Jerking Off Is Murder!

Basing human rights on capabilities, rather than intrinsic qualities, is a ghastly proposition that has led to some very horrific results. It was the underlying premise of the German euthanasia program, which began before Hitler.

 

Jerking off is murder through a conservative perspective.

 

actually, it is a sacrifice. It is a sacred and holy ritual.

 

you read my mind.

that and be against the death penalty.l

 

You're comparing abortion to what happened in Nazi Germany? Good lord, give me a break.

Animals have thoughts, feelings, and reaction...and you eat meat. Don't lecture me on anti-abortion propoganda.

 

oh no! i did NOT mean to quote huck fin and respond with "you read my mind"

no no no.....i meant to quote dancer annie

 

my dog and cat have more emotions, intellect and a developed life than any 7 week old fetus. if you eat meat you are not pro life.....you are pro human life ONLY. which really makes no fucking sense anyway but then this world is full of bullshit........and ironically enough none of that bullshit is produced by "other" animals (war, enviormental destruction, etc) im not intending to start a veg debate here...im done i just wanted to state my peace

 

Some animals eat their babies..

A wank is a wank

 

I'm surprised this thread made it 3 pages before starting to unravel with idiocy!

 

I found that on the first page when you posted

 

this has made me sad. im just gonna say that huckfinn isn't the only one in here who feels the way he does.

and...ive never thought of it the way ya'll have...but just for the record i am a vegetarian and have been 4 1/2 years....way before i decided about the way i do on abortion.
oh, and i do think its ok when a woman gets an abortion when the baby is endangering her life and the woman has made every attempt to have a healthy pregnancy

 

Actually,according to the Old Testament..jacking off is a sin because it wastes seed.

So the Xtian prolifers,by all logic, should be condemning the worldwide spillage of sperm that occurs everyday since they also use the Old Testament to condemn gay people.

Quit being so half-assed,christians.

 

that has more to do with duty and doing what God told the guy to... it was his duty to wed his brother's widow and get her pregnant, but he couldn't, he pulled out at hte last moment and didn't fulfill his duty. THAT was the problem, not doing what you're supposed to, not jerking off (and I'm not even Christian and I know this, yeesh). Yes, some branches of hte church have interpreted it to be that masturbation is wrong, but that likely wasn't the intent of the story.

 

Eating meat is NOT the same as killing the animal, itself. In point of fact, anyone who eats even only vegetables is still ingesting organic material which was derived from an animal, at some point in time. Everything feeds everything else. that is the way the cycle works - no one is completely innocent.

Everyone is party to killing in one form or another - why are we so concerned with who did what? Perhaps it is only our actions concerning the QUALITY of the lives of others should matter - and even THAT is really ambiguous. Everyone suffers, so to bring a life which is capable of perceiving suffering into this world is to be a party to increasing the suffering in the world. By that logic, abortions are the MERCIFUL thing to do. Try that one on for size, eh?

In any case - just because some authority figure has told you that abortion (or masturbation, or periods, or eating meat, what-you-will) destroys a life doesn't make it so. In fact, direct observation of the physical workings of our universe seems to directly contradict this idea. Everything we've learned about life in this universe shows us a cycle of life-death-rebirth - the laws of physics tell us that NOTHING can be truly created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. It's far more likely any aborted soul (if they have them, to begin with - and who is to say when a blastula gains/grows a soul, eh?) will simply return later, in a different body. No problem. For all we know, there is only one soul moving back and forth in time living each and every life in the universe in an endless quest for experience.

This may or may not be so, but it is as plausible as anything else I've read or heard. You won't know for sure til you are dead, so why worry about it now?

 

Ah fuck it --I'm gonna kill a few thousand of those little shits right now!

 

According to HuckFinn, only HUMAN LIVES are REAL LIVES.

And only those which are "potential" humans after the sperm has made contact with the egg. See, here's the point. The Conservative screams "LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION" and when you clearly refute that, they scream, "HUMAN LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION", yet these "lives" are not yet "developed" and are "potential" humans. Thus, by this philosophy, the sperm is a "potential" human, just hasn't attached to the egg yet to create another building block to human existence. But, no Huck wants us to disregard the sperm's life-- PRO-LIFE, my ass.

 

im definitely not conservative yet i'd never have an abortion, and don't necessarily approve with the whole concept. however, theres a reason for everything. and the laws against abortion make sense to me, but not to other people. so i dont think its necessarily helpful to people to have to go around the law and risk infections and disease getting an abortion somewhere that may not be the cleanest of places.
obviously, this is not something that one side or the other is going to win . basically all people can do is state their opinion and not expect that its going to change the opinion of someone else. its nothing to argue about if its not going to be resolved.

 

I wouldn't get an abortion myself, but that's my CHOICE. HENCE, I'm pro-CHOICE. What others do with their bodies is not my (or anyone else's) responsibility to dictate.

I don't believe anyone, including myself, sits here and says "LET'S KILL ALL FETUSES". What we are saying is, if a woman wants to do this to HER body, she should have the right to. I think it's a common misconception PRO-CHOICE does not mean ANTI-LIFE.

 

apparently you missed my point.

im not for abortion...or laws against it...thats y i mentioned people going around the law and getting unsafe abortions when theyre illegal...