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According to the Bible it would seem that the only reason for Adam and Eve to die was the eating the "forbidden" fruit. So it appears that Adam and Eve were designed to live forever. Seeing as the people that lived 900 years where closer to the perfection that Adam and Eve once had, their life force could been greater and thus lived longer and as mankind has gotten farther from that perfection their life span has gotten shorter.

 

A little leaven ferments the whole lump.

 

The term “day” is various lengths in the Bible, from 12 hours to over 6000 years.

Paul points out in Hebrews that the last creative day, God’s day of rest, was still going on 4000 years after it began and that day is still going on today. So that would make that last creative day at least 6000 years long and it would seem reasonable that all the creative days were the same length. Thus those 6 “days” would have been at least 36,000 years.

As for; “then how long dose it say from creation to the birth of jesus christ”, it was approximately 4000 years.

The trouble with these pages of “inconsistencies” is that who ever came up with these things have not bothered to see if they are actually inconsistencies. They’re just hoping that by the sheer number of them that people will be so intimidated they will not bother to look them and see how little substance there are to them. The sad thing is they’re right, most people don't bother to to look them up and just believe the Bible is full of inconsistencies.

 

According to some electricians I recently hired, it is "Fucking". :cuss:
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Oh really?

Then why is it a fact that as time goes on, peoples life spans increase?

And you really believe that Adam and Eve story huh?

I need to open up a car dealership in a Christian neighborhood. Y'all truly do believe anything.

 

Make sure you put a fish symbol on the sign.

 

If you look into it peoples life spans have not been increasing. Individuals do not live much living than they have in the last 1000 years. What you are referring to is that more people live closer to the end of that life span than use to. In other words no one is living much over 100 years, it is just that more people are doing it, thus the average life span appears to be increasing.

Why not? It answers a lot of questions such as; Why we grow old and die?

At this point you would be foolish to do so since many of them are going bankrupt. And no, true Christians do not believe anything.

 

Why, is he a pagan?

 

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More people living to be older is not a sign of life spans increasing?

And what reason do you have to believe Adam and Eve other than it's in the Bible? Shit's obviously a fairy tale.

And LMAO @ you believing people lived to be almost 1000 and the reason we die is because some snake was able to g the first woman into eating forbidden apples, THEN saying Christians don't believe everything.

 

We’re talking statistics. Take a 100 people and one lives to 100 and the rest only live to 50 the max life span is about 100 but the average life span is about 50 years. Now take other 100 people and all of them live to 100 the max life remains 100 but now the average life span is 100. The max life span is not going up but the average life span has gone up. All that more people living to be older proves is that less people are dying younger not that the max span is getting longer.

Being in the Bible is a pretty good reason to believe it.

Obviously a fairy tale? Why, don’t you think God has the power to have people live as long as he wants?

Okay, I believe you said that your entire life is dedicated to God, has he gotten around to telling you why people grow old and die? Has he let you know why he has permitted wickedness all these years? Just wondering?

 

You seem to not realize God didn't write the Bible, man did.

Following a religion is simply taking the next mans beliefs and making it your own. God doesn't speak to you, your imagination just translates the Bible to you. God told you Noah's Ark really happened? Please say yes because common sense damn sure wouldn't tell you it did.

And yes, God revealed to me that to live is to suffer. If I want to stop suffering, I have to end the cycle of living. What did God tell you? That once upon a time ago He let people live to be 1000 years, then changed His mind because that was too long?

And the first person that lived to be 100 wasn't even born until the late 19th century dude. What are you even talking about right now? She just died 2 years ago. Where do you get your facts from? You just sound like some Bible enthusiast tossing his opinion all over the place with your main source of information being a book you have no reason to believe other than because you want it to be true.

 

You don’t seem to realize he did write it.

No it wasn’t common sense that told me, it was God and I trust him more than common sense. Common sense is not always true, God is, following common sense can get you killed.

My God has told me that death is the last enemy and that soon it’ll be done away with. Your God has told you that you’ll be better off dead. I hope you won’t mind if I choose life over death.

The first person that lived to be 100 wasn't even born until the late 19th century?

While the density of centenarians per capita was much less in ancient times than today, the data suggest that reaching the age of 100 was not impossible then.

Diogenes Laertius (c. 250) gives the earliest (or at least one of the earliest) references about (plausible centenarian) longevity given by a scientist, the astronomer Hipparchus of Nicea (c. 185 – c. 120 B.C.), who, according to the doxographer, assured that the philosopher Democritus of Abdera (c. 470/460 – c. 370/360 B.C.) lived 109 years. All other accounts about Democritus given by the ancients appear to agree in the fact that the philosopher lived over 100 years. Such longevity would not be dramatically out of line with that of other ancient Greek philosophers thought to have lived beyond the age of 90 (e.g.: Xenophanes of Colophon, c. 570/565 – c. 475/470 B.C.; Pyrrho of Ellis, c. 360 - c. 270 B.C.; Eratosthenes of Cirene c. 285 – c. 190 B.C., etc.). The case of Democritus differs from the case of, for example, Epimenides of Crete (VII, VI centuries B.C.) who is said to have lived an implausible 154, 157 or 290 years, depending on the source.

