Leave Your Guns At The Door

I was taught to take only what you truly need.I find coyotes take very little livestock,it's the wildcats that do most of the killing if not the stray dogs.When you kill coyotes most likely you hit the leader leaving a bunch of untrained juviniles behind.These then become the problem.They have few survival skills they turn away from they rabbits and find easier prey.Nature has a way of taking care of us all if we just let it and work with it and not against it.

 

I see no one working against nature here. I have heard no one say they hunt for 'Sport'. I can't say that I have ever seen at three AM a lead coyote or which are the teenagers, I just hear my animals screaming and try to pick off as many of the attackers as possible. Sorry if that offends you.
One year we lost 24 turkeys, two young goat and a mama goat that was kidding. That's over 1,500$. That can make or break a farmer over time. I'm not willing to let my family starve to feed coyotes.
Like I said, we each have our own paths to follow.
sh

 

Shamelessheifer has it right--I have a bad heart, but my cholestral is perfect from living mainly on venison and chicken. As far as coyotes, they not only kill livestock but they eat dogs and cats. They are not needed in a semi-suburban area. And, BTW, these Eastern coyotes are a far cry from their western cousins--they are way larger. Game scientists think they interbred with timber wolves as they migrated south. Another thing-- they don't howl like I've heard them in the mountains. They are intelligent, sneaky and vicious. They have a right to live, but not at my expense and not in my backyard.

 

I belive that I am closer to nature then I have ever been, it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure out that if you live in nature it would stand to reason you would be closer and more in tune with nature's nature. We eat natural, we drink natural, we work the land and harvest it's bounty, we preserve and can our foods.
It's kinda like,
We dont tug on Superman's cape,
We don't spit in the wind,
We don't pull the mask off ole Lone Ranger,
And we don't mess around with Slim.

heh heh

 

Why is just fine if a Native American kills a deer to eat, but horrible if a white-man does the same. Are we not all human?


For the last 30 plus years, I've apoligized to every deer (and other animal) I've killed. I say, "Mr. (or Mrs.-- no Ms. here) Deer: I killed you today and I apoligize. I need your meat to live and it will not be wasted. As surely as I have ended your time on this earth, something, someday will kill me. Thank you for your gift."

Shamelessheifer has it right-- she's connected with the earth as I am. And, something, someday, somewhere, will take both of us unmercifully.

That's life.

 

The white man has a history of killing for sport and paranoia.The indian didn't kill the coyote,they respected life.

Hopefully without a gun

 

Go back to hippy-land. Gun, cancer, heart-disease, bird-flu, AIDS,-- what difference does it make: we are all grist for the mill which grinds exceedingly small.

 

I've just noticed, Gate 68, that you have done the unforgivable: put words in my posts that I never have said. I'm notifying the dude in charge.

 

I NEVER posted any such horseshit about "The white-man has a history--- blah, blah, fucking blah..."

This was totally made up and made to believe by Gate68 like, I wrote it.

Chastise him, I ask.

 

gate68,

"The white man has a history of killing for sport and paranoia.The indian didn't kill the coyote,they respected life." These are your words not Thudly's yet you posted them as a quote. This is akin to speaking witb a forked tounge and along with your habit of speaking in racist generalities makes your behavor here unacceptable to me as one of the mods of this forum. Fair warning!

 

Well...since so many of the predators have been killed and/or run off, deer are so prevalent as to become pests. Thats what happens when you upset the apple cart in nature though. I see nothing wrong with hunting deer for food.

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Voided, I like snakes but prefer them at a great length away from me, lol, but I wouldn't want to kill one for scaring the hell outta me.

 

i thought i was in hippie-land

First the quote was a mistake in posting.i meant to break the post in two.i think that is quite apparent.Not a big deal .Using the term'forked tongue"is a racist act in itself,so i really can't take you seriously.peace

 

If indeed it was a "Mistake" you should have corrected it when you saw it.

