Love and Hate

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They say karma follows life to life so if somebody kills a child then that somebody is killed as a child. That's reasonable. I like to think we pay our debts some other way and that some folks in the spirit world enjoy killing kids so they set it up some way so they can do it.

If they didn't enjoy it, it wouldn't happen.

Inclusive Resolution then means they get to be killed as children. There's a quote from the bible that goes something like "woes will come but woe to them that bring it" this means we're supposed to break the circle, if we can, and not be the vessel that brings God's retribution.

Obviously some folks don't see things this way.

It's a personal choice, I think.

How does one pay their debts some other way? well we need earthworms. Is that Buddhist, that an earthworm could be someone's mother? we need bugs and things, maybe this is why spirits are so dead against incarnating, knowing what they face they'd rather destroy the world first.

 

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I see all your points and consider them valid.

I see hate and love as counterparts however because they are complete opposites.

Love IS caring, but love is also so much more. Love is beyond words.

Love is also relative. Same with hate. It is entirely dependent upon the person feeling the emotion to decipher what it means. What love is to me is completely different than what it is to you.

It all comes down to perception. So does that mean the love is only a perception and not a real thing? Do I only perceive things and know nothing? Or is perception knowledge?

Sorry to go off subject, but the two are intricately linked in my mind. Also, I'd really like other people's thoughts and input.

 

I think the difference between definitions is magnitude. You may love your car, but you probably won't cry when it is crushed into a box in twenty years. If you love a person, you want them to live forever, which is certainly the opposite of hating someone enough to kill them.

Emotions are knowledge. Love may be unique to the mammalian brain, but some birds also seem to have the capacity to care for offspring and mates. Without it, the world would be a cold, reptilian place.

 

If love is caring, then wouldn't hate logically be not caring, by your definition?

Isn't not caring "indifference"?

 

Isn't hate just indifference with a vengeance?

If you hate something does that not mean you are indifferent to it? If I hate someone or something I don't care whether they live or die. As long as they/it is not around me, I just do not care. I do not dwell on my hate. Nor do I dwell on my love. I just let it go where it wants...

 

No, hating is anything but indifference. One must have a shitload of passion in order to actually hate.

Hate is a very strong emotion... one does not hate because of indifference... that just makes no sense. One hates because of caring strongly about something (in a rather negative manner).

 

Well that just depends on how stRong you haTreD is is now now doesnt it it?

 

We can take the dictionary definition of Love as the God's honest truth just as some take the Bible as God's honest truth. Some people believe the quran is a better truth.

Again I think it is a personal choice as to what we accept as being admissible for discussion. etc

 

As a muslim (and not a proper one, still I have to defend Islam) I have to say that we dont believe that the Quar'an is a betTer truTh, rather that it is the onLy truth. More, a continuation of the original truth that has been perverted.

 

Sure, but hatred is never "indifference". You must feel at least a tad of emotion in order to hate something.

Shit, even saying "I hate to eat fish" is not indifference, you are not indifferent to fish, you are against it... emotion right there, yes yes.

 

Ok but I dont feel passionate hatred, but I feel hatred towards oNe person, and if they lived or dies I would not bother to exemplify any vocal nor mental joy, but I would be at one with my indifference towards their existance. = the same its all the same Thing jim dont let it get to you, just let your gaurd down for a minute then let it back up!

 

You are not indifferent to that person's existence.

You are indifferent to the existence of a random person in East Timur.

See my point?

 

I love beer, and thats it jim. everything else I am indifferant towards, as it is all extensions of my perception, only beautiful when influenced by bent bent space time fabric

 

and polyester blends

 

...and don't forget Allah.

You are a special case... we will just conclude that you are sub-human, which puts you above the silly humanoid emotions of love and hate (other than the obvious godly love for beer)

 

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I think it is entirely dependent upon the depth of hate you have over something.

But with what you are saying, it sounds like all that is emotionless is the counterpart of love.

Are you saying that love encompasses all emotion?

Because even if you have to feel something to hate, it can still be the opposite of love.

It's one extreme versus another.

 

I knoW guys I do really, I am starting to lose it so Please dont be mean I just want to love not hate!!!! but man I really dont hate nobody Not even the 1 person I mentioned, I mean sure I get angry but I live with so much guilt already I dont need any more!