Marijuana Dangerous? YES!!!

What if everytime the pink elephants flew through my living room I was given another tab of LSD? Or what if I grew 27 foot marijuana plants in my yard? Wait a minute... This isn't fantasy land.. it's reality.

 

everytime someone thinks of going to war we should kill them, and kill everyone who has the notion of war, so then humans will evolve into a race which doesnt war. or something.

 

If theres a million idiots saying war is inevitable then it will be

 

Killing those that dont like our way of peace is...Guess what...WAR....


Oh and my example of relativity works with everything else too...Drugs...Driving...Skydiving...It dont matter...Fuck relativity...It doesnt matter when ur dying...

 

omg get it? relativity, matter? you tricky boy

 

Oh and war will ALWAYS exist...Sit down and chat? War happens when sitting down and chatting fails...Which im sorry to say, it does...All the time...On every level. Kids fight on the playground, grownups argue and divorce, politicians get greedy, talks fail and someone fires the first shot....It'll never end as long as it is possible for two humans to be DIFFERENT.......I'm all for world peace...But it's not gonna happen with "talks"

 

LMAO. You just don't get it. Smoking weed is dangerous in comparison to WHAT. What is the reference point? What is the GROUND? If you're going to prove your points use logic, not 'FUCK RELATIONS, WHO CARES WHAT THIS IS IN RELATION TO THAT CAUSE I DON'T NEED TO FORMULATE ANY SORT OF LOGICAL ARGUMENT TO PROVE MY POINTS!'

"We as smokers need to be intelligent." Right.

 

everything is dangerous compared to nothing.. dangerous is an opinion, and an opinon has to have a basis. U need something to compare weed to say its dangerous

 

it really pisses me off when smokers tell me how dangerous weed is and how it shouldnt be legal.. if u feel that it is so dangerous it kills then dont do it, if u dont want it legal dont do it either

 

Ur blind...The fact IS it doesnt have to be dangerous in relation to ANYTHING...It causes people to do some fucked up things sometimes. I know what ur saying..."In relation to such and such, it's really not that bad" Great! But the REALITY is, from a medical point of view, this shit slows u down...No matter how much a person is gonna try and say "Nah...I can function PERFECTLY as if nothin's wrong with me..." REALLY? So ur eyes are naturally slanted like my fellow asian brothers, and u really speak with a slower drawl??? U really do things like misplace the lighter u used 30 seconds ago? Geez that's sad...Pot slows reaction...And in "relation" to beer or brain injury??? No...Not as bad...I GET IT!!!! But the honest medical fact is that it is a mind/motor skill alterant!!! Thats it!!!

U want facts? I got'em..U want logic? I got that too...And saying marijuana ISNT dangerous at all to people's lives because it is relatively not as dangerous as this or that....Doesnt sound all that logical to me...And i pray to god that it doesnt sound logical to you...


Also I have to comment that it's interesting...The politics of potsmoking these days...It's VERY politically INCORRECT from a potsmokers point of view to attach any danger/bad result to smoking herb...It looks like a defense mechanism against the hardcore prohibitionists fightin to keep it illegal...And that sucks...Imagine being a staunch supporter of anti-pot laws and hearing a bunch of "potheads" telling u that it isnt harmful at all...They're just gonna laugh in ur face....Lets tell them the truth and show them we can be responsible smokers...It can kill if u drive under the influence. It can kill when ur operating heavy machinery. It can fuck up ur airway...But we as smokers are open to that risk and we AGREE that there should be rules...We AGREE kids shouldnt smoke it and we AGREE u shouldnt drive on it...

 

Okay...Here's an example...Lets replace weed with say...Guns...In the hands of responsible people, is it dangerous? YES!!! IT STILL IS!!! In the hands of irresponsible people??? YES!!! THAT TOO!!! Now...Do u have to COMPARE it with something else to know it's dangerous? Do u have to say "well...compared to running with scissors...." NO!!! So how do we DECREASE the danger??? RESPECT. Respect it's power, respect its rules, respect it's DANGER...No need for any kinda comparison...Which was the point i've been trying to make here...Relativity doesnt come into play here!!! If u dont respect what ur dealin with, it's gonna end up biting u in the ass...Maybe it wont be deadly, maybe it will...But nevertheless, it demands our RESPECT...Not our ability to compare it to something else. Anyone that says otherwise is just makin' an excuse.

 

the intelligent person would know that you cant get statistics concerning how many fatalities are caused by stonedness. that capability is only becoming possible recently and into the future.

i think youll find, deadhead, that the person here who is saying it is bad is in fact doing just that - not driving while stoned. have you missed the whole thread? or is your head dead?

you want relativity? if you want to claim that relativity means anything in logic then you would have to somehow prove that drivers who are stonedd drive better and have equal or less accidents than drivers who are sober, in relation to the number of people all up who drive stoned or sober. ie,. in order to use locig to prove that cannabis is not worse than being sober, youwould have to try and say that there are no more accidents per person driving sober than there are per person driving stoned.

we have established that you cant do this. so you cant argue either way with 'relativity' here.

the relativity point is sobriety.

