Mark of the beast: it's here

One who does not believe in God would assume that this book was written by man as pure mind control. However, upon looking at the prophecies (I am sure Campbell has them all listed somewhere), then you would see that there is no possible way for someone from the first century to possess that kind of comprehensive knowledge without a higher being having any direction.

The idea of the implant chip being the mark of the beast was around LONG before the chip was actually made. It is not something modern Christianity has made much mention of, if any.

If you look at Revelations 13:16, you would notice that the idea of head and hand symbolism would not be possible due to the fact that a literal mark must be needed for the act of buying and selling. When applying for a job, a license, etc., one must be in possession of a social security card. That is a literal, numeral mark. Much in the same way, an implant chip/RFID chip possess a numeral code for tracking purposes. The government is not simply going to say, "Your acts are those of a Christian, you must remove yourself from the premesis."

 

Exactly my point. There is no possible way that anyone would have understood what John wrote. So, God says "Here is something that will completely obscure for roughly 1500 years. But I am giving it to you now, even though you will not be able to comprehend what I am telling you." Say what?! What kind of "revelation" is that? A revelation, literally "an unveiling" is supposed to make things clearer. Stop reading Revelation through the eyes of a 21st century Christian and read it as you would if you were living in the 1st century with no knowledge of technology, but an amazing grasp of the Old Testament. Did you know that over half of Revelation is a direct allusion to Old Testament prophecy? Read Daniel's four beasts (the leaopard, the lion, the bear, and the ten horned beast) and the read the beast of Revelation (body of a leaopard, feet of a bear, mouth of a lion, and it has ten horns). Why wasn't the beast explained? Because it had ALREADY been explained in Daniel. The beast of Revelation wasn't some kind of distant future economic union which somehow duplicated what was, at the time of Revelation's writing, the current Roman Empire. It WAS the Roman Empire!

Here's a question, how do you determine what to take literally and what not to take literally?

But your assumptions are getting in the way of your understanding. I would agree that it would not happen now, but it DID happen to the early Christians. They announced publicly (through baptism) that they were Christians (and some were led from the baptism to the guillotine immediately). They were associated with Christians, they were known as Christians, and they were not allowed to buy food based on that alone. They were persecuted, killed, tortured, etc. simply because they were Christians. What references to the tribulation can you find that did NOT apply to the Church of the first century (particularly around 70 AD)?

 

The entire Bible is written in codes and symbols. Yes, God could have chosen to lay it out plain and simple in lamens terms so that we may all understand, but clearly he did not. Jesus quite simply told his apostles that the gift of his spirit would direct them, the same spirit of the Lord that the writer's of the Bible possessed. Revelation is a book of prophecy - a prophetic unveiling of the future. It is not a reflection on the old testament. The Bible moves forwards, not backwards.

During the end times, the roman empire will be revived.

Yes, the holy roman empire was spoken of in Daniel. It is Daniel's interpretation of King Nebuchadnezzar's dream that focused on the five great powers that had world dominion:
gold - babaloynians
silver - persians and medes
brass - greek period (alexander the great)
iron - roman empire
clay - roman catholic church/ holy roman empire
If it had already taken place, Jesus would have returned to carry out his promise of a 1,000 year reign in the new kingdom he establishes on earth (also found in revelation). That has not happened yet and will not happen until these prophecies are fulfilled. When Christ comes back, world government will no longer exsist. It is quite evident that this has yet to come. Look at the parable of the fig tree for example - 1948 - some of those people born then will remain when end is upon us.

If you look at both the image in Daniel's interpretation and the beast that John speaks of in revelation, you will see great differences. I have already gone over what that beast represents in one of Amanda's posts.

Through the Spirit - those who possess Christ's spirit understand, those who don't are riding around on waves of false prophecy and believing in whatever their pastor's dictate to them.

The simple fact that Christ has not yet come back to earth. The fact that no where in the Bible do we see the tribulation and Christ coming out of the sky because it has not yet happened.

