how far apart your doses have been.

I've never taken K so I can't say it's "less psychedelic", but I would hazard that that's a reasonable guess (though of course, neither are psychedelic in the manner of LSD or mescaline) because K is a tranqualizer, it's used in emergency room visits as a sedative and in vet medicine, it was chosen for it's potential to put people under, or partially so that they can be somewhat monitored (K-holeing)

This difference, where you can re-dose and binge without destroying your sanity, seems to be what lets peoples K habits get out of control and form an addiction. There's nothing to limit heavy use.

</bullshit> Don't listen to me, I haven't been there or done it, I just like thinking I know.

 

I have not taken MXE

They all have different characteristics like psychedelics. Ketamine can make you hallucinate some pretty crazy stuff like Dxm apparently can (I've never taken Dxm doses too high) It can be just as 'spiritual' if you want to call it that, certainly a drastic, unique alteration to perception.

I'm not sure if you said you got sick OFF Dxm or sick of Dxm but ketamine can definitely make people sick although I would say it's more euphoric than Dxm is. I've never puked on it myself but I've seen people running (roboing) to the toilet and holding buckets up to their face on a few occasions on ketamine, even when they were pretty much all but unconscious. I reccommend a sitter for your first k hole maybe.

4-me0 pcp was more of like a euphoric disassociative maybe like the 'ecstasy' of disassociatives. Subtle visually but very energizing and dancing is a lot of fun on it, ROBOT ROCK!

Then of course there is good ol nitrous... waaa waaa waaa waaa waaa waaa

Until I find PCP (actual stuff) I'm not trying MXE that's the rule i'm holding myself too, but it sounds like a fantastic disassociative from what people are saying here

 

That's a wild quest. Isn't PCP hard to come by these days?

You should try Methoxetamine, I think you would love it. There's a lot of positive reviews from people who have tried IM Methoxetamine.

 

I think PCP is fairly hard to come by, maybe some of these analogues and other disassociatives will renew interest in the compound in the following months/years.

I know I'd love it but I really am sticking by the lessons learned from my last San pedro trip in regards to disassociatives. The fact im even considering it means I know it must be a good one but the healing and learning power of phen/trypt psychedelics trumps the healing and learning power of disassociatives for me, so I'm sticking with the psychedelics on this one.

 

Huh? I don't think I have heard about that experience. Did you write a trip report?

 

Indeed

http://www.hipforums.com

 

Nice trip report!

Mescaline sounds so intriguing. I have ~275mg mescaline at home. I just need to find the time to do it and I don't really know if the dose is too light. I would love the first time to be a full blown mescaline experience.

 

I would say that's too light for a full blown trip. I also think there is something unique about the full cactus experience versus the extract I tried last weekend. I'm not one of those hardcore natural psychedelic enthusiast but I must say that it feels much different to me, the extract is not as full and deep feeling.

Like when I do shrooms I feel they are taking over my mind, San pedro has a guiding feeling to me as where the extract felt like somewhere in between a good mdxx and a 2cx. I didnt dose too high with it but I've had fairly low dosed San pedro trips as well to compare too. But mescaline is pretty awesome in all forms I've had it.

 

I've just used this preperation guide, and calculated an estimated amount of mescaline. So it's still mescaline in the "natural" way.

http://www.thenook.org/archives/tek/MePedroPreparation.htm

But maybe I should harvest some of my san pedro cacti at home. I think a dose around 400mg would be good.

 

No that's what I'm saying, my extract includes the alkaloids too, so its 'natural' but its different than consuming tea.

Alternating drinking the tea and eating it has been my most efficient method, there is just something about the San pedro flowing through me that I didnt experience in the slightest when I popped my ~200 mgs cap. There were some effects I preffered via the cap though, music sounded crisper and it was a more up experience as where the cacti is really a chill deep body high. I fortunately have access to these cacti full grown so i dunno if I had to harvest it myself I'd maybe be a bit disappointed with the experience as its not a heavy trip in the sense of LSD or mushrooms.

 

Ok.

I have 4 full grown (about the same as yours on the picture) and 3 small san pedro. So i'd maybe just gonna harvest one san pedro and add to the existing powder I got.

But nevertheless it's an experience i'm definitly looking forward to.

 

Woooo boy, can't wait to get paid... Part of me doesn't feel right for doing MXE before trying K, but it's all about availability at this point.

So is the consensus that insufflation is NOT the best/most efficient ROA? (seems to be the most common, though)

 

Would someone post a breakdown of the positive and negative effects please? Also the duration and dose. You know, the important shit

From what I've heard it just sounds like another mephadrone or NRG phase.

 

GB, maybe a higher dose of your extract will be more like the full cactus

 

I doubt it, I've heard others say the same thing, Its just a different trip, like I said I've had a lower dose of the cacti to compare it too. Much like I was trying to get across with 4-ac0 dmt vs. Shrooms there is some undeniable similarities but some undeniable differences too. There is a whole different layer you are straining with the tea. It contains little to no mescaline though which is why you don't take from that layer for extraction.

Not trying to say one is better than the other but its just different.

 

Ahhhh nice, that means you will still have a couple feet leftover to drink some tea too.

Mescaline is a good compound, its definitely something worth looking forward to.