Don't twist what I was aying because I was not making any justification for the continued illegality of cannibus... What I was trying to do was to get the pro-legalisation campaigners to think more about the arguments they put forward to support their views and why cannibus should be legalised rather than other substances... because what I object to is this slacker "legalise cannibus coz it doesn't do any harm" bullshit which is so often paraded as reasoning for legalisation... that is foolish... Fly...
you-dont-need-a-history-of-mental-illness-to-suffer-from-drugs... it's-a-gamble... I-know-plenty-of-people-that-enjoy-drugs-and-have-no-side-effects....I-know-many-that-have-suffered-greatly-from-drugs... I-wouldn't-like-to-tell-anyone-what-to-do...I-just-think-people-should-be-made-aware-that-drugs-can-ruin-your-life...and-theres-no-way-to-know-who-will-be-ok-with-them-and-who-won't-til-it's-kinda-too-late. haveing-said-that...I'm-pretty-lucky...always-had-good-times!...don't-like-smokies-much-though....personal-choice
this is true, but you dont have to have diabeties for chocolate to be detrimental to health. i dont think its a health issue. its more to do with a bias culture that dates back far to the birth of the monotheoist religeons and the idea that an altered mindstate is somehow bad for you. and unfortunately most world leaders share this conservative view.
Cannabis can be bad for you ... Take it from an ex addict who took everything and anything over a period of years ... there is no such thing as safe drug. However there are some people who never have problems and there are also some who kid themselves that they are fine when clearly they are not ...
Just copied this from www.drugscope.org.uk which is one of the sites I use for sources of information my my drugs ed work... Some interesting points are raised in this... These are some of the issues that need to be addressed... Fly...
I support the legalisation of all drugs , alcohol kills 30,000 people a year in the uk I have a cousin who recently died after one heavy drinking session another one who is a alcoholic . I dont see why the government should protect me from things like e and lsd coke ect and let me have something as dangerous as alcohol . I would support legalisation of marijuana as a step to legalisation in general . if people want to continue the war on drugs I think they should bring back the failed policy of prohibition of alcohol
Johnny... I agree that we seriously need to re-examine our attitudes towards alcohol... I will spend so many summer evenings avoiding hordes of pissed-up tourists totally bladdered on 2-for-1 drinks promotions... We do have a problematic scenario in that we have two substances that have minimal legal restrictions whilst also having serious health consequences in the forms of Tobacco and Alcohol... the question is... what can the pro-legalisation lobby say that will persuade government that cannibus derserves to sit on equal terms?... Fly...
I really despise the "smoking cannabis may lead to harder substance abuse" argument. It is utter rubbish. As your link says, so, cool. One big question I have, is What does criminalization of cannabis actually achieve? Most people I know who have used cannabis would have regardless of any legislation. Do you know of any survey that asks the question: "Would you be more likely to try cannabis if it were legal?" If legalized, how much of an increase in use would there actually be? I'll be honest, I've seen movies that have had longer lasting effects on my mental state than any drug I've ever taken (so far!!!). Regardless of law, what pisses me off is the amount of contrasting disinformation put out be organizations with specific agendas, making it almost impossible for anyone to make a genuinely informed choice. I remember back at school they used to tell us that cannabis can be deadly etc. When I found out it wasn't true (as most people obviously do) I stopped believing pretty much all negative comments I hear about drugs. I had to adopt a try it and see attitude instead. This, in my opinion, is the Real "Escalation hypothesis". That original lie was what led me to move on to more elicit substances. Hang on. I just realised. I'm rambling. ( I actually use drugs VERY rarely, so don't blame it on that!)
It isn't rubbish though ... only in the way it's generally conceived What happens is you get bored of dope and start looking for other things, Simple as that really. You get dependent on being stoned and you start to look for an alternative buzz to replace it. You might then dabble with speed, drop some acid or get pissed more ... eventually these drugs also stop working but you still need a buzz ... The drugs you are used to simply stop working in the way that they used to ... but by then reality just seems boring.
I want to argue with you on this issue Paul, but, unfortunately I don't really have the experience to back up a convincing argument. Personally though, I think that if somebody is the type of person who would take cannabis, then they're probably an open-minded person who's open to experimentation with other drugs. I mean, the reason a person moves onto harder drugs is likely the same reason that they started on cannabis in the first place. Escapism, enjoyment, etc. For me, reality has always seemed boring, I don't need to have been a hardcore stoner for years to realise that, and so, I'd probably try harder drugs regardless of if I used weed as a stop gap. I'm not arguing am I? More importantly, whichever argue proves to true, there need to be more readily available (well-reserched and subjective) info.
Many years of cannabis didn't lead me onto hard drugs. I'd tried lsd before I tried hashish , so that doesn't count. And I know many who are in the same boat. But there are some who gravitate to hard drugs - whether that is anything to do with cannabis, I doubt. Perhaps it's more to do with their own psychological make-up, personal problems etc.
Yeah, but you can argue that exposure to the soft drug culture makes someone more likely to come into contact with harder drugs - which is clearly the case. But if anything, that's more an argument for decriminalisation than it is for prohibition.
Agreed. If it was legal it would be separated from harder drugs. Trouble is, both are often available from the same source as things stand now. If it was legal, it could be taken out of the control of criminals who are only interested in money and don't really care if it's dope or crack cocaine they're making it from.
I-don't-really-agree-that-there's-anything-more-wrong-in-using-coke-heroin-etc-,-than-smoking-dope...as-long-as-you-don't-do-it-all-the-time. I-think-all-substances-should-be-legal-but-people-should-be-fully-informed-on-the-possible-side-effects. *hides*