 

But it is written in a specific historical context. Look, you keep looking at Revelation as though it was a distant future for John and the 1st Century Church but is an immediate future for us. The thing is that scripture talks about the events of Revelation as "soon", "near", "close", "quickly". In fact, just about every synonym for "soon" that exists in the Greek language has been used to describe the destruction of the temple and the events of 70 AD.

Here are some examples:

Matthew 24:34 – Most assuredly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
Matt 16:28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

Romans 16:20 And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

James 5:8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand…..Behold, the Judge is standing at the door!

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour.

Rev 1:1,3 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place…..Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near…

Revelation 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!


The point to all this is that SCRIPTURE promised to the people of the day that it was going to happen very quickly (within a generation). If it doesn't happen until 20xx then the Scripture (and Jesus Himself) is a false prophet.

You are still interpreting scripture through your futurist model. Loose the model and start using scripture to back up your position. Build your model up from what scripture actually says, not what you think it means.

Sorry, I haven't read it, but the point is that the Roman Empire fit the bill exactly. Why do you think people call it the 'revived' Roman Empire. Why is it necessary for Revelation to refer to a future "Emipire" when the ACTUAL Empire was already there and met all the requirements?

Personally, I think that we should interpret scripture in light of scripture, not according to some feeling that we may or may not have.

No, we don't see the Tribulation in the Bible because it happened AFTER the books were written (hence why it is called Prophecy). But regarding Christ coming out of the sky, Christ said that He would be coming on clouds, not out of the sky. This is Hebrew Judgement language. It is also found in Isaiah:

Isaiah 19:1 – The burden against Egypt. Behold, the LORD rides on a swift cloud, and will come into Egypt; the idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, and the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst.

This has already happened, but do you REALLY think that God saddled up on a cumulous and rode into Egypt kicking over idols? Literally? Of course not. It is understood to be figurative. This is the same language, why, all of a sudden, should it be taken literally?

For some other passages connecting clouds and judgment, see 2 Samuel 22:12; Jeremiah 4:13; Ezekiel 30:3; Nahum 1:3; Zephaniah 1:14-15. It is always used figuratively.

 

Interesting, yet a fallacious theory


What of the two million man army?
What about the third Jewish temple that has still not been built yet? Before any prophecy took place in relation to the end time, the temple would to have to been constructed. Israel is still waiting for the land provisions to do so.

The Bible specifically states that Israel will be declared it's own nation. It has not happened yet.

 

You say the argument is fallacious because I haven't answered all the questions you haven't asked about yet? Why haven't you answered my questions? You still haven't addressed how "soon", "quickly", "near", etc. somehow means "in several thousand years", "in the distant future", "far off", etc.

Two million man army? Where is that in Revelation again?

Ummm... why is it necessary for a third temple to be built? Please tell me you are NOT referring to the Olivet Discourse which was so completely OBVIOUSLY about the temple that existed and was razed to the ground in 70 AD.

Where? Where exactly does it state that?

 

revalations isnt suppose to be read as literal truth its all figurative, theres not gonna be a 1000yr. reign of christ, 1000years simply represents a long period of time look at it being used as such in the ot, his reign is suppose to be happening now he reigns through the church . much of this left behind, evangellical interpretation is based on misunderstanging and propaganda it uses against the catholic church. the catholic interpretation of revalation hasnt change much since it came abot almost 2 thousand years ago, all this fundamentalist bullshit came about in the last half century, where did they obtain such wisdom?

 

"Soon", "quickly", and, "near", can be looked at exactly how the time length of the earth being created in seven days is looked at. Did God create the earth in exactly a weeks time? Of course not. I think you are failing to see that God does not exsist on our time.

Revelation 9:15-16: And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

Who was the non-Jewish leader that stood on the temple mount and claimed to be the Lord during this time? The one who would have ended the sacrifices and offerings, as prophecized by Daniel (Daniel 9:27). Why is Israel set to build a third temple if it was already constructed? (Here is their vision for the temple they are making plans for http://www.templemountfaithful.org/ )

According to Revelation 16:12-16, the Euphrates river shall dry up (the 6th trumpet) When in history did that take place?

