LSD, any suggestions for a new comer?

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"LSD, the synthetic drug that opened the minds of millions during the 60s and 70s ...while not addictive is a very powerful psychedelic drug with numerous physical and psychological effects. It's not for the faint of heart nor anyone with depression or other mental disorder.

Another warning - LSD is NOT a party drug! Although many younger, less experienced people will take it at a club, concert or party, they eventually learn it's way too strong a mind fuck to experience in an unfamiliar or crowded setting. In addition its effects last at least 10-12 hours during which time you will not be "yourself." For more info about LSD check out erowid.org, an excellent resource on mind altering drugs."




"...Can you hear me Major Tom...? -David Bowie

 

I party on LSD all the time. "more experienced users later find that it's way too much a mindfuck to experience at concerts" Yea okay, way to generalize the most subjective drug there is. It's all about the person and the dose. Most really experienced trippers can trip in any set/setting.

 

That's a quote from LSD In the Netherlands
Topic: The Dutch

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The other part was from experience. Yeah if you do it a lot. But you build up a tolerance. It just shows how far out of your mind you still really are even when you think you're down. When you really quit--It takes years dude. You get flashbacks forever. I'm not talkin to the hardy's. I'm talkin to the kid in the burbs that is thinkin' this is tame stuff & his friends are telling him --"You Can DO IT!!!" A party could be a very bum trip. Yes it depends on dosage & quality. You can trip somebody out of their mind if you overdose them on Acid. I'm sayin too that street drugs--who knows what the hell they even are. There's no label on them. With weed at least you can tell if it's oregano or rope, but you won't know if it's really primo until you smoke it. There's also articles in there about them adulterating the amsterdamn coffeehouse hash. Cops didn't even know what they busted those guys for was not coke--it was sheetrock. Who knows how many times the actual was cut with strichnine or speed or comet cleanser with a cap, a tab could be cold medecine & a blotter could have salmonella on it. I remember some guy coming through my college that sold everybody what he claimed to be pure THC. Turned out to be horse tranquilizers. Everybody went to see this trippy movie & slept through the whole film, while this guy split outta town with all their money. He could have been a hilljack psycho & just as easily poisoned everybody. You have to qualify it.

It's not all good.

 

While I agree that you actually just don't know for sure what you are getting when you buy street drugs, there's a very high chance that if you eat paper and trip it's acid. In today's world of rchems there is the small chance that you could get 5meoamt on paper, but unlikely. Blotter is not usually adultered.. sure it's not pure, but adulterants are more normally used in press pills, bricks of cocaine, etc. And if the LSD was actually adultered.... it wouldn't be with strychnine.

It is definately true however that LSD is just not right for some people.

Sorry I didn't see the addition of the mediums to each of your adulterants- I've never heard of anybody putting salvia's active chemical on paper. I know it's active in the 500 microgram range when smoked, anybody got oral dosages? 500 is a high dosage for quarter inch blotters though.... I don't really see anything besides liquid and blotter in abundance, although a few months ago a friend has microdots.

 

Yeah, gone are the daze of pure orange sunshine, pink owsley & purple haze, but I know there was window pane, blotter & microdot & they had something called stp which I am not familiar with. I guess with caps & pills went the adulterant fillers. Why they'd choose strichnine which is some sort of rat poison is beyond anyone's guess, but I guess certain posions are tolerated in small doses & it stretched the stuff. :&



Anything is possible...

 

STP is an acronym supposedly for something like Serenity, Tranquility, and Peace. It's chemical name is DOM, and it's a psychedelic tryptamine. It's very long lasting and it is active in doses of less than 5 mg's. You can find out more at www.erowid.org.

I don't think there has ever been a sample of LSD tested that tested positive for strychnine. I may be wrong however, so if you find some information please post it on this forum.

 

Maybe it was just a rumor that steered people away from the bad chemics. People said it made their body's twitch & coming down worse when they were crashing. Some was laced. You couldn't sleep it off. I suppose you could stick anything in a capsule, even an astronaut. Nowadays they probably have no reason to cut it & so it's liquid I guess. I mean how many drops are in a gallon of water?

That was cool. I've seen that site before, the account about burning man. Have never known what that was.



Infared photo of Orion Galaxy - Look at the Gamma rays - Man that's Burnin!

 

No, it wasn't a bad rumor, it's a powerful drug active in very low doses. It is true that 5000 (i think that was the number) free doses of STP were given out at a festival in San Fran in the late 60s, maybe early 70s, but the doses were like 3 or 5 times the dose recommended by Shulgin, so people tripped for days. I'm sure you can find a more accurate re-telling on erowid. ;-)

 

So, what made some of those names almost brandish in character, such as orange sunshine, purple haze, or pink owsley? I only know Owsley was a guy who has something to do with inventing or testing & Purple Haze is a Hendrix Song. Was there actually a difference in their effects, characteristics, or quality? Was it their origin or composition-- was there a molecular structural difference or was that just hype?

 

What made some of those names almost brandish in character is the same way drugs get brand names today. Those particular brand names all originated from Owsley, the Grateful Dead's soundman. He was pretty much the first large scale underground LSD chemist. His Orange Sunshine is probably the most popular named LSD of all time. The other brand names were just other batches. I can't remember exact dosages but I think Purple Haze was 270 micrograms a dose... I forget. You can read all about Owsley and his acid on the net, and find out all the details.

 

Checking the formula

 

It's more fun over here talking @Lysergichology than arguing with those two high on Vague Interpretations. I'm not splitting hairs with the Holy Mystery, Batman Duo. What's mysterious to me is that they are so clueless about what they are talking about. I have a set of postings on the subject Globilization. I think I made a valid point.