Its one thing to say the risk is small, its another to say that cannabis doesnt impair you at all.

 

Right on, my Australian brother!

 

When did I say marijuana isn't dangerous at all to everybody's life? What you're failing to take into account is that riding in a car is dangerous, walking across the street is dangerous, roofing a house in dangerous, EVERYTHING YOU DO HAS A RISK INVOLVED. Posting on this forum poses the risk of being ridiculed by others. Is that dangerous to me? No, to others, yes, it is. So smoking blunts isn't dangerous to me. IN RELATION to life in general, smoking pot isn't all too dangerous for MOST PEOPLE.

I laugh in everybody's face who can't support their arguments with substance; pothead, conservative, tripper, ultra-liberal, I don't care.

"It can" is a phrase you live by eh? Smoking weed can heal your mind, smoking weed can turn a frown upside down, smoking weed can burn holes in your shirt, smoking weed can affect your memory negatively, smoking weed can slow some people down, and smoking weed can lead to you having fun, so let's all admit that weed CAN do a lot of things.

 

OMFG you're making comparisons!

 

What's funny is your first focus was on the people you've seen DIE from their stupidity, not their marijuana use. What a good way to support your argument, the right has been doing it for years, why don't we all hop on that bandwagon?

 

Like i keep having to say...I KNOW OTHER THINGS ARE DANGEROUS TOO...That's not the point here...I KNOW POT CAN BE GOOD TOO...Thats not the point either...Substance???? People DYING is substance enough for me...Isnt that ENOUGH for you to say "hey...he's right...We should take care while we're on it"...Comparison? Well I was giving another example using his logic...Which was flawed.

So once again...my point is...RESPECT THE POWER OF WEED!!!! Respect it's danger, respect it's benefits. It is what it is...No more, no less. And what it is, is a mind-altering drug. Not talkin bout driving. Not talkin bout roofing. Not talking bout ridicule...THATS MY POINT...How hard is that to understand?

 

Let's take a look at some of the things you say in the original post:

"Lots of people see things like driving under the influence as no big deal...It IS a big deal...It's fun, yes, and many times nothing happens. Actually I'd say 90% of the time, nothing happens. But come on people (the irresponsible ones) do u REALLY think that this cant have any bad consequenses?"

Dude after smoking blunt after blunt of nuggets constantly, I mean wake up with blunts rolled and start smoking right away until the nightcap blunt, weed doesn't affect me like it does you. I can hop in a car and drive fine. I know people who get so stupid though when they smoke pot that they definitely should not even brush their teeth they get so high. So what I'm saying here is, the issue is more people than weed. We don't need to respect the weed, cause the weed don't respect us. We need to know our limits and make solid decisions.

"What other bad shit can happen? Lets see...Ur throat can start to feel like u got orally raped by a huge cacti...Ur lungs start to turn shitty from all the tar...(NO, bongs dont "fix" that problem...Ur still putting a shitload of tar in ur lungs...) Bad shit CAN and DOES happen..."

In the grand scheme of 'bad shit,' cottonmouth isn't too big of a deal.

"Sometimes I find myself wishing that I personally never smoked this stuff...Of course, like most of us I turn around and say "oh what the hell...It's just weed"....But I think that's a dangerous thought process...We should stop thinkin about it as "Just Weed" and start taking a little bit more responsibilty for it..."

Man, to me, it is just weed... I've smoked so much of the shit it's not a big deal any more. That's not to say that 16 year old kids who smoke bowls every now and then and drive their mother's cars should shrug shit off like that. Once again, the weed isn't the problem, people are. When I was younger and first started smoking pot, I didn't do anything that involved any sort of physical risk because I got fucking blasted. Now, times have changed.

"Its a drug...A dangerous one if we dont take care...So, I say we all admit to ourselves that we're taking a big risk...We all smoke...Its fun! It's relaxing after a hard day's work...Lets just keep it real...This shit can fuck with u..."

Danger, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Big risk? Not for me. For you to be smoking and get so blasted you can't figure out how to save a dying patient, now that's a BIG risk...

Not everybody who smokes pot is taking a big risk, that is the point. That is where the relativity comes in, BIG in comparison to what.. something can only be big if something else is minor or small.


Minor or major risk, as long as fat rich white conservatives decide what you can put into your body, it's not going to be legal.

 

"Dude after smoking blunt after blunt of nuggets constantly, I mean wake up with blunts rolled and start smoking right away until the nightcap blunt, weed doesn't affect me like it does you. I can hop in a car and drive fine. I know people who get so stupid though when they smoke pot that they definitely should not even brush their teeth they get so high. So what I'm saying here is, the issue is more people than weed. We don't need to respect the weed, cause the weed don't respect us. We need to know our limits and make solid decisions."

yeh but how did you know you could drive fine until you took the risk in the first place?

you only know you can handle something after youve made the risk

anyway this thread is pointless, neither sides seem to be listening to eachother and responding well

 

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT, ill settle this. Im right. elts move on to better things ok?