Romans 11:25-26 declares that when the Lord returns, all of Israel shall be saved. If this has alread occured, why are there Jewish people there who waiting for his impending birth?

Ezekiel predicted that Israel would be born again in 1948. (In which it became an independant state after it was recognized as it's own country by the United Nations). The fig tree parable of Matthew 24:32-35 speaks of the generation of 1948. No other ancient nation ever ceased to exist for a period of centuries and then returned to take its place on the stage of world history.

The prophecies surrounding the rebirth of Israel did not stop with the declaration of Israel's independence in 1948. Three thousand years ago, God inspired King David to predict that the reborn nation of Israel would be immediately surrounded by enemies, (including the Arab nations of Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Syria) (Psalm 83:2-8). David described the modern states of the Middle East by naming the ancient nations that have now joined with Palestinians in their attempt to destroy the Jewish state in the last days.

Other prophecies in Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 and 17 confirm the revival of the Roman Empire in the last days in the unique form of a ten-nation superstate. Following the devastation of two world wars the leadership of Europe came together after World War II to plan the creation of a confederate form of superstate bringing the major nations of Europe together for the first time since the days of Rome. In 1957, six countries signed the Treaty of Rome laying the foundation for the future United States of Europe. The former secretary-general of NATO, (Henri Spaak), admitted in a BBC documentary on the European Union that "We felt like Romans on that day....We were consciously re-creating the Roman Empire once more." Since then, the Maastricht Treaty consolidated the fifteen nations of the European Union into the world's first superstate. It is now an economic, political, and potentially, a military that will dominate world events in the near future.

Revelation 13: 7-8 says: "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him". Over two thousand years ago the prophets Daniel and John described that there would be a global, world government led by the coming dictator, the Antichrist in the last days (Daniel 7:14). There has never been a world government during thousands of years of human history.

Zechariah 14:12 states: "And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongues shall consume away in their mouth". This seems to speak of the effects of biological and chemical weapons. That surely has not taken place already.

Jesus prophesied that the last generation of this age would witness the greatest earthquakes in history. Other prophets, including Ezekiel, Zechariah, Haggai, and John predicted awesome earthquakes that would precede Christ's return. Jesus said these earthquakes will occur in "diverse places". From 1900 to 1949 we avereged three major earthquakes per decade. From 1949 we witnessed an increase with nine killer quakes in the 1950s,thirteen in the 1960s, fifty six in the 1970s, and seventy four major quakes in the 1980s. Not to mention the earthquake last December that caused the Tsunamis.

Again, how could John have known the technology of the mark of the beast unless inspired by the Lord?

John prophesied that in the future tribulation, the Antichrist will kill two of God's witnesses who will stop the rain for three-and-a-half years. He goes on to declare that the people living around the world will see their deaths and observe their bodies lying unburied for three-and-a-half days in Jerusalem. How would it have been possible for the entire world to witness this event back then? The only way the world could witness this is with transmitted pictures and sound, (i.e. newstations).

Matthew 24:14 says, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come" . This obviously did not take place 2,000 years ago as the Bible is now translated in more than 3,850 languages in every nation, tribe and dialect on this planet.

In conclusion, all I have to say is, "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near" (Luke 21:28).

These things are beginning to happen.

 

Nice post.

 

The number of books in the bible. The beast is man(6) with a bible(66).

 

200 thousand thousand= 200 million, not 2 million.

Please show how Ezekial predicted the year 1948.

Any nation carved out of an opposing populace will be surrounded by enemies. This is something anyone could predict (that one culture driving out another culture (that is prevalent in the area) would cause enmity).

Isn't anyone who focuses attention upon earthly powers instead of God an antichrist?

Ewwhh, grody.

Not according to the USGS: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/faq/myths.html#8

Yeah, maybe Hannity and Colmes are the 2 prophets. Or do you think it is Bill O'reilly and Hannity? Whoever it is, you know that it's gonna be on the Fox News channel.

What if!!! It could be John Stewart!! He's a Jew!!

 

Oh. So THAT is figurative while the rest of Revelation is literal? More importantly, do you think that it is soon or near now? Why not in a thousand years? Why did "soon" for the first century church somehow mean 200 years, but for our generation it means "sometime in the immediate future (like 20 years)"?

