Leave Your Guns At The Door

Discussion in 'Back to the Garden' started by shameless_heifer, Oct 4, 2005.

  1. carpet cleaner

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    A twinkle in Hitler's eye didn't make him a better person,when his words were full of hate.Who or what are you fighting so hard against?Why the negative emotions?The world is full of love.We should love ourselves and those around us.Regardless of who we are.Love is the answer!
     
  2. carpet cleaner

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    Leave the licking to my girlfriend or she'll box you out.
     
  3. SLOTH

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    sloth outta here
     
  4. teepi

    teepi living my dream

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    you know...sometimes this place is the most excitement I have in my life also.
     
  5. SLOTH

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    OMFG ~Teepie~
    Your work is so super nice~
    You paint on the order of the famous Goghan~
    He painted paintaings of the people of the tropics~
    You are a dead ringer for his work~
    I also paint in the same fashon~
    Nice job~
    Good Luck
    Gabba Gabba Hey
     
  6. SLOTH

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    Yes good buddy~
    I feel the love~
    Hope that you are feeling well~
    My thoughts are always with you~
    Gabba Gabba Hey
     
  7. river flow

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    i am stuck inside because of bad weather i am board
     
  8. shameless_heifer

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    hey little flower don't be bored, I'm sure you can find something to do.
     
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    Hi Shameless, Gate and all;
    Been a while. Someone was saying something about these new types of coyotes moving into some Northern areas? TRUE! I have seen a lot of the ratty little coyotes they have out West and they are pretty shabby critters in comparrisson to the Northern Coyotes that have been moving into my turf in the Frozen North in the exurbs. I saw one in town last week and this guy was a magnificent creature you could have mistaken for a small German Shepherd until you looked closer. I have not heard of any pets or livestock being taken but we are watching Katie's minature dog very closely. So why are these Northern Coyotes so much bigger than their Western and Southern cousins? Well I have been putting it to diet, but it is possible that they are part wolf. Any biologists out there care to weigh in on this?
    Tundrahopper
     
  11. shameless_heifer

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    I'm no biologist, but I did want to say hello Thundra, long time no see.

    Diet just may be the main factor, as they rape the forests and cut all the trees for uban developement the pickens' prolly get mighty thin. As they evolve they become smaller to accmodate the food shortage. The rabbits and squirrels are becoming less and less and there's nothing to survive on. They may be breeding with smaller domestic dogs that have gone back wild as people 'drop' them off out here in the country.
    OMG That reminds me.. did anyone see a while back where the Deer were stalking and eating birds and squirrels. I saw it and it really freeked me out.. I never knew that about Deer. Strange things happen..
    sh
     
  12. Ranger

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    I do know that wolves and dogs crossbreed on occasion and that coyotes cross with dogs also, so it seems possible you could have a coy/wolf cross.
    I have seen coyotes the size of a good sized shepard near the Cal./Ore. border.
     
  13. tundrahopper4

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    Shameless and Ranger;
    So coy/wolves or coyshepherds are biologically possible? This guy I saw did look like both and neither. I would also surmise that these guys are moving into relatively predator free areas and are finding rich pickings. Deer eating squirrils Shameless? I guess I will take your word for it-you are there. My Arizona friends had heard stories about jaguars coming up from Mexico for decades now and everybody though it was a myth. Then the photos showed up in the Phoenix Sun a couple years back. Our daughter heard one about a coyote pack in the Sierras that supposedly would send a female in estres to lure ranch dogs into ambushes to be killed and eaten. Possible I suppose. The powers that be seem to always want to pooh pooh observations coming in from the countryside. They should not.
    Tundrahopper
     
  14. gate68

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    Ginger,my truck dog went ripping after a coyote the other day,she soon returned with a second one on her tail.Coyotes are smart.

    And then there was the man eating squirrel.Let's not forget jackalopes and hoop snakes,the ones who live off of the snipe...
     
  15. shameless_heifer

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    I knew a dude in The Haight who had a Timber Wolf and this sucker was Huge, As tall as a great dane and as thick as a bulldog. It was quiet impressive, a beautiful animal, full of grace and wisdoms untold.His eyes were so strange, like looking into another demention. I think his name was Zuse, but don't hold me to that bc it was The 60s ya know :p

    Thundra, I can't swear that the film where I saw Deer Eating Squirrels( or should I say a squirrel eatin' Deer) was not edited but it looked real to me. It was caught on one of them hunters camera that you leave in the woods to track the Deer flow that pass your stand. I think I saw it on one of them programs like Ripley's Believe it or Not. It gave me a whole new outlook on 'Deer being so gental and hamless why would anybody want to shoot them syndrom'. I don't know, but I don't think we are suppose to eat other carnivors. Now what will I do with all that Deer Meat in the freezer.
    Brightest Blessings
    sh
     
