Meditation and marijuana?!

Discussion in 'Metaphysics and Mysticism' started by Psychedelic Moss, May 30, 2005.

  1. JesusChristPose

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    Noob, to unlock the door to your mind you must find the key, then one must remember what way was back to the door. thats how it is with weed. with just meditation all you have to do is open it. of course your gonna get a high from that but some people on here are just looking for a better way...you can only open the door so many times before it gets boooooring. but with weed its a neverending game of hide and seek. :)
     
  2. jack garrett

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    Marijuana can help meditation. Marijuana can also impede meditative awareness.

    Ingesting marijuana with the intent of facilitating meditation can have value. Smoking without intent will simply cause the purposeless version of you to be stoned.

    Pertinent marijuana meditation techniques (that optimize quantity, quality, frequency, mindset, etc) can encourage deep meditative states. For instance, vipassana meditation is based on a mindful awareness of what enters your consciousness. Here, i define "consciousness" as your 5 senses, emotions and thoughts. Marijuana amplifies each of your senses, emotions and thoughts. Thoughts are "louder" and easier to observe without necessarily identifying with them. Emotions are more tangible and their source more clear. Marijuana heightens senses like taste (recognized as increased appetite) and touch (as textures become more pleasing). In turn, cannabis makes it easier to recognize these aspects of consciousness individually while also seeing them as being part of the whole that is "you" (in this world (in this Cosmos)).

    Understanding that marijuana works to intensify both consciousness and internal desires can be valuable. If you pay attention to these aspects of your inner world, pure awareness is easier to recognize. Rest in that awareness... which does not identify with the arising and passing of emotions and thoughts

    Of course, if you prefer to smoke and zone out, then that's a contrasting (unconscious) intent. The difference being that this objective is to space out and leave creative thought and deliberate awareness behind. Marijuana will help you with that too if that's your plan.

    I suspect there is much debate about marijuana and meditation simply because people have observed both extremes. When folks understand how we appreciate this life and the things around us is very much a function of perception, then it should be no surprise that marijuana's consciousness amplifying effects intensify that approach, whatever it may be.

    Infrequent, high grade cannabis use can be the training wheels for meditation and personal insight.

    Recreational pot smoking can be a way to waste away an afternoon with a bag of Cheetos watching cartoons.

    There are plenty of uses in between.

    We have free will. How we choose to use it in this life is up to each of us individually. My personal preference is to accept that marijuana has few negative health side effects (when consumed without smoking), and to use marijuana's potential for creative thought and personal insight in a deliberate and methodical way.


    I hope what i've written contributed a bit to the discussion. This is a topic that is somewhat new but dear to my heart. I wrote this with the best of intentions for everyone who may read it.

    Best wishes.
    ~J. Garrett
    www.MarijuanaMeditation.com
     
  3. Sunandsalt

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    I believe marijuana can certainly help one get into the meditative state, especially for beginners. It is after all a sacred herb that has been used the world over to increase spiritual awareness. And for those that preach a sober mind for meditation, how can you encourage the use of LSD in the same situation? Just as psychedelics were extremely beneficial catalysts for spiritual change in the 60s, people soon began to wean themselves off the drugs and go strictly with the meditation. Certain psychotropic drugs are wonderful stepping stones for seeing what is ultimately possible through meditation.

    Personally, marijuana helps to quiet my mind if I'm having trouble. It works for some and I guess not for others.
     
  4. andallthatstocome

    andallthatstocome not a squid

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    just because some people can make a ritual work without (insert ritual tools here), doesn't mean everyone is at that level just yet. Use what works. obviously, different substances are better suited for different purposes. hallucinogens can be helpful for ritual workings or divination; stimulants can help someone stay alert after an exhausting ordeal (case in point: air force pilots and gunners assigned to long missions receive as part of their briefing kit a small bottle of amphetamines), and if nothing else, marijuana can at the very least help someone wind down from a stressful day at work/school/other obligations.
     
  5. paperairplane

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    aye, smoking IS the act of meditation, it is a spiritual effect, like alchemy or shamanism where the process is meditation appears, like a visualization before the mind within the properties of the world, the within is the same as within without whatever, as the herb burns and the essence freed into the air, mingly and becoming one with the heavens and all things, being distributed to each being, and eventually covering the entire world and universe, though far spread, and one with all things, so the same happens to the soul and again, we come one with God, the eternal spirit, Wankano
    as we realize this, and allow the energy to work with us, and meditate, raising the consciousness within and around us, we break into the plant realm and return the life into our our beings and to the world around us, and complete the great drama which is the work and art of existence itself. on every level all of this occurs on progressively lower and higher scales, but all of it ultimately is just nothingness, light going into light, a vehicle for energy to run its course which is divine regardless, the manifestation is sacred and has been with us since ancient times, its real implications defy the realm of spoken language and can be known only silently, in the realm of pure spirit which buzzes of its own vibration, sometimes its possible to feel, but even the feeling is not it, because it is one with change, and it is where we come from and our destination ultimately, through so many fractal samskaras, finally
    awakening to the undeniable truth of their nature, love

