LSD; let me get to know you. Survey.

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by spexxx, Mar 1, 2010.

  1. phoenixsun

    phoenixsun Member

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    * What does LSD stand for? lysergic acid diethylamide
    * What type of drug is LSD considered? hallucinogenic/entheogenic
    By researchers? halliucinogenic/entheogenic
    By your family? evil, scary, satanic
    By your friends? beautiful, wonderful, respected, entheogen, hallucinogen
    By you? entheogenic, shamanic, clear mirror of inner space, saved me from myself
    * What's the difference between acid and LSD? there is no difference
    * How do you believe LSD effects the mind? it affects seratonin levels/receptors and through that perception of all senses
    * What is an ego 'to you'? the definition my mind has for my 'self'
    * What were the initial research intentions with LSD once curious psychological effects were discovered? Name as many as you can. treatment of schizophrenia, depression, bipolar, various other mental disorders

    If you have done the drug, here are more questions you can answer:

    * How often do you take LSD? this year it's been once a week, but i get to a stage where i have a break for a few months (the longest break i've had of taking it since my first trip would have been 9 months)
    * What is a bad trip exactly in your opinion? a trip you choose to take no learning from
    * What element of the bad trip makes the experience perceived as negative? getting stuck in egoic nonsense - 'poor me' syndrome, expecting everyone else to be your saviour, allowing yourself to forget your own divinity
    * What exactly do you think happens, in regards to a bad trip, if it does? the lsd is showing you parts of yourself that perhaps do not serve you, yet the ego is too strongly attached to these parts to let go, and inner conflict happens as a result
    * If experienced, What significance does the "ego-loss" experience hold to you in your life? it increases my sense of connection with other people, as well as will all other things and this sense of connection feeds into my every day life and gives me an understanding of compassion that i had otherwise never experienced
    * Do you trip alone? occasionally
    Would you? i would again, yes
    Have you? yes
    Who do you trip with? my best friends most of the time
    * What do you consider an ideal setting to trip? outdoors.. in the bush
    * Do you use trip sitters? no
    * Have you had a bad trip? not bad so much as seriously confronting
    If so, what was it like? i regressed into a very childlike state where i expected others to fix everything for me and look after me... i forgot my sovreignty and the fact that i am responsible for myself and that no one else can fix my feelings for me
    What went wrong? i had in hindsight, taken way more than i was ready for (9 drops at once)
    * Define reality. that's entirely subjective IMO
     
  2. spexxx

    spexxx Member

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    ^ Nice man I appreciate the honesty imbued in that post, I enjoyed the read and love your interpretation of bad trips, actually helped me see them a bit more clearly myself.

    "What is a bad trip exactly in your opinion? a trip you choose to take no learning from"

    Very well said.
     
  3. thedope

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    Oh yeah, I remember now, reality:
    Non local, nor remote.
    An inviolate constant.
    What is not real does not exist.
     
  4. spexxx

    spexxx Member

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    Oh yeah, and now I remember. I never really get what you mean when you say that, so here it is -

    In the sense of the classical definition of exist, "to stand out", how is that in relation to wholeness you describe? If all forms a whole, how can any one "thing" (object in space or otherwise) stand "out", if it's not really separate from that which it makes up to begin with? By this it seems nothing actually exists independently of itself, or really exists at all.

    What constitutes something as real? Everything is real as far my understanding goes. It doesn't matter if it can be sensed or not, the value of the certain things may differ based upon individual, as in, what is real is different for different individuals. Something can be really true in your experience, and not mine. Is it real?

    You can say tree's are real because you can see and touch them, watch it be, progress. What about love, as in things that aren't concrete and yet still considered real? Which brings me to, if it can be concrete, and still be real, or not concrete, and still be real, then what constitutes real? If one person can say one thing is real and believe it, and another finds this to be false, is it real?

    We can say a flower is real. But is the name of the flower real? Are our words real? We made them, nature didn't. So in terms of what is natural and unnatural, man made and not man made. In terms of what we create and establish amongst ourselves and then agree to be real?

    As for reality, you say the things that it is not- Local, remote. So you're saying it's not here and not out there? Not in my mind and not in the moment? An inviolate constant, as in nothing we can establish any consistency in as far as description goes, or what?
     
  5. thedope

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    All that stands out, is focused intent. Intent is everywhere,(non local), nor is any intent absent from you, (nor remote).

    Everything less than absolute constitutes abstraction.

    And there exists nothing that is not real, meaning there is no antithesis to reality, no anti reality.

    Reality and love are synonymous terms, both being without condition. Everything else is respiration.
    It can be concrete and be real , and not concrete and be real, because it is cement.
    focuse
    An inviolate constant in that what is not real does not exist. Real does not become unreal.
     
  6. spexxx

    spexxx Member

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    Alright thanks, that really did explain quite a bit. But, a few things I added, so then as far as existence goes, is it fair to conclude nothing exists independently of itself then, or even at all, in 'absolute terms'?

    And what do you say about this, because I always wondered, we make our words, agree upon them for use amongst ourselves, apply them to things we experience, and yet we have no way of validating anothers experience, but by there words, even though the words can not be experience, only verbal representation of something. We discuss and recognize things created in the plane of space with words, but words were created by something within the plane of space. How then can they capture something 'one tier up' with any real conviction? How can we define the nature of things, if we what we are using to define it with, isn't from the nature which created things?

