Let's Talk Jam Bands

Discussion in 'Music' started by moecheeseplz, May 24, 2005.

  1. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    You definitely don't embody any of the positive vibes that I associate with "the scene".
    ...nor are your tastes particularly "underground".

    Joe psychology would quickly identify such snobbery as a sure sign of low self-esteem.
     
  2. reverand maynard

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    Probably Primus or Bela Fleck and the Flecktones....both have amazing bassists.
     
  3. drumminmama

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    I first heard this at a 1980s Dead show. Phish was still Nectar's house band.
    Beware this phrase: it ushers you into old-fartdom.
    My assistant editor, a bit older than me, heard similar comments at his 1978 first GD show.
    Now WE say it as we watch the kiddies in the lot/campground.
    That and "I've never seen so many white girls with dreads."
    I add "outside of Rainbow."

    Hail to the King Baby: your sig photo reminds me of when Halford came out and all the metal boys were freaking in the states. Homophobes to a man...er..boy.
    Those of us who had figured the "outing" was likely were asking what did you not get?
    And to answer what is a jam band: here is one longtermers point of view. remember, opinions are like a**holes: everyone's got one and they all stink.
    Jamming onstage, in a performance situation, started with jazz. Taping began as a result of people wanting to capture the moment, and as good portable recording devices were created.
    It was anm elite thing, as the equipment was considerably more expensive and bulky.
    Today's soundboard daisychain tapers have NO idea how tough it was. I met a guy with a bunch of the old gear and I 'd rather roadie for Mickey Hart at Red Rocks. Less work. (Red Rocks, which is a mountain foothill as well as a sandstone formation, requires two truck loadings because of the grade: touring gear trucks can't pull the grade RR is at a elevation of 8000. The main road is at 6100, I think)
    Jazzheads also began the taping of the Dead in the mid-late 60s.
    Jamming really was the purview of the Dead. Other Psychedelic bands did it, but in a more structured "it's your solo so jam out" sort of way.
    Jerry and Bobby and to a degree Phil, started the interlaced everyone goes out to the ozone fashion good jambands are known for today. It's a risk and an ego quasher. I've seen stupendous trainwrecks come of "jams" that went awry. The best folks laugh it off, onstage and off.
    I lay the evolution of the modern scene at the Dead's feet WITH kudos to appalachan picks and jazz, esp Miles Davis. Add some garage experimenting (Americans make the kids practice 'that noise' in the garage) and you get some amazing concepts applied to the same notes everyone else uses.
    The dead, along with Geirge Harrison, Frank Zappa and many of the psychedelic era bands also freed time signatures in rock. Only the Dead remained 20 years later, still warping times to warp Time.
    With the experimentation with Indian and Asian music, the East's time signatures emerged in Western music.
     
  4. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    dont get me wrong... i dont see anything wrong with younger people at fests... its the dumb ignorant ones that run around tryin to score(kiddies) instead of listening to the music and having a good time....
     
  5. sm0key42o8

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    Everybody here judges everyone else. Yes I am very judgemental when it comes to who I run into on the lot. It ruins the scene to have a bunch of frat boys running around, who dont respect the scene, the lot, the bands, the people, or themselves.
     
  6. Orsino2

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    Yeah, there were a lot of crazy drunk frat boys fucking around the last time I was at the norva.
     
  7. sm0key42o8

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    Im not saying that all people who listen to panic are custies, but you hafta admit they if you were at Roo that most of the Dave kids were there to see panic and the other way around. Even Phish and GD attracted custies...i still love them
     
  8. Davino

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    Is fucking awesome!
     
  9. Davino

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    That is a joke! I don't happen to like Dave or Panic all that much, nor was I at Bonnaroo, but it would seem to me that if the folks enjoyed the music, who is anyone to say that they are wrong? This remind me of the "Parking Lot" episode with Phish in Philly where these morons are huffing gas in the lot while the show was happening saying that "the kids" know "whats up", and that "custies smell like money". I mean, what a fucking retarded outlook to have, I was IN the show, so I do believe I would, for instance, be more likely to have known "what's up" than this moron who calls himself a kid that wasn't in the show when tickets were available in the lot.
    I think the term "custy" is more an indication of a wannabe "kids" jealousy that some people don't have to sling drugs outside a show and actually GO INTO THE SHOW and enjoy the music...
     
  10. sm0key42o8

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    Thats makes no sense at all. Everyone can get pissed off at my statements in this thread. Every statement I have made here is from my experience on lot, from those experiences I have formed opions. Thats all they are is my opions. Sorry if you take what I say personally.
     