The sixth dynasty Egyptian ruler Pepi II is believed by some Egyptologists to have lived to the age of 100 or more (c. 2278 BC - c. 2184 BC), as he ruled for 94 years.[9] However this is under dispute, as others claim the date should actually be 64 years.[10]

The Indian Sufi poet, Kabir (1398-1518?) is believed by some to have lived to an unnatural age of 120 while others believe that he lived for no more than 80 years.

Ultimately, there is no reason to believe that there could not have been a few individuals who were centenarians 2500 years ago, even if they were not commonplace.[11]

Hosius of Córdoba, the man who convinced Constantine the Great to call the First Council of Nicaea, reportedly lived to age 102.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centenarian

Where do you get your “facts” from?

 

LMAO you just posted maybes vs my FACT. Scientists say MAYBE there was a possibility people lived to be 100+ but it is a FACT that the earliest person actually KNOWN to live to be 100 wasn't born until 1875. LMAO x2 @ you ending your post with a damn Wikipedia entry. Absolutely no part of your argument has any basis in fact. You want the Bible to be true so you tell yourself God told you it is. It's a fuckin book of fables that were passed down from generation to generation until one day people decided to start recording it. At least that's what my Catholic school religion teacher told us in 11th grade.

If that's false, when and how exactly did God write the Bible?

When did God tell you Noah's Ark really happened?

You may wanna stay away from Wikipedia where literally anyone can make an entry saying whatever they want about whatever they want.

And to live on Earth is to suffer. In order to end suffering, you must break the cycle. When that happens, you become one with God and remain in a state of eternal bliss. I dunno who said anything about dying but ok. The way I see it, nothing is ever born and nothing ever dies.

 

I see, if it didn’t happened in the last 100 years then it’s not fact, only a maybe. Well, I can see then why you believe the way you do.

Also your “authority” on the Bible is a 11th grade religion teacher? And you take that over Wikipedia? Interesting, once again I see why you believe the way you do.

God authored the Bible over a 1500 year period and god used men as secretaries to write it down.

If a friend wrote you a letter and told you something happened, would you have to wait until he told you in person, before you would say you'd been told?

Interestingly Wikipedia generally has footnotes that can be looked up in other references, did your 11th grade teacher?

And how do you intend on “breaking” this cycle of suffering and life so you can become one with God? It seems from what I’ve read that involves a “death” to this “life”. And how did you come up with this, did it involve reading something or someone telling you or did God whisper it in your ear?

 

just wondering JQ but how do you feel on people whos demons in them(at least thats what thier families claim)? like theirs many case in Mexico and south of it til Central America where people are all good mentally but then mess around with witchcraft and become possessed? and start talking in tongues?

 

Sir Issac Newton lived to 84. The average lifespan during that time was around 35-50 years old.

Interestingly, Newton studied the Bible daily and used it to give himself a better understanding of reality. He would pit his theories against the Bible to try to prove the Bible wrong, but found that he couldn't. He ended up studying the Bible more than he did science.

 

That happened over a hundred years ago, so I'm going to guess that J.Q. is going to put that down as a maybe.

 

You didn't answer any my questions with anything other than random questions about "if" this and "if" that. What does some imaginary letter have to do with any of this? And I think you may have a hard time reading. My RELIGION teacher in my CATHOLIC SCHOOL. Blue Ribbon at that, maybe you should research what that means.

Not everything in Wikipedia is false, but being that ANYONE can put an entry in Wikipedia, it is not a reliable source. My RELIGION teacher used the same exact source as you throughout his teaching, the Bible. And where did I say anything about if it didn't happen 100 years ago it isn't a fact? That same Wikipedia article you posted has no FACTS, just GUESSES.

And yes, God speaks to me directly. I do a lot of reading as well as watching certain documentaries. I take whatever Truth I can get out of it and discard the rest, the same exact thing I do with the Bible. You Christians see things in the Bible that make perfect sense and use that as a basis to believe people used to live to be 1000 years old and dinosaurs apparently have no place in the story of creation. I personally only align myself with what I can verify. There are certain things I have yet to experience that I still hold beliefs in due to certain consistencies.

Wait a minute, doesn't your religion tell you to FEAR God?

 

I personally have only known of people influenced by religion to claim contact with demons. Unless there's a bunch of agnostic people claiming demonic experiences that I don't know about, I'd say they are a persons mind playing tricks on them. Could be wrong but that's just my take on it.