    Nature brought about humans, and then humans brought about the words in which basically poorly depict nature on any real scale.
     
  7. thedope

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    This is not a functioning linguistic integer. You do not exist independent of you.
    That does not mean that your existence depends on you, only your creations depend on you.

    The I am I call myself, is the same I am you call yourself. The embodied experiences we generate are common. There is nothing uncommon to man. This is the reason we can communicate with symbols at all. The reason we get the impression that we can never really understand each other is because we thought we learned how to lie. All we really do is confuse meanings. We put words of unlike function together which creates a hybrid of meaning that is mule like, sterile and stubborn. For instance, righteous indignation. There is no indignity in righteousness and righteousness cannot be had unless we share it with our brother.
     
  8. spexxx

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    I meant to say, basically for example, thedope can not be without the computer. The computer can not be without electricity. So on so forth and everything in between, whatever that is called. In terms of how I was applying it to existence, so really, no one thing exists independently, it all comes together to form what you consider this whole, an interlocking ever changing web of things which when together is formed? And in this case, so what exists, if not a thing can stand out and be by itself? Just the whole?

    Makes sense, thank you
     
  9. phoenixsun

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    glad i could offer some perspective :)
     
  10. peace music life

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    1. D-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide-25.

    2. A psychedelic drug.

    3. Absolutely nothing. Acid is just a slang term.

    4. In the most positive ways possible. To be able to see life within all points of views. To be able to see within reality and beyond.

    5. The outlook on reality and within one's self.

    6. Cluster headaches, schizophrenia, insanity, anxiety, depression, alcoholism, etc.

    7. I take LSD about once every two weeks or more.

    8. A bad trip, in my opinion, is an experience caused by a disturbance from outside reality that the mind is affected in a negative aspect when in under the influence of a psychedelic drug or other mind altering substance. Pain, disturbance, fright, sadness, fear, etc., can cause or lead to a so called ''bad trip.''

    9. As I said in the previous answer: ''Pain, disturbance, fright, sadness, fear, etc.''

    10. To feel or think as if you are dying, pain ''hallucinations'', freaking out, feeling scared, and so on.

    11. Not experienced with bad trips.

    12. I don't trip with people. I find it a lot more spiritual to take it alone and enjoy your experiences by yourself.

    13. An environment that is familiar, comfortable, peaceful, and has enough room to walk around and explore in.

    14. Not at all. I consider trip sitters as a buzz kill.

    15. Never had a bad trip, but I have gotten pretty scared on LSD by unsuspected people trying to scare me on purpose.

    16. Reality is an illusion. Reality is only what we see within eyesight and within our daily lives. The use of psychoactive compounds, such as LSD, psilocybin, DMT, MDMA, and so on, can help us see and understand what is outside of reality and beyond. The universe is full of magical and wonderful things, but what's outside the universe? Is there another universe beyond this one? Try solving that riddle.
     
  11. GTT

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    Haven't done LSD. Have done shrooms.

    * What does LSD stand for?
    Lysergic acid diethylamide. Number 25 is the good one, apparently. :)

    * What type of drug is LSD considered? By researchers? By your family? By your friends? By you?
    Psychedelic / depends on the resercher / a terribly dangerous thing / see previous / something fascinating.

    * What's the difference between acid and LSD?
    Acid is slang for LSD.

    * How do you believe LSD effects the mind?
    It alters your perception.

    * What is an ego 'to you'?
    The sum of my experiences taken with the way my mind processed them.

    * What were the initial research intentions with LSD once curious psychological effects were discovered? Name as many as you can.
    Wow, many... sorry can't be bothered.

    If you haven't done the drug.

    * Why haven't you?
    Not available, sadly.

    * Define reality.
    Reality is that which we percieve. That in turn is entirely subjective. For instance. I may choose to delimit a certain object in such a way that it can be described as a table. I may also chose certain other properties such as "flat" and "made of wood". However, in categorizing objects in this way, I also lose a great deal of information. Instead of percieving the world, I only percieve the categories of objects that my mind creates. People may be categorized such as "good", "friendly", "reliable", etc. These subjective meanings which we ascribe to objects are what we percieve. The world as it is cannot be percieved since it is always filtered through the mind.
     
  12. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Another fuckin survey????

    You know spexxx, why don't you just take some LSD yourself and answer a lot of these questions first hand?
    And what the fuck is with this "testing" peoples knowledge about the history and research of LSD?
    If you don't know then pick up a fucking book and educate yourself.
    Better yet, the 2010 cencus is being taken. If you like surveys and questions so much go get a job working for the cencus takers.
     
  13. neversaynever

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    * No idea
    * Dangerous drug that fucks your life up
    * its the same shit
    * well it can open up new perspectives
    * dont even know what ego means
    * noo idea

    If you have done the drug, here are more questions you can answer:

    * Everyweek for the pased 5 weeks, having a long break
    * Anxiety,Fear
    * When you think everyone is against you
    * Fear starts to build up and so does anxiety, and i think everyone is against me when really they are not
    * ???
    * Yes i have tripped alone, had a lot of fun but i would prefer to do it in groups... although in groups sometimes someone doesnt want to do somthing that you want to do
    * Nature, sunny, alot of food, water and music and close friends :)
    * no, if i do it in groups we look out for eachother and i trust my self enough to go on a solo trip
    * I haven't really had a BAD trip just a moment of "Fuck wtf am i doing"
    * Real life lol
     
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