Japan Disaster! Hit By 9.0 Earthquake, Huge Tsunami, Nukes Meltdown

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  1. willedwill

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    I'm sadist at the lost plutonium reactant assuming the nuclear chemistry of the Japanese scientists is as brilliant as it seems to be. In Chernobyl it had melted down, but this is supposed to be a partial meltdown. A...humm. Being mime at good will.
     
  2. relaxxx

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    For the cost of the Iraq war, the US could have built enough wind turbines to power every home in America. It is MORE than possible to power the entire world on solar and wind. It's just not a popular solution YET because it's not as cheap and easy as fossil fuels at this time.

    Solar and wind power could be used to generate hydrogen or other types of energy storage in times of surplus energy to be used for vehicles and when energy production is low. Hydrogen storage might be dangerous but an explosion is not going to radiate the land and make it uninhabitable for 10 thousand years.
     
  3. ThePepsiSyndrome

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    When I see a solar cell manufacturing plant powered %100 from solar cells or a wind turbine factory completely run by the electricity from other wind turbines, then I will believe we can abandon nuclear and fossil fuels.

    How long would it take a single wind turbine to produce enough electricity to make a copy of itself?
     
  4. Oz!

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    about eight months...... nuclear and coal take about six so are still cheaper... the cost of solar panels slightly worse, tho an average sized house should recover it's money in about a decade, which is the average life expectancy of domestic solar panels... but still, cutting even with no pollution and without being tied to buying from an energy corporation, it's a good option

    of course the advantage of wind turbines is that they go on at the same rate indefinitely... give or take replacing bearings every century or so...
     
  5. thedope

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    And when climate change disrupts prevailing wind patterns?
     
  6. willedwill

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    I dunno, and it may (physically) be an unexpected cold spring.
     
  7. Oz!

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    is climate change likely to stop the wind?

    i guess that's when we flick the switch and use the power created by the tides instead ... that should work till the moon falls out the sky
     
  8. scratcho

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    Long term,wind and solar WILL be used. The problem I see is the fact that our entire society is dependant on backwards middle eastern countries providing the means by which almost all our vehicles,factories,shipping flying,ect is done. Imagine if/when the oil is just cut off sooner rather than later. Like 6 months from now. If our auto manufacturing companies weren't in such collusion with the oil companies and the oil companies in collusion with the politicians---they would/could begin immediately to produce small cars with diesel engines in concert with farmers growing huge tracts of hemp,safflour or other veggie oils and we could stop using petroleum in a hurry ,plus take care of huge amounts of polution. This will never happen until a crisis comes and until most of the arrable land is in control of the same ones that have control now. As usual,the masses will be suckin' hind tit again.
     
  9. thedope

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    There are models of ocean currents collapsing. Climate change is not likely to stop the wind, but climate change could render a stationary wind farm, less than reliable because of changing patterns of circulation.
     
  10. scratcho

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    Wheels. Never mind.
     
  11. Oz!

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    so in real terms energy we can get from the earth is only temporarily available anyway

    interesting

    don't really know enough about climate change and it's effect on the tides and wind patterns to comment any further, sorry
     
  12. scratcho

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    Some people have complained about birds flying into those huge turbine blades. There's an easy fix for that and I can't believe it would take a dumb-ass roofer like me to see the fix. Goes to show ya'.
     
  13. thedope

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    The earth is temporary.
     
  14. sunfighter

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    Even setting aside the safety issues, nuclear is the most expensive way to add power to the grid. If it wasn't for all the subsidies, the nuclear industry would have died long ago.

    Graph of cost of adding power to the grid.
     
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    The core is the part that really matters...
     
  16. zocipro

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    what to say...like at horror movie..was terrible even just from videos we saw it...

    WE ARE ALL WITH YOU!!!
     
  17. skip

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  18. SpacemanSpiff

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    these videos coming out make 9/11 ..banda acheh tsunami and hurricane katrina look like such minor events
     
  19. ThePepsiSyndrome

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    I live approximately under the "D" in "MD".

    Gives me a warm feeling.
     
  20. Justin_Hale

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    I've got three 'Combustion Engineering' pressurized water reactors about a 45 min. drive from me. Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station.

    Joy.
     

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