Don't come in here starting no hassles Gate. We have been trying to be fair with you. If you want to contenue to post in The Garden you had better take Rangers warning seriously.
My previous dealings with you lead me to belive you just come to heckle.
sh
sh

 

i take it all seriously and have corrected the post.i can't help it if you disagree with me.The name of this post was "leave your guns at the door",yet it is about killing needlessly.Is it wrong to argue anti-violence on a hippie site?Was it wrong for us to "heckle" viet namn or nixon? Did Rosa Parks(bless her soul)heckle a bus driver?Martin Luther heckled a govenor.While not trying to put myself on the same plane as these two i contend protest,not"heckling", is a hippie tradition and i stand by my right to do so.peace

 

Me and Lynn (hubby) went frog gigin' one night a few years ago. We we hittin' all the ponds in the area for Bull Frogs. We came across this swampy pond deep in the Piney Woods of East Texas. We had to cut through the brier vines with a machette to get to it. It's was very erie out there under the full moon esp with that ole' hoot owl with his accussing hooty hoots in the distance.
I stood holding the big flashlight and Lynn manned the gig. He got em' a big one with fat juicy legs and I was shinning the light on the catch, when out of nowhere several cotton mouths strated slithering across the pond and started going up the frog gig. Things got real hairy as Lynn tried to shake them off the gig. I began to look around and realized we were in the middle of a nest of them. They were everywhere, they were hanging out of the trees over our heads, they were slithering all over the ground towards us. I was terrified, Lynn looked over to me and said "Let's Bail" so we both musta jumped five feet backwards and over the briers, bc the next thing I knew we were hauling ass through the woods back up to the truck.
Lynn is a country boy and he's been trippin' through these woods all his life and he said he had never ever seen anything like what we saw at that pond. Them snakes meant to do us in. We had invaded their space and were fair game to them.
We respected them and left them to it. I can only ask the same from them. As they do not use us for food or warmth, and just kill us because we scared them is not justified either.
Posionous snakes are fine in their enviroment, but not in mine. I don't want to pick up a six foot cottonmouth and move it politly over as I walk across my yard, or my babies to come across one as they are palying on the swingset. If a person was trying to harm my babies I would kill them dead, no less for a snake or any preditorial advessary.
It's not just protecting my family either, we have a responsiblity to protect our livestock also. It cost hundreds of $ to get a vet to come out and save your 6,000$ stud, or your milk goats. And them snakes don't just have one off spring, they can produce thirty or forty babies a year. There is never just one snake there are always more. I'd rather live with the mice population then with the snake population.
My daughter found snakes in her bed before, not once but twice (shudder). They were tree snakes, they fell on the roof and crawled into the attic vents and into her upstairs room. They were not posionis, but frightening none the less.
sh

 

FYI Alert!!! I would like to clarify the sign on the door. Leave Your Guns At The Door. This was not meaning to put up your guns per se', it means to leave bad attitudes outside, to be respectful and not to start trouble. There is no need to "Bring out the guns" in a peaceful assembly. Guns, Posion Arrows, Snide remarks, picking on personalities or beliefs are " Bringing in Guns" This is what I meant.
sh

 

I live no Fantacy, I live with nature, it's all very real to me. We walk the walk here, it aint no bullshit..we eat what we catch, we use the skins, that goes for the snakeskins too. There is no violence in what we do or how we live. Hunting for food is not violence but survival. Would you denigh us our food. Would you have our children go hungry. How hip is that. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, that's the way it is.
sh

 

sloth outta here

 

Hi Carol, nice to see you,
This life is not an easy one but it most deffenatly is a better one then city life. I've had both and I choose country. Lynn has never lived in the city ever, we live three miles from where he was born on his mama's kitchen table. He has alway been a farmer and hunted/fished for his meat. I was born in Dallas and mover the SoCali when I was eight. I traveled around for a while, hitchhicking here and there. When my parents retired they moved back to Texas, but not to Dallas. They moved to.. yes, the boon docks in 72, I went to join them in 75 and have been here (mostly) ever since. I did travel back and forth to The Haight a few times, but it had lost it's magic. I found the magic again when I met Lynn in 78' and we been together ever since. I couldn't ask for a better life then the one which I lead now. We are 100 miles East of Dallas os the crow flys.

Voided, I can dig a plate of them right now.. But I think my gigin' daze are over so I'll have to eat chicken and pretend it's frog legs.
Don't get me wrong I am a veggie freek also. I LOVE LOVE LOVE fresh veggies, all of them. There isn't much I don't like as long as it is cooked well. We're having wild hog backstrap for supper tonight, chicken fried. with gravy, biscuts, fried okra and fried squwash.
We camp out quite a bit at the Lake when the weather allows, that's when we catch our fish for winter and freeze it. We have huge fish frys and everybody that was at the camp comes over and we eat the fish as we caught it, together. We fish practicaly every weekend and sometimes for a couple of weeks if the fish are biting.

Brightest Blessings everyone and have a glorious Sam Hain.
SH

 

To Gate68: Just how in the hell can the term "speaks with forked tongue" possibly be considered "racist"? It refers to snakes, especially the serpent that lied to Eve. Pretend I'm not here from now on.