Mark of the beast: it's here

If you really believe God would let you be harmed for getting a chip.... should God let you buy and sell merchandise? Maybe you aren't ready to have these priviledges if you doubt God. Maybe seeing all of the other people who have the chip (theist and atheist alike) get tangible benefits will cause you to rethink your fundamentalist (read pharisee/saducee/catholic/etc.) position on God.

 

Haha yeah it's more likely they would target people without them and claim them to be sinners and terrorists! This country unfortunately is starting to have some theocratical tendencies... That is not at all a good thing...

 

What the hell made you think I have some sort of fundamentalist position on god?

 

Ok..maybe its an ssumption that these chips are the mark..maybe not..but the fact is, that there WILL be a mark..and it WILL NOT be something we are given a lot of freedom in, the bible tells us that... And dont be fooled..Satan is the great deciever and the mark will of course initially come with lots of perks and such to make you think its a good thing.

 

Though it may be a fact that the bible says so, the bible saying so makes nothing a fact, merely theory and speculation ( or delusion... ). As for the second part of your post, you mean like christianity? Haha Perhaps your whole religion is a deception? As you say satan is the great deciever, and that would be a fairly great deception... I mean I'd laugh! Hehe whatever...

 

well..the whole topic on it being 'the mark of the beast' is a christian reference...and the whole discussion was on the mark of the beast... Im christian so to me, what the bible says is not thoery or specualtion, its truth. ..as for the 2nd part of what you said.... thats just..confusing and really desnt make much sense..are you trying to suggest htat my whole belief system is decieving me into worshipping something that I hate? that..doesnt make much sense...

 

I live by the lyrics of Black Sabbath in my daily activities.

 

Hehe well I wouldn't expect you to understand... That's the idea...

 

Yes, fear is their tool of choice, that and ignorance...

 

Well I understood it, and thought it made complete sense! And I liked how you put it!

There isn't anything that bugs me more than a christian that tries to present their faith as fact. Anything that takes faith to believe cannot be fact. It's a pretty simple idea, really. Yet some want to go around preaching their reigion as fact, when even the bible tells you that it needs to be accepted through faith.

As far as a mark, every generation of christians have had their "mark". When social security was proposed many christian groups had a fit about that (just like with these chips) claiming it was the mark of the beast. My church once said tattoo's were. Then they wanted to say credit cards were.

Christians would do a lot better if they stopped preaching hellfire and doom to scare the masses into conversion. What are they going to do next, start up the inquisition?

Ever heard the saying "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar."

Telling everyone they are going to die is not going to gain you any favor...

 

I never meat to say that The bible is fact to everyone..I know it not..but I was posting from a christian standpoint and Christians do usually take the bible as fact..

Sera, I have to say, I agree with what you said about Christians and the preachig of hellfire..I posted in they "christians are hypocrites" thread the same thing basically. But I dont think that this thread was started to cause fear to unbelievers...It was just expressing a view about something that could chage lives for a lot of people.

A lot of people are right when they say some christians need to practise tolerance for other beliefs but I also think its a two way street.

 

Well it's not fact whether you believe it or not, as a fact can be proven whereas things based solely on faith cannot be, regardless of your belief in them... Don't mean to be rude or anything...

 

I don't. I was adding my thoughts to your statement about not trusting the government.

 

The 'end of the world' will occur because of neo-cons, not 'God'. Focus on the real world and vote Kerry next Tuesday if you want to continue living much longer.

 

Ever since Christ made his ascension to the heavens people have been looking for signs that he will return. Remeber the year 2000? yea...

 

Ah, phew....I was hoping I never gave that impression! :H

 

the concept of an end of the world is bizarre to me, it will not end, and even we, the humans, will not completely disappear. Some will go on. Kerry answers to the same bosses as Bush. It has not mattered which party wins for 80 years.

 

my grandfather has this huge mole one his face. Its like split in half and has a couple long black hairs growing out of it. Now if you seen it you would swear its the mark of the beast. And my grandmother says the devil put it there....

 

The most interesting aspect is the fact that, before 9/11, the majority of people would not accept the idea of an implant chip. After the attack, it is now being accepted as a means of security. It has been stated several times that because of this horrible incident, that the chip is now met with a well response.

Many people think it's a wonderful idea... we have onstar on cars incase of an emergency, computer chip implants that can save a persons life, find a missing/kidnapped child, and the convinence of the RFID chip for stocking purposes. These current advances in technology are a great idea. However, the intended use of them is not. GPS - Global positioning system... Big Brother really will be watching. Onstar can unlock your car doors now, but what will you do when they purposely lock them? What will you do when your every move is being tracked on a computer by the implant chip in your arm?

 

Hehe that's when you go crazy and start setting off EMP devices...