Why all the fuss over the microchip? It is the same "mark" thing hashed over again. Our parents thought it was tatoos, and our grandparents thought it would be social security. Given futurists track records, why do you care about the chip? Chances are, given the inaccuracies of past "marks of the beast," well, it just doesn't look good for your position.

Wow, then God's army is seriously outnumbered.

[size=+1][size=+0]Ps. 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

20 thousand vs 200 million. And God's army only has infantry and cavalry. No blackhawks, no cruise missles. Wow! Or perhaps we could just understand that in bother verses what is being indicated is just a large, countless number. By the way, do you think that it is EXACTLY 200 million? Not approximately, but down to the last man, 200 million to a head?

Oh yeah, consider this:

[/size][/size] Jerusalem was originally attacked in the Jewish War by 4 military sections of Cestius, composed of strong cavalry, that came from near the Euphrates to invade Palestine [Ford, 154].

Was it exactly 200 million? No, it probably wasn't. Was it a HUGE force (possibly uncountable)? Yes.

Yep. Titus. Josephus records it for us:

[size=+1][size=+0]And now the Romans, upon the flight of the rebellious into the city, and upon the burning of the holy house itself, and of all the buildings around it, brought their ensigns to the temple and set them near to its eastern gate; and there did they offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus imperator with the greatest acclamations of joy. (War 6.1)[/size][/size]​

[size=+1][size=+0]A note in this edition of Josephus adds that Tertullian remarked that "the entire religion of the Roman camp almost consisted in worshipping the ensigns, in swearing by the ensigns, and in preferring the ensigns before all the [other] gods." [/size][/size]

Because a temple is necessary for making sacrifices! Of course the Jews are going to want to build another temple! It is the cornerstone of their faith!

Still looking for a literal fulfillment of Jewish apocolyptic symbolism? You keep looking for answers that presuppose the correctness of your position. Stop asking "when did x literally happen?" and start asking "is it possible that, given the nature of apocalyptic Hebrew writings, there has been a historical event which could easily be symbolized as x?"

This is so loaded with presuppositions I cannot answer it.

Like Kharakov said "please show how Ezekiel predicted 1948."

Umm... yes there is. Have you forgotten about the Babylonian captivity? Isreal ceased to exist and was reformed later. Isreal has been destroyed and reformed several times. It just that between 70 AD and 1948 AD you have the longest time period.

And again I ask, why does it have to be a "new" Rome when the Roman Empire that existed at the time fits the bill to a tee. The only reason you see it as a "revived" Rome is because you assume that it what it means. You are interpreting the Scriptures in light of your own presuppositions regarding the end of the world. You are begging the question.

Hmm... tell that to the Romans. They dominated all the known world. You want to say that there has never been a government that controlled every global location, I will agree with you, but to say that there have never been governments which controlled the known world at that time is simply inaccurate historically.

You are doing what many futurists do. Selective interpretation. You say we should take it literally. Okay, well then, God himself will cause a disease that will consume someone while they are still standing. If you are saying that it is biological or chemical warfare, then you are still interpreting it as figurative, not literal. Why? Because biological and chemical weapons are delivered by missles, canisters, etc. and are launched by human beings. Not only that, they are not a plauge (which is natural), but a deliberate and calculated strike (whereas a plague strikes everything). So, to be literal, it cannot be a biological or chemical weapon because it would not, then, be a literal plague which was directly delivered by God with no human intervention. Any other reading is not being completely literal, but selectively so. How do you select what is literal? Personal bias and presupposition. Me? I take it as figurative and look for other places in scripture (specifically in the OT) where we have that same kind of prophecy. Then I look for what, historically, was a fulfillment of said other prophecies and look for the same kind of possible fulfillment in history.

And again, you are not answering the question. Given the nature and style of Jewich apocalyptic literature, where does John specifically predict this technology? He doesn't. It is a paradigm which you force on scripture.

