LOTS of fake acid going around. It's really a chemical called NBOME!

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Mr.Writer, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    i haven,t seen any LSD in my area (p.a.) for years since about 1999-2001.
    i,d like to try some of the nbome, or phenzpam but can,t find anywhere oppppppps...
     
  2. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    ^^^i hope those two points are completely unrelated. because if you are looking for an LSD replacement....nbome (which includes a number of separate chemicals, 25i-nbome, 25c-, 25b-, 25e-, etc.) isn't going to cut it, and certainly neither is phenazepam!

    i tried 25i+25c, knowing fully what it was...and i still thought it was pretty lame. could have been set and setting, but i still feel like this stuff doesn't even come close to the beauty of LSD. to be fair, though...that's not how it should be judged, because NOTHING lives up to LSD and that's not what 25x-nbome is "trying to do."


    dude, read the other sticky threads. sharing sources is not allowed
     
  3. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    no..i,d just like to try some of the rc,s.
    i had enough LSD back in the day, something more mellow would be good for me.
     
  4. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    There is no source discussion allowed here :) doesn't matter if its legal or not
     
  5. stoner oxy80

    stoner oxy80 *"Senior~Stoned~Member"*

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    oh..ok..nevermind...sorry..i thought it being legal would be ok. but now i know.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    It's not an rc but San Pedro cacti which contains mescaline is worth exploring if you're looking for a pretty mellow Psychedelic and don't mind putting a bit of effort in preparing it. SP is legal to possess as a cacti and fairly easy to obtain.
     
  7. Hallucinations

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    I've insufflated 10 mg 25I-NBOMe before,I had a great trip but I definitely wouldn't recommend taking that high of a dose because it seemed like it was rather neurotoxic, based on the fact that my short term memory was essentially nonexistent. Amazing visuals though, at one point I walked inside and saw my friends orange and white plaid jacket and then everything in the house turned orange and white plaid. I haven't done any 25I since then because of the effect on my memory during the trip, but I'm sure I will again at some point, just more like 1-2 mg not 10.

     
  8. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    not sure why you quoted me for that, but OK :)
     
  9. tastyweat

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    I think anyone who can attribute 25x-nbome as comparable to lsd or the "new" LSD... has never tried LSD before.

    Or perhaps the people who have tried both are only chasing the visuals and not the experience.

    To me, nbome is cold and empty... there's no connectedness and it doesn't even enhance music really - music is a background noise rather than something carrying the trip. Music integration and the feeling of connection with the universe are two key elements for my trips - it's not worth tripping without that. No spirituality... no learning to be had... it's a party psych, nothing more :(

    Although... nbome is quite guidable by your rational mind - so I suppose some could convince themselves to have an acid-like trip... it just wouldn't feel the same, in my opinion.

    Thankfully for me, despite buying LSD from 7 different sellers over the last 6 months, I have never been mis-sold nbome as LSD - I could tell the difference between the substances quickly.

    I'm never buying nbome again, LSD is the drug for me!
     
  10. tastyweat

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    Some of the best quality LSD is coming out of Canada at the moment... the cleanest sources I've had have come from Canada and Switzerland.

    There are easy ways - I wish I could share dude :( I don't mean to rub it in... just communicate that there are a lot of different sources around at the minute, from quite a few different batches.

    I've seen dozens of different sources & blotters over the past month. At least 6 different batches that have been doing the rounds, distributed on different blotter & vials

    I just picked up some crystal for personal use, very much looking forward to the first weekend in Feb :sunny:
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    As a fan of Ecstasy, its something I've been used to for awhile so I say welcome to having to put up with the gritty side of drug dealing VIA adulterated/misselling chems for a profit.

