Marjorie Taylor Greene & Cohorts

No, but I'm sure you've read several of these books and can reach your own conclusion.

btw A lot of the these books were banned years ago long before the GOP went nuts.

To Kill a Mockingbird (It reflects poorly on the white race)
Of Mice and Men: (John Steinbeck is a racist POS)
The Catcher in the Rye (A depressed teenager, drinking, smoking, sex, prostitution, homosexuality)
The Grapes of Wrath - Migrant farmworkers
The Call of the Wild (The book was burned by the Nazis back in 33' so why not the GOP in 22')
The Color Purple (I'm sure you remember the lesbian relationship in the novel or while watching the movie)
Lord of the Flies (means “Beelzebub” who is the devil in the form of a fly)
Thirteen Reasons Why (A teenage girl commits suicide and gives 13 reasons why)
The Giver (Sexuality, suicide)
The Hate U Give (The book was inspired by the Black Lives Matter movement)
...etc.....

 

I’m trying to figure out what is the issue with Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings series. Why are those on the list?

 

Come on, people. Use your common sense! Your gut should warn you when outlandish claims are just propaganda (or jokes). Just give it a little thought before buying into stuff. Don't be a victim of scams.

 

So says the guy that supports Trump...

 

Only fascist conservatives want to ban thought / works of art. Where's the joke in all this ? There is none. This is an attempt to control peoples thought processes in order to hide the transgressions of various human / movements as observed by artists.

 

Maybe its one of those Christian things because each series of books involves magic and the dark arts

 

And so does the Satanic bible…..
I’m just saying.

 

To ban Grapes of Wrath is a travesty. First , Steinbeck is a great writer. Second , Grapes is a fictionalized, but elementary work of the truth of how many, many workers have always been treated , particularly those in the "lower " classes that do the tedious work of picking / planting / harvesting most of our vegetable, fruit , row crops, etc. The kind of people that are at the mercy of those who need them to do the hard work----the kind of people that are usually desperate to make what money they can to feed their families ---those that travel from harvest to harvest while living in tents or their cars. They can pick watermelons in Texas, move to California to pick cantaloupes , and on to Washington to pick apples. Maybe stops in other areas to pick different products. These people are the easiest to take advantage of--the easiest to fire if they get out of line, the easiest to have the goons set upon them for asking for a fair shake. Grapes is a good example of the attitudes of certain types of people who will take advantage of employees by cheating , lying and violence.

This has been true in labor--employer relations all through the attempts at unionizing throughout American history.(Not to mention the black folks that worked for free for a few hundred years.) Much of it is still true in many ways. Right to work laws, firing because of attempts at unionizing at various businesses to address worker concerns. I've seen it and lived among those families fleeing the dust bowl tragedy. I went to school with their children in the 40s and how they had to live, sometimes in their junky, overloaded , rusted out vehicles without decent places to live and no places to shower. I've seen the modern equivalent --though not as dangerous as it was to the aforementioned farm workers. Before I learned the trade that I spent 45--50 years in, I worked at an auto plant. The line was constantly sped up breaking a labor- management contract, work was always attempted to be added to my job-( not only me) to effect the trimming of the labor force. They'd pile as much work on you as you would accept. I fought back in ways that I won't mention, but if there had not been a union, I wouldn't have lasted a week there!

It's an everlasting " job" to fight for rights in the workplace and I suppose it will always be thus.

To sum up: Grapes of Wrath is obviously personal to me relative to the fascist , republican banning of history and art that may shed some light on their own actions and intentions toward those other than their imagined ,elitist selves.

The republican party is now and for the foreseeable future--the COMPLETE TRUMP PARTY. These are the people that want to ban books, want to ban unions, want to cheat in all ways possible to remove --the credo--by the people and for the people-- by rigging elections. They have no shame. They have no scruples. They have become totally immoral. LISTEN UP: DO NOT LET THESE LYING COWARDLY SCUMBAGS GET BY WITH THIS!!! Smarten the fuck up!

 

So what us the outlandish claim? That these people are seriously

for Nashville Catholics, it was the risk of conjuring evil spirits, Gotta watch out for those!
Harry Potter banned: Nashville Catholic school bans "Harry Potter" book series, citing risk of "conjuring evil spirits" - CBS News “The curses and spells used in the books are actual curses and spells". In Alamagordo, New Mexico, in 2001a group banned Lord of the Rings because they thought it was satanic and promoting witchcraft. That despite the fact Tolkien was a devout Catholicand hung out with C.S Lewis. What century is this again?