Check out this Galaxy. It looks like the nerves of the Cerebral Cortex of the Human Brain



"God is a Spirit & they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit & Truth"..."God is Love"

 

Agreed, dramamine isn't always completely effective. Someone I know took some dramamine right before ingesting 20 grams of some kind of dried cactus and still managed to purge.

 

Heh. Around 70 or 71 I used to deal Sunshine. Ate a lot of it too. As well as windowpane; a good friend and I met when a third party introduced us as being heads, and we traded acid; he had the windowpane. White Lightning was around in 69, some purple double-domes, and for my 16th b'day a friend on the west coast sent me a little blue pentagon-shaped hit that was smooth and fairly strong.

I bought my Sunshine in New Orleans from a group of folks who used acid as a Buddhist-type sacrament and they had what they called Holy Acid which I tasted a couple times. I seem to remember it was a little pink tab. Probably a special batch from The Brotherhood of Eternal Love; I think these folks were an offshoot. I had two tabs one night at Bu-Ki Maitreya's house (that was what he was called) (fantastic set and setting)and got to the white light. No vision, no sound, just a place of perfect peace and contentment. That night I unofficially joined the Organization of Interplanetary Adepts.

They wouldn't sell any of the Holy Acid, just give it to you if you were there. What a fine group of folks they were. Proseletyzers, too. That's another story, though, about the under-aged minx who stoned me and seduced me.

Oh, and the strychnine myth is just that. At least, neither I nor anyone else I knew back then ever had any acid with strychnine.

 

Thanks
for posting here.
That little blue pentagon-shaped hit that
was smooth & fairly strong couldn't have
been a little like a batch of mescaline or psylocybin
we once happened on, but never again, could it? I
thought that was superior to all the acid
we were were used to. Sometimes, the
names sounded funny, like STP.
But I did my share
of them.​

RE: Strychnine: We can bury that. I hereby bury it, no really-- because people I know still cultivate that strychnine rumor continually, or that speed was added & I sort of took it as, OK...what will that do? BBBBBZZZZZZ...I could name names but no point. True--Much of it was not a smooth ride like the pentagon blue you talked about, and yes, it came in a cap which was easy to cut. Like Cesar says they've never found any in samples tested, so I believe it now. But they may have cut it with speed.​

I Hereby Bury the Strychnine Myth

We would just go on referrals. If somebody bought off of a batch that was good, and we were right in the right frame of mind for tripping, then we'd buy. Sometimes we had no money but a buddy would because he didn't want to trip alone, or maybe 6 or 8 of us would & go to a concert. Yes, in that respect, yes. But we were very respectful of the pharmaceutical & psychological potential of this drug for being able to completely ruin our minds if we let it or if it was bad, or if we didn't respect the fact at least that it was powerful & that we were vulnerable since we were not completely in the sense of being in this world, able to cope with our right minds, both feet in it.

I was just trying to instill some respect in the party-animal breed, cause you know they are going to be scared shitless at least some of the time. They need to know it's not a toy. I mean, sometimes it was a party, then sometimes it was cathartic; you could go through the whole gamut of your thoughts & emotions which is why for one thing I didn't want to do it all the time. It was downright exhausting!​

Well, like I said, lysergic is sort of like white mans' peyote, right, that Leary & those guys brought to us. To us guys it was an experience with God; something the Indians also say, that Peyote was that to them. I know some people think that's blasphemous, but if they tripped they would change their tune. There is a real world apart from this one. Many of them. My best buddy & I even though we got to believing right afterwards & rejected everything (even coffee!) We now look back on it very positively that it was part of our path & that it made us aware that there was a Spiritual world right here & that we somehow clicked in something much bigger than what we could even understand. It helped us.

Paranoia: That's also probably a lot of the remaining lysergic that's still up there. Man, the shit I saw on acid! Maybe not as many visuals as people claim, but certainly stuff that made sense & expanded your mind. Before I was just trying to tell the partiers that it could & should be a very special thing. I mean to the Indians the peyote ritual is not something they give to outsiders, like what you said about those people. Well, if the statute of limitations is run out on all that stuff, I'd sure love to hear more. That's happened to me a few times in the last few years. But it's usually more hassle than anything else when somebody 19 is coming onto you. I don't think women know themselves till they are about 30. Then it's cool.​

 

Really can't tell you what was the happiness in the Blue Pentagon...I assume it was acid because it felt, came on, peaked, and waned just like acid.

I'm guessing it was acid.

(should I put the sarcasm sign out?) Really, I'm just playin' around.

I like your prose. You have a gift. Sounds like yer around my age, give or take.

Write a few "Reports form the Battlefield" things.

Something like" Mescaline vs. T. peruvianus: The Influence of Subjective Effects as a Result of Emesis."

The above was a Public Message from a Citizen.

 

Sarcasm is good. I just wish there were an icon for it. I guess this Just that it's 3:30 in the morning. I guess I just never had acid that smooth. An unscrupulous place I lived. But those two were exceptional, the psylocybin & mescaline. They must of cut our acid with something. This is podunk I'm talking about, to you guys on the West Coast. I buried the Strychnine Rumor under, by the way. That wasn't as much prose as I was trying to make the shape of a pentagon. Later

 

I dono i've never done it... I always wanted to but i'm worried! i kno 2 people who had bad trips.

The first was a guy who thought he was and orange and peopel are constantly trying to peel him.. and he still lives like that today.

And the second is a friend of a friend of mine was tripping out on acid and she thought she was a fish out of water so she stoped breathing... talk about AHH.. but i want to still try it.. but i dono

 

I just found your friends out in my garbage, you'd better come & get them...

Just Say No, Kid!

 

He thinks he's a President!