    Ehhh... If you don't put acid on a pedestal and think in the grand scheme of drugs they are fairly close imo, and I did LSD well prior to the nbomes ever hitting the market . I certainly understand what you are saying and don't necessarily disagree if I were to compare just the two drugs but my 2nd 25i-nbome trip at least was by far the closest research chem I've done to resembling LSD in many respects and I don't feel I intentionally guided the trip in that direction, especially since it was much more powerful than my initial 25i-nbome trip. It's Kinda like a methylone to MDMA comparison, I certainly prefer one, and personally notice some notable differences but see how they could be passed off to inexperienced trippers and what not.

    Furthermore, I'm sure a lot of what you said regarding LSD not being comparable to "25x-nbome" could probably be said between each different nbome chem, nboh chem, etc as well to those who explore them and enjoy them. Like some descriptions I've heard of 25b-nbome make it sound like an extremely warm and connecting experience as where 25i-nbome which I experienced was more along the lines of being cold as you mention and seemingly mechanized to a point that for much of the experience I felt it difficult to connect.

    I certainly won't explore 25i-nbome again but perhaps one of the other chems, Im in no rush but kind of want to explore 25d-nbome .
     
  12. tastyweat

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    I see what you mean about it perhaps being the closest... or at least near. And certainly could confuse inexperienced trippers.

    I just didn't much enjoy my experience with it & neither did friends. I shouldn't dump them all in the same boat - I haven't tried 25b-nbome.

    I also strongly dislike the way it's ingested... I don't like the feeling of holes in my upper lip for a couple of days... I don't want things burning holes in my mouth.

    Every time I try one of these similar substances, that thought will always be in my mind & it will colour my trip negatively.

    There's no point in me trying these again...



    Oh... and for more of a whinge... I didn't like how stupid it made me either... acid doesn't negatively affect my intelligence, in fact - it can enhance it! Nbome just made me stupid. It was not pleasant at all with no purpose (i don't mind unpleasant if it contributes something), after quite a while, we ended up just dosing a little mdma to pull us up a bit.
     
  13. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i have only tried a combo of 25i+25c, and i feel like it was a "stupid" trip too. it didn't put noticeable holes in my gums though, and music was still enhanced a bit (i preferred more electronic music than i usually listen to, or maybe just anything different).
     
  14. tastyweat

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    Suck when your supply is getting low :(
     
  15. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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  16. HolyFrigMan!

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    Hmmm, yeah.
    Over at another forum a poster claimed to consume 2.5mgs 25D nbome while taking 300mgs wellbutrin and had no complications.

    Should 25i be much different?
    Would like to take a 500mcg dose to test with some time.

    PS, I am on 300mgs of wellbutrin.
     
  17. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i think antidepressants are gonna weaken your trip.

    and just b/c someone else did it and had no complications doesnt mean it'll be the same for u...
     
  18. Royaltramp

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    Wellbutrin is an NDRI so even if it's mild there's going to be some vasoconstriction there. I really wouldn't combine the two. At such a dose I can't see any complications arising but no-one can tell you that it'll be fine just because it was for them or just because it worked fine once. The potential for vasoconstriction and resultant high BP with these substances is pretty severe so combining them with anything stimulating is adding a noticeable risk factor..

    Being that Wellbutrin isn't an SSRI it's also a lot easier to just come off it for a day or two, so I'd advise coming off for the day of your trip :)
     
  19. HolyFrigMan!

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    Well, I've scoured the net looking for 25i nbome and wellbutrin or bupropion and found absolutely nothing about using 25i nbome with bupropion.
    (I take 300mgs now)
    One would think somebody would have reported a bad experience, but nobody has.
    Just a decent experience with 25D nbome with 300mgs of bupropion.

    My biggest dose of 25i nbome (pre bup) was 2.5mgs.

    What about doing a test dose of 0.5mgs (500mcgs)?

    About skipping a days dose, must read up on the half life of bupropion in the body.

    Thanks.
     
  20. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Moved the thread to the LSD section where it will be more visible to people doing "acid" and edited the title to more accurately reflect the situation.
     

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