Again with the literalism! Here, try this on:

[size=+1][size=+0]In light of the quote from Severus showing that part of Titus' attempt was to destroy Christianity, this is able to be understood as the beast (the Roman Empire) overcoming the Christian witness in Jerusalem (the great city where "our Lord" was crucified -- note as well that it is called spiritually Sodom and Egypt, which suggests that the plagues of Egypt, as noted above, are also "spiritually" applied rather than literally) -- or, we may see here (perhaps more likely) a hint of the Neronian persecution which was the first attempt to destroy the Christian faith (with those in Jerusalem being the Jerusalem church, and men like James the brother of Jesus, being persecuted and martyred). In either case, the Romans probably thought this was a killing blow for the Christian witness, and for a short period (symbolically represented by the 3 1/2 days) thought the mission a success. The idea of not burying the bodies corresponds with the great shame of not being buried; so it is that Rome undoubtedly thought they had put the Christian opposition to shame through defeat.[/size][/size]

And Paul said beware because the gospel HAD been preached in all the world. The idea that is causing difficulty is "the world." Did the author mean "the entire globe" or did he mean "all the known world"? You can believe that he meant the former, but the greek words and context used actually indicate the latter.

Now THAT I can agree with (though that is not the context of what was being said). However, I do not believe we are waiting for a secret return of Christ where He snatches away believers. I believe that all that remains is resurrection unto judgement.

Nice touch of the dramatic.

 

Yeah, sorry, typo... it happens

There are actually several people who used rough calculations to formulate this equation.



"This will be a sign to the house of Israel. Lie also on your left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it. According to the number of the days that you lie on it, you shall bear their iniquity. For I have laid on you the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days; so you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. And when you have completed them, lie again on your right side; then you shall bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days. I have laid on you a day for each year" (Ezekiel 4:3-6).

Each day represents one biblical year. 430 years (390 years plus another 40 years).

"And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins" (Leviticus 26:18; see also Leviticus 26:21, 23-24,27-28). 430 years - first 70 years = 360 years x 7 = 2,520 biblical years x 360 day = 907,200 days (2,520 years).

Taking that equation or leaving it is not exactly the issue. The point is that Israel was prophecized to, and was declared her own nation on May 14, 1948.

In Ezekiel 4:1-7, the prophecy is not only for the "Servitude of the Nation" but also for the "Desolations of Jerusalem." There are also equations for recapture of Jerusalem by Israel during the 6 Day War in 1967.

Thus, the prophecy being fulfilled, signals that when she became her own nation, that generation was the one in question that would not pass until it saw these events taking place.

Ezekiel 37 notes that when the Jews return to their own land they will be one nation under one ruler.... where as before they were split into two lands with two rulers

The importance is that David predicted the exact enemies. How would he have know 3,000 years ago that this would take place? Or more specifically who would be key players? Not to mention that fact that within mere hours after the proclamation of Israel's independence, the armies of Egypt, Jordon, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq with Saudi-Arabian contingents crossed the frontiers of the new state, determined to strangle it at birth.

No, and if we look closely at the Bible, we see that there are 50 prophecies about the antichrist in the bible (mostly in revelations, daniel, and II thessalonians) giving us details.

News broadcasts would be live on the scene within a short matter of time, able to inform the entire world. If these events had taken place in 70 A.D., what form of technology was used to spread this information?

 

Alsharad, you believe the end times have already happened right?

So tell me when was the Babylon of Jeremiah 50 & 51 and Revelation 18 destroyed?

 

Yet it is at the same time to be taken literally? Man, what a mind job...

 

Let me clarify my position here. I believe that MOST of Revelation has already happened in a historical context. I think that we are currently in the "millenium" right now (1000 is a variation of the number of completeness; it simply indicates a very long time) while the enemies of God are being put under the foot of Christ. The last enemy is death and when death is put under Christ's foot, the resurrection will occur. The rapture and the resurrection occur at the same time and we go to judgement. All we are waiting for is for Christ to return like a thief (not announcing His coming) and render judgement upon the earth. Does this mean that there will be no great Antichrist (biblically an antichrist is someone who is against Christ; also, "antichrist" is not once used in Revelation) and no coming Tribulation? No, it doesn't. It is entirely possible. However, it is not necessary as the prophecy has already been fulfilled once. So, instead of pulling information off the newspaper headlines to validate my faith in the coming Christ, I can simply point to history and say "see, Revelation was correct, Christ was vindicated as He said He would be." It solidifies Revelation as being from God (since we can then verify its accuracy) and we can trust completely that we await the final resurrection and judgement and that they are coming. There is no need to look for signs because we know that Christ will be coming like a thief, we cannot look for signs because there will be none.