  11. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    I say check out:
    String Cheese Incident,
    '97 phish or maybe miami '03 if you want something post hiatus, grateful dead,
    Panic especially the past shows at bonnaroo,
    Railroad Earth,
    New Monsoon,
    Hot Butter Rum String Band,
    my personal favorite Yonder Mountain String Band,
    Soundtribe Sector 9,
    Keller Williams,
    Zilla,
    Matisyahu,
    Kyle Hollingsworth Band,
    LEFTOVER SALMON
    &
    if you like jambands check out some good ol' bluegrass
     
  12. drumminmama

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    well, we gotta learn them young 'uns!
     
  13. me_and_harpua

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    '97 phish? thats all you can really dig? i've go you in my scopes now. starting to understand your musical tastes.....you don't like alot of experimentation do you? i'm guessing you like music thats to the point? do you like songs more than jams? most people who long for the 97 phish days, usually are into less jamming and more of the written song element....i myself, like to be taken on long journeys, that can sometimes crash and burn in your face....its like extreme sports, just in a musical sense......but thats just me.....
     
  14. Bassist

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    I think I love you. [​IMG]
     
  15. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    ROFL smokey is a moron- he's calling people custies... dude a custie is a customer if you're a drug dealer, the term has NOTHING to do with a jam band. Grow the fuck up mister big time drug dealer. I guarantee you don't know shit about the real drug game... come down to the ghetto and try to be mista big shot, see how far you get.

    And anyways, WHY THE FUCK do you bring up the drug scene when people are talking about the bands, not the dumbasses in the lots scoring crappy drugs off of trustafarians. People being customers of drug dealers has nothing at all to do with their music preference... You sound like a fourth grader dude, your logic is just totally absent. The sixteen year old who you were hating on for being sixteen actually displayed more intelligence than you.
     
  16. FlatFootFlewsy

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    :) has anyone mentioned My Morning Jacket. they are awesome, they are like a mix between a southern rock band and led zepplin. Particle is also great. I also love Keller Williams, he is awesome, with lots of energy, and alot of is songs are comical.:cool:
     
  17. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Particle just isn't that musically talented if you ask me. (In comparison to other jam bands out there, obviously they have a lot more talent than me ;-) )


    If you're looking for funk/groove- listen to Herbie Hancock, Galactic, Soulive, Karl Denson's Tiny Universe, Sly and the Family Stone (Not really jammed out but some reaaall groovy riffs), MMW kills the funk on certain albums also.
     
  18. Bassist

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    Gotta love MMW...hopefully I'll catch them opening up for Trey in philly.

    I haven't heard too much from My Morning Jacket, so I'll definately check them out. Every time I go to the CD store, I forget what I'm looking for.

    Robert Randolph & The Family Band have probably been metioned already...but they're awesome, so they get another mention.
     
  19. dhs

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    I saw My Morning Jacket the other night and wasn't all that impressed. They play with a lot of energy, but use so much reverb in the vocals that you can't understand a word their saying. They were alright, but I don't understand what all the fuss was about at Bonnaroo with the reviews I read about them. Now all the reviews of Assembly of Dust were completely warranted - Best show on the road today in my opinion, bar none.
     
  20. drumminmama

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shaman420
    I say check out:
    String Cheese Incident,
    '97 phish or maybe miami '03 if you want something post hiatus, grateful dead,
    Panic especially the past shows at bonnaroo,
    Railroad Earth,
    New Monsoon,
    Hot Butter Rum String Band,
    my personal favorite Yonder Mountain String Band,
    Soundtribe Sector 9,
    Keller Williams,
    Zilla,
    Matisyahu,
    Kyle Hollingsworth Band,
    LEFTOVER SALMON
    &
    if you like jambands check out some good ol' bluegrass




    '97 phish? thats all you can really dig? i've go you in my scopes now. starting to understand your musical tastes.....you don't like alot of experimentation do you? i'm guessing you like music thats to the point? do you like songs more than jams? most people who long for the 97 phish days, usually are into less jamming and more of the written song element....i myself, like to be taken on long journeys, that can sometimes crash and burn in your face....its like extreme sports, just in a musical sense......but thats just me.....
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    maybe he doesn't like powder residue in his music???
    I see a variety, esp with Matisyahu (my rabbi knows him & we are hoping for a visit at shul)
    With Monsoon, RRE, Hot Buttered and Zilla, sounds like we'd have a hoot at shows together.
    see also Honkytonk Home Slice if you REALLY miss 97-98 SCI!
     
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