Meat Flavoured Food

Assuming that you are interested in being Vegan at some point due to animal rights/welfare concerned, I fail to understand how eating fish and chickens results in less cruelty. Cows are much larger than chickens and fish, so one dead animal feeds many more people than one dead chicken or fish. By swapping red meat for white meat, IMO, you are engaging in MORE cruelty.

This happens to me all the time. This is not rare. I've been offered turkey burger, fish, shrimp and a myriad of other animals that people thought were "vegetarian" options.

You can claim to be vegetarian all you want, but until you can show me the fish plant and the chicken tree, you are NOT A VEGETARIAN. If you really don't eat much meat (I hear that all the time, and it usually means, "Only 2 or 3 times a day"), then thank you for cutting back on meat. But you are still an omnivore because you are still eating ANIMALS. Period.

 

true story

 

Have You Seen What They Do To Chickens!?!?

 

Chickens are one of the first animals to make me sad... I gave them all up at once, but some are tortured more than others.

 

You're stating your opinions of what defines a vegetarian. Definitions aren't opinions, they're facts. I don't understand how someone can be so ignorant and naive to deny something so clearly written as A VEGETARIAN DOES NOT EAT ANY ANIMAL. You eat animals. Or are fish and chickens not considered animals by your made-up definitions? Your argument is pathetic.

 

Chicken was the first meat I went off, then fish and finally red meat. I wonder if the fact that accepting that chickens or fish are animals like ourselves helps to eliminate red meat as well, rather than the other way around. Sort of starting at the smaller scale of the spectrum and working up to the bigger scale where it is much more obvious...not sure, just a thought.

The chances of the restaurant situation is far more high than low Nightrose. Happens all the time. The trickiest thing is stuff that looks vego to the eye but actually has a meat stock of some sorts in it. It can be very difficult for people to get this sort of thing. However I am thinking it might have to do more wth the fact that people are a bit less likely to cook from scratch and therefore have less understanding of what their food consists of through this rather than a genuine desire to fuck you up. All part of the education of others that you take on when you begin to eat like a minority...it would be interesting to hear from moslems or jewish people how it works for them in terms of eating halal or kosher food.

 

u sure like to cause trouble.

 

I agree...they are not vegetarians because they don't eat red meat..this is such a common mistake....they are people who don't eat red meat....but still consume dairy i'm assuming....but they are still omnivores...

anyways..i wouldn't go as far to say she is not welcome here...just cause she's different..i don't discriminate....i judge, LOL but don't treat people differently cause i don't agree or what not...i know it's a veg forum, BUT
maybe she is an aspiring veg and she needs our support, not critism.....

 

I'd like to add that at the local chinese restaurant, the dish called 'vegetarian delight' actually has little pieces of beef sprinkled in with the vegetables. Luckily, I spotted this and complained that it is a non-veg item on the vegetarian menu. It happens a lot more than you would think, but the more knowledge you gain about the lifestyle, the easier it is, for example, learning to spot things like casein, whey, natural flavors, knowing that refried beans in restaurants usually contain lard, etc. etc. It seems hard to be vegan at first, but the more you educate yourself on the subject, the easier it is.

And also to Nightrose: You aren't a vegetarian YET. But I commend you for your efforts.

 

I'm with you nightrose. I think everyone needs to just slow down and get off their high horse. Yes, they are correct. You are not a vegetarian as such, but are selective about what you choose to eat. I think that's to be commended. The point is, you asked a question and have been attacked for giving yourself the wrong label (which, by the way, doesn't answer the question). I am vegetarian and feel very strongly about it but I don't feel I have to get all self-righteous and abuse people when they use the wrong terms. So, just so everyone knows, the question is - is it ok to eat meat flavoured food if you are supposedly 'vegetarian'? The answer is: there are many artificial flavours around now that mimic meat, but aren't derived from it. Just read the label and if you like it eat it! Don't be put off by all this petty bickering that seems to be going on. We are meant to be supportive of others in this forum, that includes people who choose not to eat red meat for whatever reason. That's one more person who says no to cow! Isn't that a good thing?

 

wow, I haven't been around here in a while, but damn. I lol'd. I just don't understand why some people believe some meats are not meats.