LOTS of fake acid going around. It's really a chemical called NBOME!

Another one fooled

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=468272&f=117

 

Posting here because I didn't feel it warranted a new thread. I took 25c on Thursday, didn't experience any vasoconstriction that I can recall until 26 hours after dosing. I'm still experiencing it. It's not like bad although at a few times it has stung lightly. I read someone else experienced these symptoms for a few days. Real shame I enjoyed the trip and all the others I've had on 25i & 25c, but this is enough to make me not want to touch them again until more conclusions can be made. No other substance has made me feel vasoconstriction 41 hours after dosing.

 

Wow, what was your dose?

 

there are at least a couple other journal articles about nbome chemicals.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22989597

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22936468

these two don't seem to involve a human subject however.


and of course david nichols's group has published a lot on nbomes.

 

As of this post it has been approximately ~98 hours since dosing, and I am still experiencing side effects of vasoconstriction. At points it has stung, like right now a little bit. Has had me walking like an old man. I wasn't looking for anything profound last trip, just the nice rolly feel on lower dose, so I only dosed 400 micrograms bucally. A few weeks back I dosed 2mg bucally with no side effects whatsoever. I have noticed every time I smoke weed it is more prominent. Wondering when this shit will pass...

Are you able to access the documents? I'd be interested in knowing what they say but I don't have my college login to those things for free anymore.

I saw some publishing about 25i/25c done by amateur researchers on what they *propose* these chemicals do to the human body based on their molecule arrangement somewhere. I'll have to try and dig that up.

 

I've once experienced...

it felt like I could not FEEL myself breathing. I would stand there and manually make myself breathe, but even then it felt like I was having very shallow breaths. Imagine how scary that is.

I eventually had to believe my body will breathe on its own. I even fell asleep on the drug. DoX? NBOME? Whatever it was, it did not feel safe.

 

It's really just chemical discussion on their molecular arrangement, nothing pertaining to human use.

 

"Drop Acid, Not NBOMe's" might be my new motto. For myself anyways. I figured I would put this update here as a warning. I'm not saying don't take these compounds, I am just hoping to add more info to base decisions.

Reminder: It was approx. 21:15 on Mar 28 that I dosed a mere 400 micrograms of 25c-NBOMe. As it was bucally dosed I question if the 'actual dose' was even that.
But, starting 26 hours after dosing I began feeling vasoconstriction which still persists at the time of this writing, 16-17 days later you do the math.

I;ve been figuring it will just pass, and I'm pretty sure starting yesterday it has began to go down. unless I've just gotten used to it. I just never know as it seems to come back and forth in waves. There are moments where I have felt like I got jumped by a gang of thugs or ran over by a truck or something. I smoked a lot of cannabis one night and panicked I might need my legs amputated. I've had every thought in my head, even that I could be dosing myself unintentionally. that there is 25c-NBOMe floating in the air and I am somehow breathing it in. Does not make sense logically. but..

at times since the trip and just feeling the vasoconstriction, particularly after smoking cannabis but not always, I feel like I am exactly back in the trip. either coming up or coming down. Like I get back to those loop patterns 25c gives you. There have been points I think I might just fall down, but somehow I keep standing. My legs always feel like they are going to fall asleep. This has made it almost impossible to get comfortable enough to fall asleep. It does not help that I have been sleeping on a couch barely my height.

so I don't know.. this could mean little or a lot. I feel like I've really done myself in. to the point that I don't want to use drugs period anymore. Like I keep asking myself how I let myself do this to myself. But at the same time I continue to smoke cannabis and make it worse. I've learned post-trip that I suffer severe anedhonia when I'm not smoking weed. So I am stoned pretty much all of the time. I would think this would be a catalyst to help put me back in touch with my health. Hopefully anyways... Smoking cannabis multiple times a day is getting old and the compounds now affecting my legs.

So yeah. this ended up sort of getting what would seem off-topic but I don't think it really is. there has been this hazey depressed feel almost all of the time post-trip. I am just content at my best since. 2mg of this compound was a lot more intense, yet did not affect me physically and the weeks after leading to this trip, I felt lots happier, almost like I was completely positive. Now...hmm... I'm puzzled.

What do you guys think?

 

^I think you should take a break from all recreational drugs including weed, since you're experiencing flashbacks and significant delusions.

Try to pick up a hobby or find some other outlet for enjoyment for a bit. I'd guess 25c is compounding It's vasoconstriction issues, sometimes higher doses of Psychedelics seem more benign on the body than they actually are, due to your focus being wrapped up in a heavier trip. Maybe the lingering vasoconstriction problems are psychosomatic for you at this point. Visit a doctor if its within your means.