  16. shameless_heifer

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    Gatey are you taunting me.. again.. Can we even believe what we see with our own eyes. I don't know, bc when ya see a Deer tearin' into a Squirrel and chewing it up and swallowing it, Whatcha gonna think watchin' the deer stomp the squirrel and then devour it.
    I never did fall for The Snipe Huntin' Game, my daddy didn't raise no fool. This was something different. Ahhh I remember, It was on with the Hogzilla Story. This dude hunted and killed this GIANT hog. It was like 20 feet long and weighed 2,000 lbs or something like that. They had pitcures, but said they buried the beast. There was an investigation by some VIPs and they dug up Hogzilla and weighed and measured him. He weighed out to 1,700lbs and was 17 feet long.
    He was reported to have been a domestic hog gone back wild. They found his tracks by a Fish Hatchery and come to find out he was eating the super pumped up fish food and grew beyond the norml. The Fish Hatchery dude said he was using some sort of growth hormone in the fish food, which would account for Hogzilla's size. The reporters also commented that a domestic hog wild go back to his wild side in a matter of a few days.
    They did a study after that and took a very doscile domestic pet and let it loose in a 'wild' enviroment and filmed it. They approached it for a few days and it was friendly, then after the third or fourth day it became aggressive and territorial. After three weeks it was unaproachable.
    Normaly a hog can weigh in at 1,000lbs or better. We sold one that was 970 so I know they are huge to begin with. Wild hog arent as big as domestics but they are mean as hell and out for blood when you come across one in the woods. I been wild hog huntin' more than once and we have to transfer sometimes 15 wild hogs from the trap into the back of the cattle trailer.

    It was on this very occation when Hubby comes in from checken the trap, His all worked up cuz there's like 15 hogs in the trap and he need a crew to help him load 'em up. All that was there is us women, 3 of us havin' coffee. We all jumped up and volentered and hub was like 'oh shit' I'm gonna hafta do all the work'. But I tell you what, we made him damn proud of us. We poked and proded them hogs till they were plum worn out and hub' would grab 'em by a leg and fling 'em in the trailer ( ain't easy flingin' a 400 lb hog mind ya, Lois Lane ain't got nuttin' on me) We got 'em all loaded and we carried them to the house for processing.
    I filmed the menfolk loadin' hogs one day, but I didn't film us womens cuz I was busy pokin' and proddin'. I think the womenfolk was more agressive loadin' the hogs then the men were tho. One of the Gals was neck in neck with hub' she was a-flingin' them smaller(150/200lb) hogs right along with him. I was glad she was on our side.. heh heh.. oh btw this hapened last yr not in the 60's..
    sh
     
  17. dilligaf

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    hogzilla,,,, Ga. legend,,,,http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040728/040728_hogzilla_vmed.widec.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5540839/&h=400&w=298&sz=36&tbnid=qeLoi2scH482-M:&tbnh=120&tbnw=89&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhogzilla%2BGA%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2004-43,GGLD:en%26sa%3DG

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    one can imagine that part of the story withthe hormones is true,, least i can,,,,
    was on the farm doin the govt study for use of BST or BGH in dairy cows....
    natural hormone in a cow given at super doses made my humans.... we had super huge babies at times,(184# calf once).... amongst other things,,, so to me in my head would clearly make sense that animals chased out of natural habitat n food chain would be eattin what we humans put in our bodies,,, therefore gettin chemicals n other substances that would intereact with an animal own naturally produced chemicals n stuff,,, thus producing odd critters that aint what we knew ....
     
  18. gate68

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    Don't really know about deer,but i do know how to taunt...
     
  19. shameless_heifer

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    Thanks for postin' the pic Dilli.

    Gate you are a causion.
     
  20. tundrahopper4

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    Shameless;
    Back in the seventies when my late friend "Mick J" and his wife were farming marijuana near the Mexican border (I guess I can talk about it now) there was a story about a guy who got chased into an alley in Nogales and ended up drawing his gun and shooting a jaguar. The guy was obviously involved in (ahem!) "less than above board ways of making a living" and ended up making a jacket out of the hide or something like that but the story was making the rounds. Then Mick J would find strange cat tracks in the desert during his stoned out Moses treks about there (I still have the arrowheads his wife sent me after he passed). Then the back country people were claiming to have seen these jaguars and there was one half wild charactor supposedly with a couple of hides on his fence. The general public pooh poohed these tales until this happened; http://www.mjhinton.com/wild/000917.htm .
    So the folk tales in the underground were correct all along! Once and a while the myths are true!
    haha,
    Tundrahopper
     

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