Honestly, I don't know about the Babylon of Revelation 18. I haven't had a chance to really look at it. This kind of research takes time and usually more skill than I have. However, Babylon of Jeremiah 50 and 51 was destroyed (by the Medes and the Persians who ruled them).

Regarding Revelation 18, it is important to stress that this is symbolic, not the literal Babylon. Even futurists agree with this.

Given the description, it is entirely possible that Babylon refers to Jerusalem. Jerusalem was (and is) a HUGE center for trade. It is on the land bridge that joins three continents. Merchants and kings would of course be upset by such a huge disruption in commerce (as is noted in Revelation 18:9). Given what happened to Jerusalem in 70 AD, that passage speaks well to the wrath poured out on the city.

By the way, it is important to note that no Christians died during the war in Jerusalem (by the way, the war lasted from 67 to 73 AD... hmmm 7 years...). They had fled by that time, just as was predicted.

 

Finally someone who thinks of this as well! And it would make sense actually.. since there is so much diversity amongst Christians (protestants, baptists, catholics etc) they quarrel amongst themselfs, the fundies are barking so loud that the scare away the sheep from the sheppard, so to say.. if there is a God I really doubt that he's happy with the way things have turned out, religion wise.. and it does feel like a perfectly good explanation that 'the great deceiver' makes you believe that the religion 'christianity' is the only true way to God. The more I think of it, the more sense it really makes. But hey, I must be influenced by Satan for saying this, right? Now if you'll excuse me, I've gotta go get some of those nifty chips!



Ofcourse I'm not going to get chipped.. but I was thinking.. it's perfectly normal nowaday to get your pet chipped and I am planning on doing so with me cat.. does that give the cat the mark of the beast as well? She IS kinda wild.. and when she's hunting she IS a true devil....

 

That is part of the problem that I have with the futurist model. The thing is, the scripture has a definite, historical, cultural setting. Does that mean that there are no timeless truths or moral which apply to us? Absolutely not! We want to take things that have a literal context (like the gospels) and interpret them in light of historical documents and other literal scriptures. However, Jewish apocalyptic literature had a distinct and specific style that is consistent throughout the OT. I argue that it is consistent throughout the New Testament as well. Scripture is only a mind job if you decide to arbitrarily decide based on a presupposition what is to be literal and what is to be figurative. However, if you try to use scripture to interpret scripture and look for parallels between OT and NT literature, then, after applying the religious and cultural perspective of the people to whom the books and letters were written historically, you can determine what is meant by the scriptures (specifically the books of prophecy). Having a firm background in history, greek and hebrew definitely helps.

 

Why did you decide to subtract the 70 years, because thats the only way to make it work?
Your equation doesn't make the cut, especially since you take Leviticus out of context (it was a recording of a reprimand from God in the time of Moses, not the time of Ezekiel. The reprimand that Ezekiel delivered was a new one).

Actually, it is the issue. Israel was prophecied to be reborn, but I was asking for a specific prophecy that supports your claim of a date.

I didn't pick that up from Ezekiel 4. Care to support your statement?

Yup, and it also says that God's servant David will be their ruler. There is no David on the throne now, is there? In addition, the legislative branch of the government is ruled by 2 heads: The President Moshe Katzav and the Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Where did David predict the exact enemies?

In addition, is it not obvious that the descendants of the enemies that lived around your land would be your enemies in the future if you drove them out of the land they occupied (the choice land location, present day Israel).

 

The only land worth talking about here is your choad, the real estate betwist your anus and balls/snatch. otherwise known as the assneck or taint.