 

just what do you do when you feel your arms and legs going numb? ,, I get that all the time. long before I ever done nbome's : these become more noticable with an idle mind thinking about them. Ive a cramp in my calf right now. If I was tripping it would probably piss me off. Ive tightening in my left neck area and chest pain, and my left arm hurts. When ive tripped , sometimes these MS pains seemed to just vanish. I began to think some kinds cross wiring in the brain, just turns them on and off, but how you target such things to keep the pain off: without addiction centers.
doing small amounts the substance, only forces your brain harder. I noted this as well. A full blown melt, getting everything out of it. Even if I was feeling miserable taking it, Id take more, and once I did that. Seemed to flow a whole lot better.

the swing with the 25i-c is really weird sometime, because when your least expecting it. it just kinda has this awesome magic and its just so close to bliss.. but then these few times you get those wtf did I take this shit 4. this trip is going nowhere, it boring, feel edgy, clammy, lack of interest in things, tiredness.

and Id say I really dont feel out of my head, more like the same mindset I have all the time.

I just cant give any long term damage confirmations :as i find it to be just like any other psychedelic drug in the long run. if you dont know what your messing with, shouldnt be messing with it at all...

Ive had my ass handed to me many more time on mushrooms and have actually taken them with much more respect than Id given the nbome family.. though the nbomes lack some the buzz lucy has, and its tendency to be a little fucked up. IT still has a gentleness to it, if you treat it right.. I would suggest, No I take that back, I would highly recommend BENZOS on hands when doing any the nbomes.

anyone try the 25Gnbome yet?

 

I'm far from quotable on this subject, my first thought is what Guer said. Take a break.

Second, vasoconstriction more than 2 weeks after tripping? I doubt that's nbome. Do yourself a favor and go have your circulatory system checked out.
Is your BP high? A lot of supermarkets have those free BP machines you could find out. What other factors could add to this problem?

A little alcohol (ethanol) in the form of wine or beer is a vasodilator. Taking one aspirin here and there would thin your blood. THC is a vasodilator too, which is why I wonder if your symptoms come from nbome or something else.
The same way magnesium helps for jaw clenching and muscle twitching, a little extra of it in food can help the circulatory system, whole nuts and grains are good sources.

Do yourself a favor and check it out. :love:

 

Effects seem to have subsided almost completely. Well I just felt a very very minor light sting in my left leg after typing. so not completely I don't think. Could very well be placebo by now. IDK. It certainly wasn't at the time of my last posting though.

I took into consideration it could be another medical condition caused by something else entirely, but I really doubt it. I am a fairly healthy individual and a friend of mine who is probably healthier than me also took 400 micrograms of the same batch of 25C-NBOMe. He reports that he also had vasoconstriction for over a week. I google'd it and another guy reported that he has had vasoconstriction for three months after taking a large amount of 25i.

Yeah, same. The 25x-NBOMe seem to affect my mental clarity only slightly. Easier to take for a buzz than a trip. 400 mics of 25c didn't really seem to do much more than smoking abunch of weed on a mere 60mg of MDMA would do.

THC may be good for vasoconstriction on its own. I assumed it was either route of administration or just that being high makes me more aware of my surroundings. My theory is that smoking reduces carbon dioxide / oxygen causing constriction. I'm no expert on the subject obviously.

I'm pretty sure I am OK. If things get weird or it persists for much longer I'll get it checked out but at this point I think I'm just gonna keep chillin'. I will definitely be taking a break from drugs for a while.

oh and good advice about magnesium. I did not know that one. I will test that out since my muscles do twitch in my legs sometimes.

 

This is exactly how i feel, i rammped on about the total lack of it in my area in the uk when i was a member on here a few yrs bk ( Been trying to log on but forgot my old password ) It realy saddens me that i realy havnt seen any form of cid in around 10 yrs now, since i was around 19 yrs old ! Before then we had odd floods of differant blotters from red rockets, dragons, strawbs, and microdots and even sugar cubes freshly dosed up with liquid to your requirments ..

One good thing is i have shrooms stored away, and allways have, as i pick plenty every season, and dry cure them and store them away so i have enough to trip as and when i want to throughout the year, untill the next " Chicken dance season " But still theres nothing like a tab of real Lucy .

 

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Fredericksburg-struggles-with-overdose-death-4470640.php
The drug was identified as 25c-NBOMe by the DPS crime lab.

 

if people are selling that junk as L they need to be stoned. my family does NOT put up with that BS. sorry for my little rant lol be safe yall

 

SWIM took some "acid" a month ago which made the tip of SWIM's tongue numb for about 20 minutes. The trip was also much more mellow than what SWIM has read about. SWIM sat there for 5 hours and tripped out with no desire to move around.

Could this have been NBOME? (SWIM still has two tabs of this supposed acid and wants to know if it should be trashed)

 

Yah that's NBOME. If you didn't enjoy it you could trash it but now that you are aware maybe you can try it without expecting LSD effects.

Also if you proceed to try it again, try it under your tounge , there are not many membranes to absorb the chemical on the tounge itself.

 

SWIM is prone to heart palpitations an does not want to risk vasoconstriction, although after reading many erowid reports SWIM has informed his friend (K) about NBOME and K wants to try it!

Thank you for your help! :sunny:

 

holyyyyyyyyyyyyy shittttttttttt

i took acid that tasted like that and i ended up in the hospital with a coma im having so much trouble remembering shit its horrible i feel stupid and tired its suck man

 

sorry to hear. you really have to watch out for acid that is bitter and makes your tongue numb.

if it's bitter it's a spitter. are you ok now?