    nam myoho renge kyo

    i came to the realization once, it is the ness herb, which is literally the tree of life, the reason for our being and manifestation, the fruit of life, shamanically lodged between the physical and subtle words in the plant form, through the warmth of the flame activated and brought to its home within our minds, where it lives again, within the forest of the mind

    where it is so blatantly clear that nature is spirit itself

    because the connection is so strong, and still it comes up everywhere the magnaminous strength and wisdom energy of the planet, the universe, the loving cosmos and the Goddess,

    all beings hold fast to love which grows through all the seasons in all the ways, whole and like taoist fool returning to the one
    nurturing all beings in the process, without knowingness, through simple faith, the wordless language
    of one having gravitated to the right place set forth by the spirits and workings of all that had come before to link both insignificantly and with great weight the present moment through interpretation and midwifery of being

    be yourself, because its always changing and happening in some way, in every life situation, thought forms, beings and even entire universes are disintengrating into the great loving either, and ultimately its just like an old dream

    but the wisdom of that dream, the realness of the feeling, the truth within it, the simplicity, is not so far off, its just a strange working within the thick of things, no one calls to reason at large, but Krishna comes forth and they speak then and know, they have all thunk silently this thing and inspired to much but not even knowing, coming to ripen in the fullness of the moon and healing on and healing round and round, the purifying essence, in every form, which enters as the breathe, which is the story of life and the cosmos, in relateable form, because the spirit of the plant speaks in its own way, and lends its strength, and virtue, and it really heals and brings together worlds, people, beings, creation, even destruction, through its associate as Shiva's favorite plant, within its beautiful leaves are the full cycle of incarnation and also the gates to enlightenment, but one must truly devote ones self to the plant and its proper use along with meditation and yoga, but it is possible, as they say, mystical use of herbs in pursuit of the infinite, with the lore of Airmed, and the grace of it all, hey

    shiva shakti
     
  6. tokinchick18

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    i want to try this
     
  7. 9taylz

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    maybe this should be saved for a different thread, i just kinda stumbled onto this site, and decided to give my 2 cents;

    before i recharge my chakras and meditate, i always smoke. it releases my mind from the days worries, and allows me to focus on my core self. my true me. it allows me to connect with the earth, the stars, the sky, all that is life. it allows me to see what is beneath.

    as well, it almost hyperboosts my chakra recharge. my hands honestly feel like theyre on fire, the technique is just intensified:

    http://www.psychic101.com/simple-chakra-charging.html

    if anyones interested,

    so yah, im totally for marijuana and meditation. The Dalai Lama ate meat, which is the first of the five moral precepts; i resolve not to kill, which in a sense, eating, results from its death.

    so, look of this as more of a build your spiritual rituals that work for you, that help you connect as one, be it marijuana, lsd, or sober, whatever. if it works for you, then who's to tell you its wrong.

    "I am the dust in the sunlight, I am the ball of the sun. . .
    I am the mist of morning, the breath of evening . . .
    I am the spark in the stone, the gleam of gold in the metal . . .
    The rose and the nightingale drunk with its fragrance.

    I am the chain of being, the circle of the spheres,
    The scale of creation, the rise and the fall.
    I am what is and is not . . .
    I am the soul in all."

    Rumi, Sufi poet
     
  8. Imaginemore

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    Lets not be closed-minded...

    I think the different strokes for different folks rule applies here...
    Some people are just on a different level and it may take a little "grass" for them to quiet there minds enough to get to a nice level of meditation...

    No one method of doing things is the same for any man in any other faucet in life so why should it be here... It isn't uncommon for a man to think his methods are superior. This is instinctive of men and isn't all bad but lets just remember people are different. Certain things that work for some might not work for others and vice versa.
     
  9. sunshaker

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    i have smoked weed for 30yrs but only smoke at night,for basic meditation that is fine but if you want to go anywhere in dream state it is not adviced, i lay of the weed for 2-3days if i want to enter dream states,if you smoke every day try stopping for 2-3 days and notice the difference with dream control.
     
  10. pa-gan

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    meditation and marijuana does wonders of the summer I smoked some and meditated each time I did and I got into deep meditative trances, when I went into a trance I would see a vision of a beautiful female leading my into what looked like an aztec temple, and many times I would astral project for a while.
     
  11. Driftwood Gypsy

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    I think marijuana is absolutely great for altered mind states and introspective exploration, but I'm a typical Gemini Sun and I've never been one to be able to sit still, sober or otherwise. I do think marijuana definitely facilitates for consciousness expansion and awareness.
     

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