 

Stupidity abides.

 

Hey, if the shoe fits, wear it. If Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are demonic, Retrumplicans are demons if I ever saw any. The greatest thing Biden did for the country was to delay the fascist takeover by deranged unprincipled Retrumplicans who will proceed to see to it that there's never a free election in this country again.

Well, since you've been hanging around, I guess that's not true.

Since you seem to be an expert in the area of propaganda, you should know, which is why we don't take you seriously.

 

Only fringe groups want to ban stuff and try to control people's thoughts. They always have their "reasons" but they don't stand up to the test of freedom. You can tell when people are being hypocritical when they say let's ban this thing but we can't let other people ban some other thing. It's not a conservative/liberal divide at all, in fact both categories are supporters of freedoms. But groups based on other criteria made up of members from either conservative or liberal stance on either social or economic issues or both can take an anti-freedom stance about something for tertiary reasons.

If you trust Wikipedia, "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

You're not going to find much of that in the US. Everything is everywhere, of course, but strong regimentation of society and the economy is not an "American" trait. Ultranationalism can be observed but possessing that trait and not the rest does not fit the definition of fascism.

And while you're right that fascists would ban stuff as part of their regimentation (especially anything that might threaten their reign of power), the majority of people in the US would stand against it, and it wouldn't fly.

 

So... Basically, Trump's GOP.

 

Au contraire. I think the signs of incipient fascism are all around us, to a degree I never thought I's see in this country. Just yesterday, the Republican National Committee, not generally thought of as some fringe group, expelled two members of its party on the Senate committee investigating the Jan. 6th coup attempt, and offered as a reason that they were“persecuting "ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.” Anybody who could make that statement with a straight face, after having watched the mob beating Capitol police, breaking windows, invading congressional offices and calling for the lynching of teh Vice President is beyond the pale, and to have this coming from the national committee of one of the major parties is alarming. Fascism is admittedly a loaded term much abused by folks on all sides of the political spectrum, but is still meaningful if used correctly to designate movements that closely resemble those of Hitler and Mussolini. Your wikepida definition is reasonably accurate as far as it goes, but is incomplete.It would be difficult to deny that Trump's supporters are far right, and that the Republican Party has moved farther in that direction to join them. It's authoritarian in attempting to overturn the results of a lawful election by hook, crook, or mob violence, and when that didn't work, to organize efforts at the state level to suppress the vote and give state and local officials the authority to overturn results they don't like. You've conceded the ultranationalism. But fascism is more complex than that, and wikipedia has left out some key elements (1) nativism rooted in an exclusionary view of nationhood and fear that the majority is being "replaced" (think tiki torch marchers ahouting "Jews will not re[ace us" at Charlottesville; (2) personalism, expressed in the Führerprinzip, or "follow the leader (as in the Republican party not even adopting a policy platform since following Trump is its platform; ; (3) use of paramilitary units to attack or intimidate the opposition (as in the January 6 attack and so many local attacks by anti-maskers & anti-vaxers on school boards, municipal governments, the capitol and governor of Michigan, etc;. (4) attacks on the news media ( Trump "enemies of the people"; etc) Americans tend to shrug such things off in the belief "it can't happen here" because it never has before. But his kind of political behavior is something we've never had before. An armed, organized minority can and has taken over countries before, and it remains to be seen whether or not the Americans would put up much of a fight or will remember their civics lessons, if they ever had any. .Recent events don't inspire confidence in that regard.

 

And now it's been further authenticated that trump tried to have voting machines confiscated for what one can only think that that was for truly nefarious purposes. You know--like the rigged elections in countries like Russia, China, Central America and where you can and mostly likely be killed , incarcerated or "disappeared. " Trump has ushered in the Twilight Zone for American democracy, and unfortunately his most devoted cult members are voting republican legislators.

To add: Republicans are not thought of as a fringe group , as Trudgin said. At least not in the past. But now--it's becoming clear that perhaps they are.

 

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I suppose you are correct, but they will be thought of as such if they don't smarten the fuck up.

 

Have faith, man... They won't.